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ZerOCoolSC2
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Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
On April 13 2019 17:36 Miragee wrote: Well, I get exactly what you mean. However, I thought the anime actually didn't do a bad job of putting emphasis on mundane scenes for by the use of sakuga in "random" situations. Mind you, I still think the adaptations are pretty good. The work is supposed to be a parody of superhero stuff/shounen battle manga/whatever. Sometimes, it feels like they've become exactly what they parody. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but it's not what I'm looking for in the series. On April 14 2019 06:17 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Kimetsu no Yaiba is a good show and I hope it lives up to the manga. It'll be a bit slow starting, but it picks up fast and just keeps going. 152-ish chapters if anyone wants to binge the manga. I'm curious to see what they'll do now that ufotable is screwed. | ||
BigFan
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For instance, at one point, we see them trying to drag her by a car which is way way out there to me. I'm aware of how bad physical abuse can get, so I guess what I'm wondering is, has there been documentation of this kind of bullying happening? I can only imagine the physical damage it can cause... I think I only have two complaints: + Show Spoiler + One is that I would've liked her to stay strong till the end. It felt like she seesaw-ed a lot at times. Like take the bullying for instance. Her declaring war on F4 in the beginning, and surviving all the red cards she got in the anime was amazing. There were also times where she stood up for herself regardless of who was on the other end, be it Sakurabo when she found out that she took those pics or even gang members who kidnapped her to get back at Tsukasa. But then you have many many episodes in between where she's so worried about saying or doing something which feels like it runs counter to her personality. Guess one can attribute some of that to her feelings of which she is unsure of and seeing as she has to find an answer, she keeps dwelling on them endlessly. At times, it seemed like she and Tsukasa would honestly finally get together for good instead of fighting almost every time they met, but she was always unsure of her feelings. Now, the manga did continue for a decade+ after the anime aired so my guess is that there was no answer from the source about what her true feelings were which explains all the jumping. Other part of it is that some of the stuff that happened would've at least made Tsukasa a candidate in her mind imo. Him choosing to believe her after the German blond incident and saving her from the bullying or venturing out in the snow in Vancouver then rescuing her and cuddling up for body heat lol. The guy has done damage to her at times like early on or when he tried to expel her, but more times than not, he's saved her life. Even if it happened once, you'll think she'll see him a bit differently, but several times and not much of an answer? Of course, Tsukasa isn't without his faults. I still can't understand how he felt betrayed by her back when they went to his villa on that island and she kissed Rui. She never gave him an answer and he was the one who persuaded her to come+decided to room with her. If they hooked up, then sure but they never did. Lying to him about the pager was a bad idea but that wasn't betray from my perspective. I could go on and on so anyone wants to discuss stuff, let me know! On April 13 2019 17:36 Miragee wrote: I mean, the animation in OPM s1 was top notch for a TV series. S2 so far looks like the average show, which is quite a bit below that but not complete garbage. As for Gate, I'm not really interested in spending more time talking about that but I appreciate the offer.  Indeed. People are raging about the latest episode, but imo it was fine. We still had some funny moments, good albeit brief fights and there's a lot of questions now about how things will proceed. As for season 1's animation, I read somewhere that there were a lot of freelance animators who put in a ton of work because they loved the webcomic/manga and obviously, a lot of those guys+the direction, not to mention the anime studio have changed so naturally, the direction and such will take a hit. Only complaint I have (if you can call it that) is that it feels like OPM changed overall in terms of how the anime is being presented. Spazer mentioned that the OPM webcomic wasn't so much about action while the first anime season was "full" of it. I felt like the second season took a turn and made things even more serious. First season felt like aside from a couple of fights, if even, Saitama was always in a "relaxed" mode and it was all some kind of a joke. He only became serious on several occasions while in two episodes, he's already surpassed that imo. Thankfully, it's still all enjoyable to me and I'm pretty sure once people actually look past the animation and such, they'll realize the story is still there and can be enjoyable too. Edit: Saw several people mention what they are watching, but what about everyone else? Anyone watching that Magmel anime? It reminds me of Toriko though Toriko is better imo, but it's getting better too as we get more fleshing out of our main character. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
I am not really feeling the new season the. I am more feeling something like a Gintama rewatch. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 17 2019 12:41 BigFan wrote: Spazer mentioned that the OPM webcomic wasn't so much about action while the first anime season was "full" of it. I felt like the second season took a turn and made things even more serious. First season felt like aside from a couple of fights, if even, Saitama was always in a "relaxed" mode and it was all some kind of a joke. He only became serious on several occasions while in two episodes, he's already surpassed that imo. Thankfully, it's still all enjoyable to me and I'm pretty sure once people actually look past the animation and such, they'll realize the story is still there and can be enjoyable too. The anime follows the manga, which has a more traditional emphasis on action. By comparison the webcomic has a languid pace and focuses more intently on its absurdist take on the shounen genre. As a illustrator ONE never really had the finesse or panache to create good fight scenes so he embraced the zany humor allowed by the format. It might have never been his intention to depict thrilling battles in the first place. But Yusuke Murata's artwork really distinguishes the manga as a separate entity in that respect, so it's natural people would notice. On April 18 2019 00:27 Toadesstern wrote: I kind of get the feeling that the voice for Saitama and the visuals for Saitama aren't matching as good as they did in s1... I can't really put it into words and explain why but it feels like something's off. Initially I thought it's the VA but it could just as well be sound director or the animation while the VA does the same as he did for s1. It's both. You can noticeably see production trying to cut as many frames as possible while keeping the action scenes coherent. The change in voice acting is harder to target, but Saitama is unenthused in several scenes where being quizzically oblivious or serene would sound more appropriate. | ||
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Miragee
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On April 18 2019 00:27 Toadesstern wrote: I kind of get the feeling that the voice for Saitama and the visuals for Saitama aren't matching as good as they did in s1... I can't really put it into words and explain why but it feels like something's off. Innitially I thought it's the VA but it could just as well be sound director or the animation while the VA does the same as he did for s1. I actually had to look up the VA when I started the episode because at first it felt like Saitama was voiced by another person. It's indeed the same VA but there definitely seems to be something to what you said. It might be the sound director/director. If I had to guess that's where I would put my money. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On April 18 2019 05:25 Miragee wrote: I actually had to look up the VA when I started the episode because at first it felt like Saitama was voiced by another person. It's indeed the same VA but there definitely seems to be something to what you said. It might be the sound director/director. If I had to guess that's where I would put my money. yeah think so too. If I had to put my money somewhere I'd say it's the sound director not being able to express what they want from the VA as good as whoever did the job in s1 or just not being as in touch with how the final visuals will end up looking. It's nothing major but it had a bunch of scenes where I just felt he was too monotone for the animation that they had for a given scene or not quite enough. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On April 17 2019 13:44 Slaughter wrote: Only thing I watched was Zoku Owarimonogatari. It was pretty good. A movie chopped into 6 parts. I am not really feeling the new season the. I am more feeling something like a Gintama rewatch. That's what I've been doing lately. Small world. | ||
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nanaoei
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when the show got mentioned to someone i talk to, they told me they already know it's going to be shit, and that it's a fact. to me this is like one of those weird things that aren't necessarily wrong, but is something that gets parroted and later passed on as fact even if these same people never actually watch the show or go in with an objective eye. it looks fine, there are less frames of animation, that's all it is. i think a lot of people anticipated it would blow their minds. for something to continually blow your mind it has to reach some really high heights and that takes an insane amount of resources to accomplish reliably. yes they could have adapted it better and had better scenes, and i'm sure the rest of the anime will fail to meet that initial anticipation. but it can't be so bad that you have to shit on it automatically because it's not what you imagined? | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 19 2019 00:35 Aznupdown wrote: Story still good. ...let's be real. One Punch Man never had much of a story. Its main conceit is entirely contingent on the plot moving quickly, the satirical elements and constant invention of new heroes/villains to grab one's attention. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On April 19 2019 00:15 nanaoei wrote: i saw large amounts of hate for OPM before the show even started. the trailers and all that. when the show got mentioned to someone i talk to, they told me they already know it's going to be shit, and that it's a fact. to me this is like one of those weird things that aren't necessarily wrong, but is something that gets parroted and later passed on as fact even if these same people never actually watch the show or go in with an objective eye. it looks fine, there are less frames of animation, that's all it is. i think a lot of people anticipated it would blow their minds. for something to continually blow your mind it has to reach some really high heights and that takes an insane amount of resources to accomplish reliably. yes they could have adapted it better and had better scenes, and i'm sure the rest of the anime will fail to meet that initial anticipation. but it can't be so bad that you have to shit on it automatically because it's not what you imagined? while I agree with that observation I'm one of the guys who kept defending it and JC staff and pretty much went into it with no negative opinions. I even said I liked ep1 when it aired. More or less. I didn't straight up say that much because people like to shit on anime on here and you become part of the uncool group (BigFan etc) if you outright say you like stuff. So keep that in mind about when I said Saitama voice / visuals are not really matching for me or somehow off. I still like the series. I thought ep1 was better than ep2. And it's not like I think the VAs in general are a bit off. Genos is still as great as he was in s1. The ninja guy perhaps even got better voice-vice (imo). It's really just Saitama who here and there somehow seems off. | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
On April 19 2019 02:18 CosmicSpiral wrote: ...let's be real. One Punch Man never had much of a story. Its main conceit is entirely contingent on the plot moving quickly, the satirical elements and constant invention of new heroes/villains to grab one's attention. Yeah thats true. We just all want to be super heroes deep down inside and OPM speaks to us in that sense. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 19 2019 03:25 Aznupdown wrote: Yeah thats true. We just all want to be super heroes deep down inside and OPM speaks to us in that sense. Kinda. OPM is both a send-up and reaffirmation of traditional shounen; it can be shockingly cynical on what motivates superheroes to partake in the profession. Arguably it's also a malignant narcissistic fantasy. I'm sure ONE didn't intend for it to give off that impression, but the interpretation is unavoidable if we apply the 'power fantasy' spiel to American comics with a straight face. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 17 2019 13:44 Slaughter wrote: Only thing I watched was Zoku Owarimonogatari. It was pretty good. A movie chopped into 6 parts. I am not really feeling the new season the. I am more feeling something like a Gintama rewatch. oh I see. You should check out Fruit Basket at least imo. The older one was a fun watch and the author is involved in this one so it should be good too. Plus Tohru is great! On April 18 2019 03:52 CosmicSpiral wrote: The anime follows the manga, which has a more traditional emphasis on action. By comparison the webcomic has a languid pace and focuses more intently on its absurdist take on the shounen genre. As a illustrator ONE never really had the finesse or panache to create good fight scenes so he embraced the zany humor allowed by the format. It might have never been his intention to depict thrilling battles in the first place. But Yusuke Murata's artwork really distinguishes the manga as a separate entity in that respect, so it's natural people would notice. Makes sense. My main point was that it feels like a direction change where we still have action, but there's even more emphasis on it now. I'm mostly looking at it from Saitama's perspective. I mean, the guy went serious against Blizzard or w/e her name is when he was lecturing her and during their fight if I remember properly. Even when he was fighting Genos in season 1 and the guy was going all out, Saitama was never serious till the final blow, but he now needs to be serious against a rank B? On April 19 2019 00:15 nanaoei wrote: i saw large amounts of hate for OPM before the show even started. the trailers and all that. when the show got mentioned to someone i talk to, they told me they already know it's going to be shit, and that it's a fact. to me this is like one of those weird things that aren't necessarily wrong, but is something that gets parroted and later passed on as fact even if these same people never actually watch the show or go in with an objective eye. it looks fine, there are less frames of animation, that's all it is. i think a lot of people anticipated it would blow their minds. for something to continually blow your mind it has to reach some really high heights and that takes an insane amount of resources to accomplish reliably. yes they could have adapted it better and had better scenes, and i'm sure the rest of the anime will fail to meet that initial anticipation. but it can't be so bad that you have to shit on it automatically because it's not what you imagined? People were really hyped after the first season and I honestly can't really blame them. S1 had fantastic quality all around so naturally when season 2 fell short of that mark, people raged. IMO it's a bit too much though since the show is still a fantastic watch, just that the quality isn't on the same level. Then like you mentioned, there are people who'll say "I hear OPM s2 is bad therefore it's bad" without even watching an episode or two to see just how bad it is. On April 19 2019 02:41 Toadesstern wrote: while I agree with that observation I'm one of the guys who kept defending it and JC staff and pretty much went into it with no negative opinions. I even said I liked ep1 when it aired. More or less. I didn't straight up say that much because people like to shit on anime on here and you become part of the uncool group (BigFan etc) if you outright say you like stuff. So keep that in mind about when I said Saitama voice / visuals are not really matching for me or somehow off. I still like the series. I thought ep1 was better than ep2. And it's not like I think the VAs in general are a bit off. Genos is still as great as he was in s1. The ninja guy perhaps even got better voice-vice (imo). It's really just Saitama who here and there somehow seems off. I think your point on the sound is interesting. Other people mentioned the same thing too. I haven't paid as much attention and done a comparison to see, but the show definitely has a different feel to it. As for the group bit, I think it's silly not to express your thoughts on something lest you be painted with such a label. It's true that people like to shit on anime here, but after seeing OPM hate on MAL, this place is rather tame. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On April 19 2019 12:04 BigFan wrote: [...] As for the group bit, I think it's silly not to express your thoughts on something lest you be painted with such a label.[...] that's totally something someone from the uncool-people-group would say though | ||
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Sentenal
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 19 2019 12:04 BigFan wrote: Makes sense. My main point was that it feels like a direction change where we still have action, but there's even more emphasis on it now. I'm mostly looking at it from Saitama's perspective. I mean, the guy went serious against Blizzard or w/e her name is when he was lecturing her and during their fight if I remember properly. Even when he was fighting Genos in season 1 and the guy was going all out, Saitama was never serious till the final blow, but he now needs to be serious against a rank B? Part of it is the new artwork is more visceral or eye-popping. Another contribution is the anime has coincidentally reaching the point where he has some 1v1 fights with emotional weight. The next time he approaches anything resembling gravitas will be + Show Spoiler + chapter 75 aka the end of the martial arts tournament arc, which will probably correspond to the end of Season 2 Saitama has never gotten serious against anyone in the series. He just thinks she's spouting nonsense and it annoys him. Fubuki chooses to stay at B rank 1. Her true ranking in terms of power level would be around A rank 10-12, and that's largely limited by her own insecurity. I imagine she has a reasonable shot at being S-class if + Show Spoiler + she could mentally escape Tatsumaki's shadow On April 19 2019 12:04 BigFan wrote: It's true that people like to shit on anime here, but after seeing OPM hate on MAL, this place is rather tame. Doesn't MAL shit on everything at one point or another? I remember people griping about Grand Blue because it was too aimless for their tastes. How can you hate on a diving manga? | ||
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