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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 00:46:30
June 02 2011 00:28 GMT
#1621
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 00:52:07
June 02 2011 00:46 GMT
#1622
On June 02 2011 09:22 MrProb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.


oh my bad ... sry about my english lol

i meant sell/buy in game stuff from a player with rl cash, like on ebay or w/e.

for example : buying 2 sojs from a friend of ur for $5 or something like that not cash shop cuz thats even worse than jsp lol


Your English was fine. I don't understand how you think buying/selling for real life money (even from friends) is any more legitimate than trading my WoW gold for your diablo 2 items since I want to play WoW and you want to play diablo 2. We have assets from our previous venture that we no longer have use for so we're passing them along to somebody who wants to use them and getting assets for a game we want to play in return. We're helping each other get what we want and nothing is really lost in the process. You have some double standard going on that I don't understand.

@Barrin
I do think the bots flooding the market with things is completely absurd which is why I've been playing RoS and other mods instead of the actual game for a very long time. I played hardcore back in the day and was at the top of the ladder after each reset for a few seasons doing those fail hell baal runs. Of course, back then I played a sorc and we didn't have synergies so I could solo everything ^_^

Say diablo 3 is released and I get some super awesome rare (or more likely unique) that has fcr fhr life and resist all as mods. I decide that I want to sell it on d2jsp and use the forum gold to purchase a full set of less good items with my profits. How does this affect your gameplay in any manner?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 02 2011 00:53 GMT
#1623
How do you guys think d2jsp is not going to be a factor in d3? Is there actually a legal issue blizzard can use to shut it down? Because if not then no ingame trading scenario can possibly be good enough to make it obsolete.

1. Fg is accepted in every major online game.
2. Fg is secure and remains yours even through resets, bannings, and other ingame events.

People ARE going to be using d2jsp, from day one, so there's really nothing you can do but get used to it.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 02 2011 00:55 GMT
#1624
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.
Hi.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 02 2011 01:14 GMT
#1625
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.


PvE is "hard" imo, back when they were no bots around ( when i was still playing ) noone messes with Baal run, only a few group of geared ppl do it ( this is in HC not SC ) and every now and then a few ppl kept dying in set up Baal run.

Back then, items like Tal'Rasha Armor or some other Elite uniques are almost not existed bcuz the game was kinda hard w/o propered set up party.
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
June 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#1626
On June 02 2011 09:53 sob3k wrote:
How do you guys think d2jsp is not going to be a factor in d3? Is there actually a legal issue blizzard can use to shut it down? Because if not then no ingame trading scenario can possibly be good enough to make it obsolete.

1. Fg is accepted in every major online game.
2. Fg is secure and remains yours even through resets, bannings, and other ingame events.

People ARE going to be using d2jsp, from day one, so there's really nothing you can do but get used to it.


I just did a quick google on it but.. it's just botting? Of course Blizzard can shut it down legally.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 02 2011 01:44 GMT
#1627
On June 02 2011 10:28 AndyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:53 sob3k wrote:
How do you guys think d2jsp is not going to be a factor in d3? Is there actually a legal issue blizzard can use to shut it down? Because if not then no ingame trading scenario can possibly be good enough to make it obsolete.

1. Fg is accepted in every major online game.
2. Fg is secure and remains yours even through resets, bannings, and other ingame events.

People ARE going to be using d2jsp, from day one, so there's really nothing you can do but get used to it.


I just did a quick google on it but.. it's just botting? Of course Blizzard can shut it down legally.

No, d2jsp is a multigaming forum that has it's own currency (forum gold/fg). Members trade ingame goods and services for this currency, which is then accepted in a large variety of games. In concept this has nothing at all to do with botting, but in practice it attracts a large hacking community due to the fact that any profits they earn ingame can be "safed" in forum gold which cannot be confiscated by game admins in case of a ban. When disciplinary action is taken against them they simply use some of their stored fg to restart their operation and continue like nothing has happened. It's like muling stolen items on a safe character, except the character is completely untouchable. You can even purchase the full game or cdkeys and real life goods with fg.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
RivalryRedux
Profile Joined July 2009
United States173 Posts
June 02 2011 01:52 GMT
#1628
On June 02 2011 09:53 sob3k wrote:
How do you guys think d2jsp is not going to be a factor in d3? Is there actually a legal issue blizzard can use to shut it down? Because if not then no ingame trading scenario can possibly be good enough to make it obsolete.

1. Fg is accepted in every major online game.
2. Fg is secure and remains yours even through resets, bannings, and other ingame events.

People ARE going to be using d2jsp, from day one, so there's really nothing you can do but get used to it.


I think how much of a factor it is will depend on if blizzard keeps the ladder/non ladder system (didn't see anything on google). I just took a look at the WoW trading section and there is a whopping ELEVEN people browsing the trading sections. Game to game wealth transfer on it's own isn't enough to retain d2jsps presence as it's greatest conveniences are avoiding the in game trading and non-ladder to ladder trading.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#1629
On June 02 2011 10:52 RivalryRedux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:53 sob3k wrote:
How do you guys think d2jsp is not going to be a factor in d3? Is there actually a legal issue blizzard can use to shut it down? Because if not then no ingame trading scenario can possibly be good enough to make it obsolete.

1. Fg is accepted in every major online game.
2. Fg is secure and remains yours even through resets, bannings, and other ingame events.

People ARE going to be using d2jsp, from day one, so there's really nothing you can do but get used to it.


I think how much of a factor it is will depend on if blizzard keeps the ladder/non ladder system (didn't see anything on google). I just took a look at the WoW trading section and there is a whopping ELEVEN people browsing the trading sections. Game to game wealth transfer on it's own isn't enough to retain d2jsps presence as it's greatest conveniences are avoiding the in game trading and non-ladder to ladder trading.


And real life trading, also please remember that when you're buying/selling wow gold you don't browse the forum for hours like you would with diablo2 trading/teamliquid. You search for your server and pm the person or post in their thread.

On real life trading, in the donor forum people trade real life things for forum gold, including cars, video games, consoles, computers and much much more.

Hi.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 03:37:47
June 02 2011 03:36 GMT
#1630
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MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 02 2011 03:47 GMT
#1631
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 04:03:22
June 02 2011 04:01 GMT
#1632
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


I was talking about on hell difficulty, not normal and nm....
On June 02 2011 12:47 MrProb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...


Are you joking? I've participated in no-armor walkthroughs on hc and made it to hell, I've done complete walkthroughs of the entire game with friends on hc, This game is NOT hard, keep thinking that though...
Hi.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
June 02 2011 04:11 GMT
#1633
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MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 02 2011 04:13 GMT
#1634
On June 02 2011 13:01 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


I was talking about on hell difficulty, not normal and nm....
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 12:47 MrProb wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...


Are you joking? I've participated in no-armor walkthroughs on hc and made it to hell, I've done complete walkthroughs of the entire game with friends on hc, This game is NOT hard, keep thinking that though...


i'm saying its hard in general/overall

some ppl preferred party play while some, like me, preferred solo in 8ppl game unless i have to party.

and not everyone can do what u did, there are newbs out there who doesnt know shiet about the game or even starters who doesnt know much about game mechanic or a proper way to play.

and yes i know about no armor walkthrough on hc. actually, i've only heard about it. whats the detail on it tho ? a party of 8ppl completely naked leading by necromancer?
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 04:16:36
June 02 2011 04:16 GMT
#1635
On June 02 2011 13:11 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 13:01 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


I was talking about on hell difficulty, not normal and nm....

Me too...

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 13:01 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:47 MrProb wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...


Are you joking? I've participated in no-armor walkthroughs on hc and made it to hell, I've done complete walkthroughs of the entire game with friends on hc, This game is NOT hard, keep thinking that though...

Yeah I don't really agree with that guy about act1 being hard.


Than please explain to me how baal runs aren't a waste of time until 85+?

simply by running the bosses I listed I'm able to stay top 100 on the ladder while actually getting decent items meaning my fg skyrockets, if I really wanted I could keep all the gear I find and top the ladder, but I see no reason to as I never bother to get 99 as it's simply a waste of time.
Hi.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 04:24:18
June 02 2011 04:17 GMT
#1636
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jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
June 02 2011 04:20 GMT
#1637

Yeah I don't really agree with that guy about act1 being hard.


ironically it's difficult if you try to stockpile gold and run past most monsters, but its exactly as difficult as how many potions you want to invest in.
I get brain like a skull
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 04:24:34
June 02 2011 04:21 GMT
#1638
On June 02 2011 13:13 MrProb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 13:01 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


I was talking about on hell difficulty, not normal and nm....
On June 02 2011 12:47 MrProb wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...


Are you joking? I've participated in no-armor walkthroughs on hc and made it to hell, I've done complete walkthroughs of the entire game with friends on hc, This game is NOT hard, keep thinking that though...


i'm saying its hard in general/overall

some ppl preferred party play while some, like me, preferred solo in 8ppl game unless i have to party.

and not everyone can do what u did, there are newbs out there who doesnt know shiet about the game or even starters who doesnt know much about game mechanic or a proper way to play.

and yes i know about no armor walkthrough on hc. actually, i've only heard about it. whats the detail on it tho ? a party of 8ppl completely naked leading by necromancer?


No, it's 1 person8 people (not sure why I typed 1 person) no armor, only weapons and summon necros are banned.
Hi.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 02 2011 04:24 GMT
#1639
On June 02 2011 13:21 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 13:13 MrProb wrote:
On June 02 2011 13:01 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


I was talking about on hell difficulty, not normal and nm....
On June 02 2011 12:47 MrProb wrote:
On June 02 2011 12:36 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:55 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:28 Barrin wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On June 02 2011 09:08 MrProb wrote:
Im fine with sell/buy for RL cash but no no to d2jsp


I don't see how anybody can think that. d2jsp is actually an interesting concept. If I quit diablo 2 and started playing WoW for example, I could sell all my diablo 2 stuff for forum gold and purchase gold with it for WoW. Then when I get bored of WoW I can sell everything once again and buy stuff for whatever I'm playing next. d2jsp is standardized currency for all online gaming. I'm not sure I'd like people buying Diablo 3 items with it the day the game is released, but it really isn't the end of the world.

End of the world, of course not.

To a competitive-minded gamer? End of that game for them.

So many people don't know what it's like to be a competitive-minded gamer in an RPG game. You're really missing out IMO.

======

All you people saying "PvE is easy" obviously don't know what it's like laddering without an armada of bots running around. Try taking a group of 5-8 level 80+ random actual people (non-bots) who do not jsp at the beginning of a ladder reset and then do hell baal runs and tell me how easy it is. 6 times out of 10 the run falls apart because you don't have someone who can teleport down to the throne room without 95% of the time. 3 of the rest of the 4 times the run falls apart because the group can't even kill anything. The rest of the time the run actually works because you have a proper mix of characters (DPS'ers of multiple elemental types, battle orders or an oak sage from druid or both, and a tank like an army necromancer or war cry barbarian). Even if you can do it with less than 4 people the experience is quite slow.

Gradually the bots flood the item market and most people have what they need by the 3 week mark (which would without bots take at least 2 months).

I'm not saying PvE is "hard". I'm saying that the people who think it's easy obviously have no idea what it's like without a billion bots doing everything for them and flooding the market with items.


Baal runs are a waste of time for xp early on without loot until about 85 it's better to do chaos if with friends or meph/andy/pindle/eldritch/shenk by that time you should have more than enough gear to do baal with even the slightest help.

Um, that's only true if you get yourself rushed all the way through. So if you get someone to do everything for you so you don't actually have to play the game, then it's easy. Herpity derp?

Note: you can't even get someone to do everything for you at the start of a ladder...


yep

w/o bots/cheats (like automap) the game is pretty hard even in act.1

Ppl are just spoiled by bots/cheats/power play

they dont play the way the game was supposed to be play, yet, they judged the game based on that...


Are you joking? I've participated in no-armor walkthroughs on hc and made it to hell, I've done complete walkthroughs of the entire game with friends on hc, This game is NOT hard, keep thinking that though...


i'm saying its hard in general/overall

some ppl preferred party play while some, like me, preferred solo in 8ppl game unless i have to party.

and not everyone can do what u did, there are newbs out there who doesnt know shiet about the game or even starters who doesnt know much about game mechanic or a proper way to play.

and yes i know about no armor walkthrough on hc. actually, i've only heard about it. whats the detail on it tho ? a party of 8ppl completely naked leading by necromancer?


No, it's 1 person no armor only weapons and summon necros are banned.


1 person game ? no helm, chest, gloves, belt and boots ? im talking about multiplayer tho
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June 02 2011 04:24 GMT
#1640
Hey guys can you continue this discussion in the d2 thread please.
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