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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 20:36:01
August 13 2012 20:35 GMT
#45141


New anime from SHAFT revealed at C82, with character designs by Kantoku! Looks swag.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-10/shaft-prism-nana-anime-promo-debuts-at-comic-market
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 13 2012 20:53 GMT
#45142
On August 14 2012 05:26 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 05:19 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:43 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:36 Tabbris wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.

So its expected that I watch this with wikipedia open -.-. Hmmm

I read it on half a screen, use the 1.5 other screens for wiki and random lookups and occasionally to check back to beginning with character introductions and terms and summaries, lol.

I think I spent most of vol 1 reading going wait who the fuck is who.


And it's still 5x easier to follow than Owari no Chronicle...

No? Ahead was easier by far to follow just by not having a like 60~70ish man cast by vol 1.


Horizon's story progression made alot more sense and alot less jumping around though. There are alot characters, but can ignore most of them for now without mattering too much. Ahead 4-A to 5-B was so confusing it literally made no sense (reading them on a 13 hr flight does not help either).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 20:55:12
August 13 2012 20:54 GMT
#45143
On August 14 2012 05:35 Ferrose wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqnfv_oiE9g

New anime from SHAFT revealed at C82, with character designs by Kantoku! Looks swag.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-10/shaft-prism-nana-anime-promo-debuts-at-comic-market


Wait.... is that Qb?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 21:01:12
August 13 2012 20:58 GMT
#45144
On August 14 2012 05:53 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 05:26 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2012 05:19 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:43 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:36 Tabbris wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.

So its expected that I watch this with wikipedia open -.-. Hmmm

I read it on half a screen, use the 1.5 other screens for wiki and random lookups and occasionally to check back to beginning with character introductions and terms and summaries, lol.

I think I spent most of vol 1 reading going wait who the fuck is who.


And it's still 5x easier to follow than Owari no Chronicle...

No? Ahead was easier by far to follow just by not having a like 60~70ish man cast by vol 1.


Horizon's story progression made alot more sense and alot less jumping around though. There are alot characters, but can ignore most of them for now without mattering too much. Ahead 4-A to 5-B was so confusing it literally made no sense (reading them on a 13 hr flight does not help either).

idk, I have 0 problems following the story in ahead, pretty straightforward if anything. It is possible to ignore Horizon characters but you are just asking to miss out on jokes and the little developments before they get big vols to themselves.

Also it is just messier because the story involves itself with the individual characters more so they do in Ahead, which you can more or less piece out by knowing the myth in question early on. Later on it is just a question of how the overarching story holds up, which isn't too hard to get through.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 13 2012 21:06 GMT
#45145
On August 14 2012 05:35 Ferrose wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqnfv_oiE9g

New anime from SHAFT revealed at C82, with character designs by Kantoku! Looks swag.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-10/shaft-prism-nana-anime-promo-debuts-at-comic-market


A few thoughts just by seeing trailer/character design:

Mahou Shoujo meets K-on?
Notice the unlimited Bow Works?
Character design on the three girls in mahou shoujo mode makes me think of pokemon starters, with fire/water/grass, lol.
Probably not a Madoka copy (at least I hope not, madoka:s trailer was pretty "cutesy" as well, though). Honestly hoping for something closer to Nanoha than anything else, but initial impression is that it's a bit more light hearted (but again, they have fooled us before).

Also, those creatures look too similar to Kyuubey to be allowed to live.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 13 2012 21:09 GMT
#45146
On August 14 2012 05:58 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 05:53 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 14 2012 05:26 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2012 05:19 ragz_gt wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:43 Ecael wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:36 Tabbris wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.

So its expected that I watch this with wikipedia open -.-. Hmmm

I read it on half a screen, use the 1.5 other screens for wiki and random lookups and occasionally to check back to beginning with character introductions and terms and summaries, lol.

I think I spent most of vol 1 reading going wait who the fuck is who.


And it's still 5x easier to follow than Owari no Chronicle...

No? Ahead was easier by far to follow just by not having a like 60~70ish man cast by vol 1.


Horizon's story progression made alot more sense and alot less jumping around though. There are alot characters, but can ignore most of them for now without mattering too much. Ahead 4-A to 5-B was so confusing it literally made no sense (reading them on a 13 hr flight does not help either).

idk, I have 0 problems following the story in ahead, pretty straightforward if anything. It is possible to ignore Horizon characters but you are just asking to miss out on jokes and the little developments before they get big vols to themselves.

Also it is just messier because the story involves itself with the individual characters more so they do in Ahead, which you can more or less piece out by knowing the myth in question early on. Later on it is just a question of how the overarching story holds up, which isn't too hard to get through.


I was following Ahead fine until + Show Spoiler +
Top G
, then I just lost... Somehow I expect Horizon to take a similar turn after V5.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 22:08:18
August 13 2012 22:07 GMT
#45147
I've linked these on IRC before, possibly in this topic before, but now alot more people here have read Muv-Luv Alternative than in the past. so I'll share here too. Two amusing parody/what-if videos.

Uguu Kawaii Moe Yandere BETA:

The 8 minute mark is amazing lol


An "alternate" Original Hive Operation (lots of sorta spoilers in this one):
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 22:17:35
August 13 2012 22:13 GMT
#45148
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc..

BS movie being a pretty good example. Quite a heavy bit of snipping in their that totally thew the movie off for me. I can only imagine how many anime adaptations I would like so much less if I had access to the source material; and tbh thats fine, you make do with what you have to work with in the time you can offer it.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 13 2012 22:30 GMT
#45149
On August 14 2012 05:35 Ferrose wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqnfv_oiE9g

New anime from SHAFT revealed at C82, with character designs by Kantoku! Looks swag.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-08-10/shaft-prism-nana-anime-promo-debuts-at-comic-market


All them girls looks pretty fcking kawaii yo. Ill give it a shot.
Skol
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
August 13 2012 23:16 GMT
#45150
On August 13 2012 12:26 Southlight wrote:
Sent you a link. Although you may (or may not, dunno) want to start with Chronicles of the End of the World (Owari no Chronicle), as it's a precursor to Horizon and explains why the world ended up the way it did, lol :D

Edit:
My distinction of LN vs novel tends to be based on the writing, not so much the length (a lot of novels are the length of LNs). I think Kawakami performs due diligence on topics being written on, has significantly deeper content, and has a writing style that's more befitting the term "novel," similar to most of Nishio Ishin's stuff. There's a reason why the latter is published by Kodansha, which is typically a novel-publishing company but happens to publish Nasu and Nishio. They just get lumped into "LNs" because they have an anime-style cover, but the content is quite different ;p


Ah very true. I started reading 終わりのクロニクル already. Decided that I needed to read that before I jumped into the main book since from the anime, I know the history is long and I'd be better off knowing wtf happened so I can actually enjoy reading it and not flicking back numerous pages to think what happened.
Lifes too short to be small.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#45151
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 00:27:21
August 14 2012 00:22 GMT
#45152
On August 14 2012 08:18 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.


I havent started season 2 so Im not talking about that. I marathoned the first one when it ended, plan to do the same for S2, either way I doubt I'll be massively let down. Pretty sure checking up on the ranting here and what i know myself will be enough to connect the dots. I havent even seen it yet and I kinda already have a pretty good picture of the backdrop that you guys talked about with S2.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
August 14 2012 00:52 GMT
#45153
On August 14 2012 09:22 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:18 Southlight wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.


I havent started season 2 so Im not talking about that. I marathoned the first one when it ended, plan to do the same for S2, either way I doubt I'll be massively let down. Pretty sure checking up on the ranting here and what i know myself will be enough to connect the dots. I havent even seen it yet and I kinda already have a pretty good picture of the backdrop that you guys talked about with S2.


You are/were exactly in my boat. I marathoned the first season, thought it was good albeit a tad confusing. However I decided to start reading the LN but if I wasn't able to read Japanese, I doubt I'd bother reading it since only like half the chapters are translated on Bakatsuki - unless there's another source for it.

Other than that, I think many people will try and read some of the LN to make up for the anime - is my thoughts anyway.
Lifes too short to be small.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 14 2012 00:56 GMT
#45154
On August 14 2012 09:52 Sickkiee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:22 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:18 Southlight wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.


I havent started season 2 so Im not talking about that. I marathoned the first one when it ended, plan to do the same for S2, either way I doubt I'll be massively let down. Pretty sure checking up on the ranting here and what i know myself will be enough to connect the dots. I havent even seen it yet and I kinda already have a pretty good picture of the backdrop that you guys talked about with S2.


You are/were exactly in my boat. I marathoned the first season, thought it was good albeit a tad confusing. However I decided to start reading the LN but if I wasn't able to read Japanese, I doubt I'd bother reading it since only like half the chapters are translated on Bakatsuki - unless there's another source for it.

Other than that, I think many people will try and read some of the LN to make up for the anime - is my thoughts anyway.


Only half translated? Well, that decides it for me, I'm afraid. I'll just stick to the anime :/

Oh well, StrikerS starting to get really good now.
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
August 14 2012 01:16 GMT
#45155
On August 14 2012 09:56 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:52 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:18 Southlight wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.


I havent started season 2 so Im not talking about that. I marathoned the first one when it ended, plan to do the same for S2, either way I doubt I'll be massively let down. Pretty sure checking up on the ranting here and what i know myself will be enough to connect the dots. I havent even seen it yet and I kinda already have a pretty good picture of the backdrop that you guys talked about with S2.


You are/were exactly in my boat. I marathoned the first season, thought it was good albeit a tad confusing. However I decided to start reading the LN but if I wasn't able to read Japanese, I doubt I'd bother reading it since only like half the chapters are translated on Bakatsuki - unless there's another source for it.

Other than that, I think many people will try and read some of the LN to make up for the anime - is my thoughts anyway.


Only half translated? Well, that decides it for me, I'm afraid. I'll just stick to the anime :/

Oh well, StrikerS starting to get really good now.


Ya unless there are other fan-translated LN's out there BT is the only one. I think they've done just over half of the chapters of the first 1-A or something. So it'll be a long time to get them ALL done. T_T


Lifes too short to be small.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
August 14 2012 01:26 GMT
#45156
On August 14 2012 09:56 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 09:52 Sickkiee wrote:
On August 14 2012 09:22 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 08:18 Southlight wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:13 Rebs wrote:
On August 14 2012 03:23 Ecael wrote:
Well thing with Horizon is how it uses history then throws in that extra twist, basically how bungaku shoujo does it with books. It just happens that because of the settings in horizon and the author's style one tends to need to throw in a lot more extra explanation to make it work.


Yea thats why I said within the anime itself you can grasp enough. Obviously the depth with which the twists are incoroporated int he Novel will be lost on anime only people.

Thats not even something I can consider as a loss going into it. What you never know, you never miss etc etc.


No the problem is that they're not even touching on it in the second season, lol. They've literally ignored it, which is a problem because basically everyone's motive is driven by these external factors that are never explained. People look like fucking idiots right now doing random shit that makes no sense whatsoever lol.


I havent started season 2 so Im not talking about that. I marathoned the first one when it ended, plan to do the same for S2, either way I doubt I'll be massively let down. Pretty sure checking up on the ranting here and what i know myself will be enough to connect the dots. I havent even seen it yet and I kinda already have a pretty good picture of the backdrop that you guys talked about with S2.


You are/were exactly in my boat. I marathoned the first season, thought it was good albeit a tad confusing. However I decided to start reading the LN but if I wasn't able to read Japanese, I doubt I'd bother reading it since only like half the chapters are translated on Bakatsuki - unless there's another source for it.

Other than that, I think many people will try and read some of the LN to make up for the anime - is my thoughts anyway.


Only half translated? Well, that decides it for me, I'm afraid. I'll just stick to the anime :/

Oh well, StrikerS starting to get really good now.

lol yeah I would read the novels too if they ever get full translations. Must be a real pain to translate them though. Probably won't bother with S2; I get uta rants every week instead

StrikerS gets progressively better so the first half or so is pretty boring. When I re-watched it, I just started somewhere in the middle lol. Chances are it'll get a movie so they should cut out a bunch of stuff and it'll be a lot superior. So like, 3-4 years from now, we'll have a Nanoha trilogy :D
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 14 2012 01:31 GMT
#45157
I've recently rewatched StrikerS myself, and even the training parts in the first half that are "boring" in comparison didn't bother me this time. I think the problem most people have is that StrikerS isn't A's. They came for more Nanoha and Fate, and instead got a bunch of new characters, with Nanoha and Fate having a reduced role (for the first half). But there really isn't anything wrong with Subaru or Teana (in fact, I like both of them), its just... They aren't Nanoha/Fate, so people go "wtf why should I care?"
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Dullahan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:53:36
August 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#45158
I think that's quite likely-

I accidentally watched StrikerS first (I remember this very well since I was stuck overnight at an airport due to a snowstorm and marathoned it overnight) and then went back for the first 2 seasons later. I think this might explain why I have more of an attachment to Vita and the trainees compared to Nanoha and Fate.

Edit:
@Maxie's comment about LB anime
+ Show Spoiler +
At least we don't have to worry about KyoAni Endless Eight-style trolling? XD

On a more serious note, maybe they could do 2 repetitions, putting half the girls in each time? I think there's a reasonable chance of at least 2 repetitions to show Rin's character development
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 14 2012 02:13 GMT
#45159
Anyone watching SAO (Sword Art Online)? It started in July so it's still very new, not sure if anyone has seen it, I think it's becoming popular pretty rapidly.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/11757/Sword_Art_Online
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:18:25
August 14 2012 02:17 GMT
#45160
On August 14 2012 11:13 WArped wrote:
Anyone watching SAO (Sword Art Online)? It started in July so it's still very new, not sure if anyone has seen it, I think it's becoming popular pretty rapidly.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/11757/Sword_Art_Online



Ya we've been discussing it for a while.

It's good but so far they've only done the side stories and that means they'll have to slightly compress the main story line.

Then were not sure how they are going to do the other volumes, IF they are doing it.

Now, it'd be great if they dedicated the rest of the season to the main story line then did a S2 and continued on with ALO. But I doubt that'll happen.
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