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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 19 2009 21:22 GMT
#321
Offtopic.

Anyone interested in watching chess on stream, pm me. Mostly games on Internet Chess Club and Playchess later.

Chat on stream is welcome, occasional post game analysis might happen. But bear in mind while I might be a good person I'm most usually not a nice one.

If anyone replies here there's a chance I will not check.

PS: And no I cannot start a new thread because I just registered. I also am not IM Ng5 from ICC, I just stole his ID because I'm a bastard.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 19 2009 22:56 GMT
#322
9. ... f4 response
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10. Bxf4 Bxd4 11 Bxh6 Bxf2 12 Kd1 Rf7
The Bishop on h6 is more troublesome to black than blacks bishop on f2. Anyhow it's near equality.

I've got nothing against fxe5 or O-O
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
December 20 2009 02:28 GMT
#323
gentlemen how are you ?

how does this saturday evening find you ?

at this moment we have to quote Fez from That 70s Show on the episode called The Ice shack ....."the score is horribly tied":

0-0 - 5 votes
Qd2 - 5 votes

f3 - 2 votes

the update will be in a few hours so I advise from all the 20 something registered players to vote in order to decide the outcome of this important move. If I was in white team I would hunt down the players that registered and haven't voted and shoot them in the head, twice. just kidding, once would do fine

remember next voting will close on Tuesday, so the more time you spend on a move the less time you'll have for next move.
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
December 20 2009 09:02 GMT
#324
Lightman I'm 95% sure you miscounted, because there are at least 6 people who voted 0-0.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 09:41:09
December 20 2009 09:32 GMT
#325
someone hurry up and vote for Qd2 plz
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 09:50:26
December 20 2009 09:48 GMT
#326
What on earth is this opening by black? Isn't the King's side completely open?
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Bxh6 Bxh6 exf5 gxf5 Nxf5 Rxf5 Bd3 ...w/e Qg4/h5 can black live?
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 10:26:00
December 20 2009 10:12 GMT
#327
I vote 0-0


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If c4 wasn't played, I'd consider Qd2, to make it resemble common positions from 6 f4 vs the Sicilian Dragon, which is my favorite counter as white. Occasionally I'll go with 6 f3, but it depends on the opponent. Qd2 is best for getting ready to break the black's kingside with Bh6, or just to control the diagonal, but it also allows for queenside castling, which, in turn, allows for quite a decent kingside pawn push on the kingside for white. That pawn on c4 just doesn't sit right with me...



All these hotshots with their 1800+ ratings make me feel so lowly with my ~1300 USCF rating (though I play around a 1500 level now). However, that was from 7 years ago; I stopped going to tourneys after my senior year in highschool. However, I'm always up for some practice games if anyone wants to.

If any of you have an ipod touch/iphone, download the free app, Chess with Friends. We can play easily over that. It is no time limit, so you can play at your leisure.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 11:22 GMT
#328
I thought 6.f4 against the dragon had been refuted after that Nunn v Miles game, when black found you get an edge after Be7 instead of Bg7? Im sure I remember reading that in "New in Chess", when they did a special on the dragon after its heavy rise in popularity after its adoption by Radjabov and Carlsen for much of 2008.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 11:23 GMT
#329
well, maybe not refuted, but it doesnt give an opening advantage, and the resulting play is double edged for both sides.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 20 2009 11:27 GMT
#330
Still waiting for a pro to tell me why my idea is bad.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 11:44 GMT
#331
To Shikyo; Read this and ill do my best to help:
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Id love to give you some analysis, but first please give me some move numbers. Do you want to play 9.Bxh6 or after something else? Is it a general plan, or a tactical ploy starting now? Once I know, ill give you an exact response.
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Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 12:06:40
December 20 2009 11:57 GMT
#332
On December 20 2009 20:22 jfazz wrote:
I thought 6.f4 against the dragon had been refuted after that Nunn v Miles game, when black found you get an edge after Be7 instead of Bg7? Im sure I remember reading that in "New in Chess", when they did a special on the dragon after its heavy rise in popularity after its adoption by Radjabov and Carlsen for much of 2008.


As I said, it really depends on the opponent. The Yugoslav is a very risky counter, as there have been a lot of ways to stop the threat out. I remember 6... Nc6 being a very popular counter to it, protecting the d5 square, and often getting the knights to exchange, relieving some of white's center influence. Against more experienced players, I often do either 6 f3, which allows for more concentration on the sides, instead of the center, which f4 often challenges, or I'll do 6 Be3, as it was also widely accepted. Occasionally I'll do 6 Bc4, if I know my opponent likes to do an early Qc7, and then I just follow up with Bb3.

I'm sure you know more about this than I do, since most of my knowledge is based on my understanding from books that were coming out in the 90s (that's when I played competitively). It was very popular in D-class/C-class games, and it was one of my favorite counters, especially since I was still learning how to properly use KG at the time.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 12:31 GMT
#333
I guess we just look at it differently. Im a 1.d4 player as a rule, a 1.Nf3 player as an exception, so I don't really understand or enjoy the positions that come from 1.e4 Give me Petrosian and Kramnik all day long!

But just FYI, it doesn't really depend on your opponent, just on the sort of position your favour. The reason I give criticism to 6.f4 is that it is known to give no advantage to white.
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 17:36:05
December 20 2009 16:46 GMT
#334

Gentlemen, good morning
Edited: then forget what I said
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
December 20 2009 17:02 GMT
#335
I think you miscounted. 0-0 has 6, there's 3 on page 15 (athos, jfazz and ikari) and 3 on page 16 (incognito/goldrush/bb).
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 17:11 GMT
#336
without doublechecking numbes, it might be easiest and most satisfactory if the two votes for f3 simply recast a vote - that way no one voting for the mainline has to "flip-flop", and the guys advocating a sideline can at least own the decision, so they haven't been ignored.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 17:35:38
December 20 2009 17:32 GMT
#337
gentlemen,

after an extensive hangover from last night it looks like I have misscounted

I definetly shouldn't have had that extra scotch drink I had last night, my sincere apologies

9.0-0 wins the vote

now I play 9....f4

next voting closes on Tuesday

Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 17:43 GMT
#338
10.Ncx6 thanks
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a)10...bxc6 11.Bd4 d6 (Bxd4?) 12.Bxg7 Kxg7 13.c5! winning the c5 square for our knight, and damaging black's structure even further. Our b-pawn can simply be guarded by playing b3 if necessary, and our position is awesome.

b)10...dxc6? 11.Qxd8 Rxd8 12.Bxf4 1-0
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 18:27:34
December 20 2009 17:49 GMT
#339
Nxc6

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Is it just me or did lightman just make a mistake?
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 17:52 GMT
#340
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I don't think it was a 'mistake' but it does give white an edge. I think he is just trying to play as actively as possible, as Sicilian players are want to do. However, against a positional Maroczy, he might be making too many concessions for little gain, which could result in a horrid endgame for him
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