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United States5003 Posts
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MrProb
Thailand794 Posts
On June 02 2011 13:21 d(O.o)a wrote: No, it's how do you play as a WW barb then ? no armor no accessories... thats like impossible you'll basically get one hit from ... lets say summoner with negative resistances | ||
sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On June 02 2011 13:26 Barrin wrote: I'll admit we've moved on to a bit of a tangent, but to be perfectly honest the heart of the D2 discussion on the past few pages has a heavy relevant context to D3. I know but it's rapidly veering offtopic | ||
MrProb
Thailand794 Posts
actually its not off topic, they kinda related to "how do we want the D3 gameplay to be" we are discussing about gameplay in d2 which was kinda poorly made and get abused by powerplay/bots then ppl started complaining it was "too easy" | ||
Ximeng
China57 Posts
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gosublade
632 Posts
On June 02 2011 13:59 Ximeng wrote: Move your D2 discussion to the D2 thread please. I come here for D3 news. Then start writing about D3 and stop whining pls | ||
blubshizzle
Netherlands34 Posts
If i would 24/7 bot d2 and sell all items. I can trade these for fg(forum gold). And buy anything in d3. So basicly what this means is: Whenever i find a d3 item i am going to trade this with some wow gold or some shitty crap enigma from d2 or just something i want from d3. This basicly means you can better play d2 to get easier, faster and better items at d3. How is this a good thing? What can be exploited will be exploited. A concept like this will always ruin a new game economy. And stop saying we have to get used to it. I have never traded in d2jsp and always played the game my way. Just stop using d2jsp and see how it ruins anything that is remotely trying to create an ingame economy on its own. I know d2 has a bad ingame economy. But in the very beginning we just traded what we need for something they need. I´m not saying i want back to that old weird way but just keep the system within the game. Give me a good reason why i should use d2jsp and why it works so well for d3. Consider i don´t want to play or trade with wow, d2 or any other game. | ||
gosublade
632 Posts
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woowoo
France164 Posts
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crabz
227 Posts
On June 02 2011 16:44 gosublade wrote: Best part about pvp in D3 will be that fight no longer last <0.3 sec... lol what? if anything pvp in d2 suffered from defwhoring, short duels were never a problem, so far i dont like what i see in d3 pvp system | ||
gosublade
632 Posts
On June 02 2011 20:27 crabz wrote: lol what? if anything pvp in d2 suffered from defwhoring, short duels were never a problem, so far i dont like what i see in d3 pvp system I don't know what game you were playing but if one player started taking dam, one of the players was dead by the end of 3rd second at the latest | ||
Mangemongen
Sweden125 Posts
On June 01 2011 19:50 gosublade wrote: I feel like sound effects and overall audio is one of the most important core parts of a good game. Almost all good games have exceptional sound quality. BW, D1 and D2 had it, its lacking a bit in SC2 imo. But what I've seen so far about D3, the sound feels badass Sound plays a way bigger role than graphics, I think this is actually true for most people, they just don't know it. | ||
crabz
227 Posts
On June 02 2011 20:31 gosublade wrote: I don't know what game you were playing but if one player started taking dam, one of the players was dead by the end of 3rd second at the latest i dont know on what level were u playing but pvp in d2 was damn fine, maybe with few balance issues but those could be solved by setting rules, if thats too short then i dont know how to help you | ||
Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + That said, I have honed some certain skills that aren't really too hard to come by if you actually play the game (it's people that actually play the game that are hard to come by). The big thing here is knowing how to level fast (because higher level people become richer faster). Leveling fast obviously takes the ability to just be able to move from monster to monster quickly and efficiently (like killing shamans first in act1). It requires knowing which skills to use (and when) and what items to go for for your build. It requires proper and quick inventory maintenance which can eventually shave off hours of wasted play time. The trickiest and probably least known thing about leveling fast (legitly) is knowing which games to join and when to leave your current game, which is a bit of a guessing game (in some senses akin to playing poker) - this is tied in to rushing yourself through the acts to do the baal runs. I do not claim to have any difficult talents in the leveling department (other than maybe knowing when to leave current game and knowing how to find a better one). So great, we're high level now. We happen to be a sorceress with very crappy mediocre gear, and the best thing for us to do is moat trick farm Mephisto until we get our shako/occy/travs/nagels/goldwrap/chancies/etc. First off you can have some crappy mediocre gear and still teleport through most of hell just fine WITHOUT A MAPHACK if you have the right mods on your crappy gear. You really need these mods and pretty much only these mods: faster cast rate, faster hit recovery, life, resists. In pretty much that order too (most people overlook faster hit recovery, a fatal mistake). There's different degrees of teleporting: you can teleport all the way to the corner of your screen which is really risky and might make you die, or you can play it safe and only teleport to just within the edge of your light radius. With experience you will know when you can be risky (edge of screen blind teleporting) and when you can't be. And then there's the skill of knowing how to find the entrance to the next dungeon without a maphack. Once you have teleported to Catacombs Level 4, or Durance of Hate Level 3, or Throne of Destruction hundreds of times you start to subconsciously gravitate towards the right area a lot of the time. Personally, I bet I would win some sort of legit mephisto teleporting triple elimination tournament against 31 other random players 9 times out of 10. Great. We've farmed Mephisto for a while, and now we have some decent items for trade. There used to be a time when there was no such thing as currency (a time where I thrived). If you really knew what you were doing, you would become extremely intimate with the market value of every item. "Buy low, sell high". In a lot of other games this is almost a waste of time, but not so in D2 (even current day). There are a lot of dumb people out there who have good items and do not know what they're worth, so they're willing to let them go at a fraction of what they're worth. There is a certain skill in being able to find these people, and yet another skill to be able to convince them to trade with you while also making them think they're getting a good deal. I'm pretty good at this stuff (used to be a lot better), but my brother is like the fucking master at it. It was far from uncommon that he would take a single item worth very little and a few hours later have an item worth 20 or more times that item AND another two of the items (and then repeat with higher value items). Even in these d2jsp days he has taken an item worth ~40fg and traded it for an item worth 400+fg. Several if not dozens of times. In the past four ladder resets I have reached the top 10 on the overall ladder by the 20-30 hour mark (and thats with taking a good night's sleep and some time to prepare food etc AFTER the reset). And then only to be overtaken by legions of sorceress/hammerdin bots because people are beginning to set them up. Anyways, I won't really have the much of the "spare time" half of the equation when D3 hits. Oh well. I'm not sure what you really want from me. You think I'm going to give you all of my secrets, or you never really tried to play the game the way it was supposed to be played? You can believe what you want. And please, for the love of all things good, don't make posts like this. I'm almost saddened. The game is NOT difficult by any stretch of the imagination, and deluding yourself that you have top 100 sorc teleporting skill is about the saddest thing I've ever read. That comes from mindlessly playing the same thing about 5000 times, not from skill. Anyone can do that if they have 12 hours a day to spend doing Baal runs. Back to D3....All I hope for is no map-hacks, no bots, and a mildly interesting PvP. Heck, if they could remove every bot and map-hack permanently, and balance D2 pvp, I think I'd go back to playing it. But D2 isn't fun when everyone can have the same ridiculously high level gear due to some guy running 800 bots that can do Baal runs in 15 minutes, and selling the proceeds. | ||
gosublade
632 Posts
On June 02 2011 20:57 crabz wrote: i dont know on what level were u playing but pvp in d2 was damn fine, maybe with few balance issues but those could be solved by setting rules, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej1v5BWab6U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL7Q186h89Y if thats too short then i dont know how to help you bowazon, foh pala, ww assa.... are you trolling or do you have a mental handicap? I'll bring an example from Counter Strike, the fps game. There, if you see an enemy at modest range, and you both are out in the open: a)For first-timers, the battle might last for 1 minute or until one runs out of bullets b)If player who have played the game for 7+ years, the battle lasts for 2 seconds at best. The example you brought is some pve geared noobs fighting for fun and for that, your argument is invalid What I meant was pvp between players who are geared for pvp and actually know what they are doing | ||
crabz
227 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:02 crabz wrote: those are top non ladder duelers (ladder is a joke) using close to perfect equipement and char builds/item setups developed after years of testing . now fade away u clueless vermin i wont even bother to answer your next posts because u seem to be completly clueless in that subject You're taking Diablo 2 pvp WWWWAAAAYYYYYYY too seriously. I almost spit out my coffee I laughed so hard. | ||
gosublade
632 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:02 crabz wrote: those are top non ladder duelers (ladder is a joke) using close to perfect equipement and char builds/item setups developed after years of testing . now fade away u clueless vermin i wont even bother to answer your next posts because u seem to be completly clueless in that subject Please don't, people may take you seriously | ||
EternalSC
Sweden313 Posts
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gosublade
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