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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 20 2009 18:13 GMT
#341
I guess 10. Nxc6 is forced.
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
December 20 2009 18:14 GMT
#342
10. Nxc6
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 19:28:26
December 20 2009 19:27 GMT
#343
hey I had an idea, what do you think of this.

Right now I'm doing my analysis contemplating the positiion and what may be yours and my next move andd it occured to me:

for learning purposes and to contribute on a more sharper thread,

What do you think if I post along with my move, the analysis of what's going in my mind as I play, of course, I'd be in spoilers and you shouldn't click on it, unless I say you guys can.

for instance, right now I can post my analysis on moves 1 to 8, then when on my next move I post the analysis, and depending on how the game goes I can choose if either spoil it or not.

so long story short,

analysis that can be viewed by whtie team would be either posted publicly or spoiled with a comment saying that it can be clicked as it won't affect the game.

analysis that shouldn't be viewed by white team would be posted along its move but would have a warning on NOT TO OPEN, until a major update is done in the future.

I mean we're all gentlemen here right ?? so if I say DON'T read it yet, you would right ??

let me know what do you guys think ??
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 20 2009 20:28 GMT
#344
i dont like it - people would read it.
i would like for you to do it, then post it afterwards.
just my opinion
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 20 2009 20:36 GMT
#345
I think people would read it as well. I think you should just post all of it at the end of the game and then we can read each others analysis for fun.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
December 20 2009 20:47 GMT
#346
Nxc6, forced.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 20 2009 21:01 GMT
#347
10. Nxc6
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 20 2009 21:03 GMT
#348
@ Lightman, post your analysis at bottom of OP. Probably easiest way to put it out of reach. We're playing by the honor system anyhow. At least for spoilers.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
December 20 2009 22:45 GMT
#349
jfazz's 10a. line was just what I was thinking. I vote for 10. Nxc6.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 21 2009 01:57 GMT
#350
Might be best/easiest to wait for the end of the game, then post it all up? I have all my notes saved, so I can do the same at the end of the game if you like.
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goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 02:28:51
December 21 2009 02:24 GMT
#351
+ Show Spoiler +
I really don't get why he decided to play ...f4. I'm not familiar with the Nh6 plan, but f4 doesn't really help out that Knight's future at all and it removes the central tension for no reason at all. Between the lack of c-file counterplay (and easily blocked b-file), exchange of the dark square bishops and the knight that's going to take a while to get anywhere useful, I think that it's already += at the very least.

Now that I look at it a bit more, maybe it's to secure the e5 square for his knight via f7? It'll still require a couple of tempi and meanwhile, we can play stuff like Nd5 or put pressure on the d-file.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 21 2009 02:32 GMT
#352
nxc6
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 04:32:39
December 21 2009 04:31 GMT
#353
My vote is 10 Nxc6.

+ Show Spoiler +
Obviously, if 10... dxc6 11 QxQ RxQ 12 Bxf4, so that wouldn't occur. However, after 10... bxc6, releasing the e3-bishop, I am wanting to make sure of what is going to be coming next. We are expecting 11 Bd4, correct? Because, if 11 Bc5, then 11... d6 leading to either a bishop out of play, or 12 Bd4 anyways, thus leading to an opened diagonal for the black c-bishop. Also, will h3 be considered, to stop the black knight from getting into the game soon?


On December 20 2009 21:31 jfazz wrote:
I guess we just look at it differently. Im a 1.d4 player as a rule, a 1.Nf3 player as an exception, so I don't really understand or enjoy the positions that come from 1.e4 Give me Petrosian and Kramnik all day long!

But just FYI, it doesn't really depend on your opponent, just on the sort of position your favour. The reason I give criticism to 6.f4 is that it is known to give no advantage to white.

Of course you are right. However the games I play nowadays are mostly just against friends. If I were still playing tourneys I'd be adhering to the idea of playing openings that lead to the positions you are comfortable with, but as it is, I play different openings depending on whom I am playing. If it is someone I have not played before, then I adopt the aforementioned philosophy, and stick to openings that lead to open positions, often ones that sacrifice a pawn or two for initiative, eg the Scandinavian, KG, and, dare I say, the Evans Gambit.

I would love to start maining 1 d4, but I do not have nearly as much time as I used to, for learning new lines. Currently, I'm reading up on different lines for Scandinavian, including the debatable Icelandic Gambit. Perhaps I'll use this time to learn some theory for white.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 21 2009 05:45 GMT
#354
Evans Gambit is a very solid choice, you do get full comp for the pawn.

I never understood the draw of the Scandinavian - the idea is to transpose to harmless lines of the caro-kann (which as you all know, i love), while avoiding the pure exchange (fisher variation notably) and advance variations. That sounds good, but the b-pawn sacrifice line, the name of which escapes from me, is EXTREMELY dangerous, for the unprepared player - i think the caro is more solid (obvious really)

If you want to learn 1.d4, pick up either the london system, the colle or the veresov. All of them are easy to play and give comfortable positions, with out much theoretical knowledge required.
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 06:13:19
December 21 2009 06:08 GMT
#355
I apologize for being offtopic.

Thank you for your thoughts. I shall take your advice and find some choice books on the lines. Perhaps something will tickle my fancy. As far as the Scandinavian goes, I only recently starting practicing with it, and so haven't tried the b pawn sac as of yet. I used to be an advocate of the pirc, but as the years have gone, so has much of my ability to use it properly from disuse. I used to do the caro-kann, but I faced trouble from the advance variation, early in my playing years. I may look further into into now that I'm older. I'd like to further discuss some ideas you may have, elsewhere most likely, so as not to disturb the thread further, that give black good potential for for good Queenside castling, as I love kingside pawnstorms when possible as black.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 21 2009 06:15 GMT
#356
Im not a very aggressive player as black, so I don't have a lot of attacking lines to offer sorry. In some variations of the caro you get opposite side castling, often in the mainline with 3.Bf5 or the advance variation with an early Bd3 (notably the 4.Bd3 or 4.c3 lines).

Some lines of the ruy lopez result in oppsoite side castling. Alternatively, the dragon sicilian gets opposite side castling with good piece play which you may enjoy.

usually, castling queenside is done because white has castled queenside, so that he cannot pawn storm you!
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 21 2009 06:15 GMT
#357
10. Nxc6. It's forced.
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
December 21 2009 06:45 GMT
#358
On December 21 2009 15:15 jfazz wrote:
Im not a very aggressive player as black, so I don't have a lot of attacking lines to offer sorry. In some variations of the caro you get opposite side castling, often in the mainline with 3.Bf5 or the advance variation with an early Bd3 (notably the 4.Bd3 or 4.c3 lines).

Some lines of the ruy lopez result in oppsoite side castling. Alternatively, the dragon sicilian gets opposite side castling with good piece play which you may enjoy.

usually, castling queenside is done because white has castled queenside, so that he cannot pawn storm you!


thanks again for the reply.

The frequency of opposite castling is the main reason I embrace the dragon as white, and why I have a, perhaps misguided, tendency to play the Yugoslav or levenfish variations, in hopes of a pawn storm. I will have to read some books concerning the current theory as my play is apparently outdated. Thanks again
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 21 2009 13:23 GMT
#359
Well not "outdated", but in such sharp openings, there are constant improvements, seemingly every couple of weeks. Thats why I like quiet 1.d4 systems, the theory moves much more slowly!
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
December 21 2009 14:32 GMT
#360
good morning gentlemen,

so far everyone has voted for the forced Nxc6

with 7 votes, do you wish me to update earlier since everyone agrees on this move ?
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