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5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
October 08 2025 19:01 GMT
#1
Blizzard released the following hotfix patch for version 5.0.15: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24240447/starcraft-ii-5-0-15-hotfix-patch-notes


Balance
  • Psionic Storm damage was reduced from 140 to 110 over 6 seconds (23.3 DPS > 18.3 DPS).
  • Broodlord speed reduced from 2.62 to 2.42.
  • Ghost HP increased from 100 to 125.


Bug Fixes
  • Fixed an issue with Ghost Skin variation not receiving the light tag or the reduction in supply cost.
  • Fixed an issue where Rich Assimilator shield upgrades were not visible.
  • Fixed an issue where Guardian Shield VFX would persist when picked up in a transport.
  • Fixed an issue with visual inconsistency issues with the Golden Age and Ihanrii Mothership skins.
  • FIxed an issue with Microbial Shroud tool-tip.
  • Fixed an issue with Obserever tool-tip.
  • Fixed an issue where the SFX for Storm stopped before the ability ended.
  • Reverted Group Cast for Caustic Spray.
  • Fixed an issue where Timewarp was applying its speed reduction incorrectly.
  • Fixed an incorrect tooltip with Centrifugal Hooks.
  • Fixed an incorrect tooltip with Adaptive Talons.
  • Fixed an issue where consume would not stop even when the Viper was full energy.
  • Consume ability will now stop when the building is no lower than 7.5 HP.
  • Adjusted VFX on EMP to be more readable.
  • Fixed an issue with Liberator's tooltip.
  • Fixed an issue with Broodlings' attack speed.
  • Fixed an issue with loading/unloading out of transports.
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BlackEyed
Profile Joined October 2024
34 Posts
October 08 2025 19:14 GMT
#2
The poor ghosts really needed a buff...
No, damn it, it was sarcasm.
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States322 Posts
October 08 2025 19:20 GMT
#3
so glad to see david kim is back <3
"You're the idiot, idiot. That's why your fuckin' name is Idiot." - Artosis to CSG
BlackEyed
Profile Joined October 2024
34 Posts
October 08 2025 19:20 GMT
#4
It just occurred to me: THEY NERFED BROODLORDS. Is that really the unit that needed a nerf? Maybe the developers didn’t see what Thors do to them — you don’t even have to focus; they’ll auto-attack and know who to kill.

I don’t know, maybe we’re watching different StarCraft, but in the past year I can’t even remember anyone successfully using broodlords...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
October 08 2025 19:38 GMT
#5
So Psionic Storm is the new Bunker Build time.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
October 08 2025 19:41 GMT
#6
On October 09 2025 04:14 BlackEyed wrote:
The poor ghosts really needed a buff...
No, damn it, it was sarcasm.

Disruptors now can't one-shot Ghosts anymore.
Genuinely don't know how Toss is supposed to beat Terran lategame now
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
October 08 2025 19:42 GMT
#7
Consume ability will now stop when the building is no lower than 7.5 HP.

Does this mean people can no longer kill their own buildings with Consume?

I mean... sure? Seems like a buff rather than a bug fix though.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
October 08 2025 19:43 GMT
#8
On October 09 2025 04:20 BlackEyed wrote:
It just occurred to me: THEY NERFED BROODLORDS. Is that really the unit that needed a nerf? Maybe the developers didn’t see what Thors do to them — you don’t even have to focus; they’ll auto-attack and know who to kill.

I don’t know, maybe we’re watching different StarCraft, but in the past year I can’t even remember anyone successfully using broodlords...

Then you must not watch a lot of Starcraft. Try any Serral ZvP series where the games go late
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-08 19:50:55
October 08 2025 19:50 GMT
#9
broodlord is now even slower... the race that is supposed to be swarmy is becoming more deathball lategame. nice. goodjob blizz. did literally anybody think the broodlord was OP? why are we nerfing it? come on man...
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
October 08 2025 20:11 GMT
#10
The SC2 community is the only one that will dread the possibility of things staying the same, and the next day complain that things have changed.

Damn, give it a freaking moment. We asked for a storm nerf and got it. Try the game now maybe?
Haighstrom
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom210 Posts
October 08 2025 20:51 GMT
#11
Have ya'll complaining about broodlord nerf even seen how insane it is after the "bugfix" that just came out?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 08 2025 20:57 GMT
#12
Not too elegant, but that should do the trick and I hope we don't see Clem ever play a PvP again
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-08 21:02:59
October 08 2025 21:02 GMT
#13
On October 09 2025 05:51 Haighstrom wrote:
Have ya'll complaining about broodlord nerf even seen how insane it is after the "bugfix" that just came out?

I saw the clip on reddit of how it is better vs thors, but still not good. The broodlord, which can only attack ground, loses to a versatile thor just "less so" now. It still traded cost inefficiently. When you can go ultralisk now with microbial shroud and cheaper vikings i dont see why you would ever make the broodlord.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany157 Posts
October 08 2025 21:59 GMT
#14
A Eulogy

Alas, my friends, let us mourn our recently deceased friend, the Broodlord. We had some glorious moments together, when he was young and powerful. But then he got an ill fate. They nerfed all his life and power until he was just a shadow of himself. May he rest in peace now and forever. Amen.

- sarcasm off -
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-08 22:02:01
October 08 2025 22:01 GMT
#15
to be clear i don't think the broodlord is a horrible unit, i just think in most scenarios it will be the worse tier 3 unit choice and not deserving of a nerf. a lot of people including pig were calling for a buff actually.

and also, as i said, making a unit slower encourages deathballing. which i think most people are against. if you wanted to nerf it you could do it in another way.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States322 Posts
October 08 2025 22:02 GMT
#16
Reverted Group Cast for Caustic Spray.

so now it's like casting blink on a group of stalkers?
"You're the idiot, idiot. That's why your fuckin' name is Idiot." - Artosis to CSG
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
October 09 2025 00:07 GMT
#17
On October 09 2025 06:02 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2025 05:51 Haighstrom wrote:
Have ya'll complaining about broodlord nerf even seen how insane it is after the "bugfix" that just came out?

I saw the clip on reddit of how it is better vs thors, but still not good. The broodlord, which can only attack ground, loses to a versatile thor just "less so" now. It still traded cost inefficiently. When you can go ultralisk now with microbial shroud and cheaper vikings i dont see why you would ever make the broodlord.

1v1 unit comparisons are pointless, especially since that Thor loses to Zerglings.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
October 09 2025 02:14 GMT
#18
At least the lone intern on the balance team had the wherewithal to realize that Psi Storm buff was a terrible idea.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1978 Posts
October 09 2025 02:15 GMT
#19
On October 09 2025 09:07 RogueTheGOAT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2025 06:02 CicadaSC wrote:
On October 09 2025 05:51 Haighstrom wrote:
Have ya'll complaining about broodlord nerf even seen how insane it is after the "bugfix" that just came out?

I saw the clip on reddit of how it is better vs thors, but still not good. The broodlord, which can only attack ground, loses to a versatile thor just "less so" now. It still traded cost inefficiently. When you can go ultralisk now with microbial shroud and cheaper vikings i dont see why you would ever make the broodlord.

1v1 unit comparisons are pointless, especially since that Thor loses to Zerglings.

well I dont know if I agree they are "pointless" as its a pretty common unit interaction however I was just responding to op who asked if we saw how insane they are after the bugfix. I haven't seen them in any weekly cups but if I am missing something or another place you guys saw them used I will be happy to take a look and change my mind, but I thought that was what he was talking about.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
October 09 2025 03:29 GMT
#20
There is a new funny bug: female ghost now grants 2 supply instead of consuming it.
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