• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:09
CET 05:09
KST 13:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1947 users

[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On

Forum Index > BW General
9 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byv1
September 29th, 2025 08:40 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
With (T)BarrackS surviving (P)Mini we are ending up with a fairly balanced Ro4, but maybe this week zergs tip it completely in their favor? Both (Z)Soma and (Z)Larva have been having an excellent return run in the ASL thus far. Are they destined to collide? or the former SKTelecom T1's 1-2 punch of (P)BeSt and (P)Bisu up to stopping them and possibly collide themselves in the Ro4?

Liquipedia
Group A Preview

The Ascension of the King


(Z)Soma

Soma’s near perfect run in his return to the ASL has taken the following names: sSak, Mini, Larva, and Light. Quite an impressive roster of players if I do say so myself. His play has been like he’s never left, completely dismantling and outplaying his opponents left and right. And his ELOBoard rating speaks for itself, as since his return, he’s immediately climbed back into the top 10 and currently sits 3rd, the best online Zerg at the moment only behind FlaSh and Rain. Oh, and he had a nice Major Proleague 5 win all-kill just a few days ago. Oh, and add a 4-2 win over Mini in a Bo7 sponmatch to his resume.

Soma’s play has been really inspirational and solid. As I’ve said before, it almost feels like the combination of Soulkey’s understanding of the game with EffOrt’s decisiveness and micro. He very rarely makes the wrong decision, and it’s incredibly tough to outplay him when he’s just better at micro than you. His pressure overwhelms Protoss players and he’s not scared to throw in weird cheese as well. In his 5 game sweep, he did all sorts of builds, both defending against cheese, and throwing in some cheese of his own. So in a long Bo7 series, I don’t expect soma to be thrown off or feel under pressure from opponents who may try to cheese him. And with how Best looked in his Ro16 group, he’s going to have to resort to creative cheese builds to overcome soma.

Soma’s unique spire and hydra den at the same time off 3 hatch lair style has really thrown off several players, not knowing if he’s going to go for the ee-han timing 5 muta scourge trap or just go into mass hydra and bust through the front. But his normal macro style is still rock solid, so don’t expect him to rely just on catching his opponents offguard, soma can still macro with the best of them, although going into a macro game may be exactly what BeSt is looking for.

(P)BeSt

BeSt’s performance in his Ro16 group left A LOT to be desired. It never really felt that he actually outplayed his opponents, more that his opponents would get an advantage… then squander it with poor play of their own. BeSt wasn’t even doing anything that spectacular, failing on simple basics like not making a 2nd cannon for the potential of a hydra bust, or needing to get away with proxy in-base gateway making DTs to win against Queen. As a friend of mine would say, “It’s just Protoss.”

Against an opponent like Soma, BeSt needs to find ways to improve his play if he wants to advance. Queen and BTS, while fine opponents, are a whole tier below the monster that is Soma. Perhaps going into zealot man with 3, 4, or 6 gate timings are going to be what he needs to pull out of his bag, as 2 stargate builds have not worked out for BeSt, and also not worked out against soma in his online games. His tendency to want to make dark archons for anti-muta is also something that soma is likely to be prepared for, and he won’t dive in too deep with his muta flock until he confirms the presence of the dark archon or if BeSt wastes some maelstrom. We’ll see how many gateways and zealots BeSt decides to make in order to try to pull this series out, but if I were BeSt, he’s really going to need to reach deep into his bag of builds to find the win.

(Z)Soma Advances To the Ro4 4-1.

Group B Preview

SOSPA Classic


The quarterfinal clash between (P)Bisu and (Z)Larva brings two former SKT T1 teammates back into the spotlight. Once long-time practice partners, they now meet on opposite sides of the stage with a semifinal berth on the line. The history between them carries an added wrinkle: Bisu has built a stellar win rate against his fellow SKT alumni over the years, making this matchup more than just another Protoss versus Zerg showdown.

(P)Bisu has shown flashes of brilliance in recent seasons but has struggled to turn those into deep playoff runs. In ASL17 he reached the quarterfinals before being swept by SnOw in a Protoss mirror. The following season, at the 2024 SSL Autumn event, Bisu advanced to the Round of 16 but fell short with a 1–2 series record, beating Jaedong in his opening match but losing a close 1–2 to hero in the deciding set. His most recent appearance in ASL19 was even more difficult, as he failed to escape the Round of 16 after back-to-back losses to Queen and Action. Across those three seasons, Bisu’s PvZ record in series stood at 1–3, with his lone win coming against Jaedong in ASL18. The numbers highlight his ongoing struggle against top Zergs, a weakness that continues to shape his modern legacy.

(Z)Larva, meanwhile, has had a much different path. After his famous ASL11 championship in 2021, where he stunned the world by beating Mini 4–3 in the finals, Larva endured a drought of results. He has chosen not to compete in recent ASLs leaving his ZvP record untouched in those years. His return in ASL20 has reenergized his fan base, as he fought his way back to the Round of 8 and earned another shot at a historic opponent. Larva’s reputation in ZvP remains formidable, and while his absence left him with little to show during recent seasons, his track record in the matchup makes him a dangerous threat to any Protoss.

Head-to-head history adds another layer to this series. Back in ASL4, Bisu bested Larva 3–1 in the semifinals, only to see Larva get his revenge years later in ASL11 with a group stage upset that contributed to Bisu’s elimination. That split record sets the stage for their first high-stakes meeting in years, with Bisu looking to reclaim the upper hand and Larva aiming to extend his reputation as a player who thrives when the lights are brightest.

With a place in the semifinals at stake, this battle is as much about pride as progress. For Bisu, it is another chance to prove that his dominance over former teammates extends into the modern ASL era and that he can still overcome the Zerg matchup that has caused him so much trouble. For Larva, it is the perfect opportunity to show that he can upset expectations and topple the very player he once prepared alongside. In the very end, we must compare Larva’s scary momentum and energy he brings to this ASL versus the highest level of play we’ve seen from Bisu in the past 10 ASLs. The series is going to totally rock and looks to go all 7 games, but the edge goes to Bisu.

(P)Bisu Advances To The Ro4!



Writers: FlashFTW, BisuDagger
Graphics: v1
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
September 29 2025 08:42 GMT
#2
very late on my part.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
September 30 2025 16:11 GMT
#3
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10237 Posts
September 30 2025 16:34 GMT
#4
On October 01 2025 01:11 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?

Just solid play all around from him. He goes through these weird ups and downs in his play where he looks like he's the old bisu, and then times where he's borderline retired. This just happens to be one of those up runs for him.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
September 30 2025 16:37 GMT
#5
On October 01 2025 01:34 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2025 01:11 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?

Just solid play all around from him. He goes through these weird ups and downs in his play where he looks like he's the old bisu, and then times where he's borderline retired. This just happens to be one of those up runs for him.

I think the maps are more favorable this season too. All protoss are on the same page this season.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
September 30 2025 16:48 GMT
#6
On October 01 2025 01:11 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?

I think you may have only saw that Bisu failed to qualify on day 1, and made it through on day 2.
boomer hands
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2093 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-01 05:47:25
October 01 2025 02:26 GMT
#7
On October 01 2025 01:11 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?

You can of course go back and read the coverage...

Bisu lost the day 1 qualifier final 1-2 to Paralyze.
Then he dropped one game during day 2.
Went 2-0 in Ro24 against Speed and TY.
Went 2-0 (3-1) in Ro16, beating Queen and BTS.
+ Show Spoiler +
And then crushed Larva 4-1 in Ro8 after dropping the first map.

So he's now 9-2 overall, and 7-2 vZ this season. And so far he hasn't looked like he's struggling.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
October 02 2025 22:48 GMT
#8
Oh thanks, all for letting me know. Didn't know qualifiers have days 1 and 2. I thought once you're out, that's it. I haven't watched Ro8. Will watch it soon
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
797 Posts
October 03 2025 02:40 GMT
#9
Fun read. Thanks folks.

Bisu fighting~
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
October 04 2025 23:44 GMT
#10
On October 01 2025 11:26 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2025 01:11 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
thanks for sharing this... so i didn't follow this season because i thought bisu didn't make pass the qualifiers. what happened? how did he get to Ro8?

You can of course go back and read the coverage...

Bisu lost the day 1 qualifier final 1-2 to Paralyze.
Then he dropped one game during day 2.
Went 2-0 in Ro24 against Speed and TY.
Went 2-0 (3-1) in Ro16, beating Queen and BTS.
+ Show Spoiler +
And then crushed Larva 4-1 in Ro8 after dropping the first map.

So he's now 9-2 overall, and 7-2 vZ this season. And so far he hasn't looked like he's struggling.



+ Show Spoiler +
finally watched Ro8, it was so good. Game 4 was so intense!
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
ChoboTeamLeague
01:00
S33 Finals FxB vs Chumpions
PiGStarcraft438
Discussion
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #60
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft438
RuFF_SC2 172
Nathanias 69
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 63
Sexy 49
Noble 27
yabsab 25
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever565
NeuroSwarm112
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 721
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv189
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox506
Other Games
summit1g11404
Day[9].tv351
C9.Mang0318
Maynarde147
Trikslyr45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1056
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 74
• davetesta13
• Adnapsc2 4
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki26
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21461
League of Legends
• Rush849
• Stunt202
• Lourlo158
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur109
Other Games
• Scarra2843
• Day9tv351
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
7h 51m
BSL: GosuLeague
16h 51m
PiGosaur Cup
20h 51m
The PondCast
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
5 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.