EPTOn August 13 2012 07:35 Southlight wrote:
Ah I see, but where is le raw @_@
Ah I see, but where is le raw @_@
I DL from friend's FTP... donno where he got it.
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ragz_gt
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I DL from friend's FTP... donno where he got it. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Southlight
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On August 13 2012 07:34 Heh_ wrote: ef stands for euphoric field. If you take the first letters of each episode's title, that's what it spells out. There is no one official meaning of ef afaik. It can be euphoric field, ebullient future, eternal feather, ever forever: all of which are songs played at some point in the anime/VN. I'm pretty sure there was one more but I can't remember it. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Skip~ everything~! The Sunrise way~! | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:11 Southlight wrote: Skip~ everything~! Skip~ everything~! The Sunrise way~! That doesn't sound too good. Oh well, maybe "ignorance is bliss" even applies to cases of not knowing the source material. Heh. | ||
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Owned Noob
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Heh_
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On August 13 2012 09:23 Owned Noob wrote: mmmmm has anyone read hyouka? can they actually finish the show within the next 4 episodes? im curious! I see what you did there. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:14 Maxie wrote: That doesn't sound too good. Oh well, maybe "ignorance is bliss" even applies to cases of not knowing the source material. Heh. Eca or I are going to have to explain the French/English conflict and how the re-enactment of succession has gone a bit haywire due to certain circumstances. There are also conspiracies afloat due to the way the dramatis personae in this conflict are intertwined, all of which tie back to the blood insignia that's left whenever someone of high position is eliminated. | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:40 Southlight wrote: Eca or I are going to have to explain the French/English conflict and how the re-enactment of succession has gone a bit haywire due to certain circumstances. There are also conspiracies afloat due to the way the dramatis personae in this conflict are intertwined, all of which tie back to the blood insignia that's left whenever someone of high position is eliminated. As I need subs, I haven't watched the episode yet - but that does sound pretty bad (and, for me, who has only watched the anime, quite confusing). On August 13 2012 09:23 Owned Noob wrote: mmmmm has anyone read hyouka? can they actually finish the show within the next 4 episodes? im curious! OH GOD PLEASE STOP BEING SO CURIOUS!! ...is what Oreki thinks every time Chitanda goes curious mode. And, well, I'm with him a bit there lol. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:50 Maxie wrote: As I need subs, I haven't watched the episode yet - but that does sound pretty bad (and, for me, who has only watched the anime, quite confusing). Still hoping that Eca will pick up the rope for once and explain it, but if not I'll try to bother later this week after it gets subbed. In any case: [20:46] <@Seki> horizon volumes tend to explain the "popular understanding" of history at the onset [20:47] <@Seki> in this case being about the french vs english war that ultimately ends around joan of arc [20:47] <@Seki> scarred explains a bit further with more detail about the reenactment of it, during the 300 swords scene [20:47] <@Seki> drake adds the french perspective regarding joan of arc during his table talk with marga [20:48] <@Seki> while futayo gives a bit of the now-exterminated amago perspective of the conflict [20:48] <@Seki> because the climax of the arc is england's execution of bloody mary [20:48] <@Seki> which sets off the armada war [20:48] <@Seki> which essentially ends spain's control over the seas, ya? [20:49] <@Seki> so during the 300 swords scene scarred explains some of the succession issues that are known to the english public, and how the interpretation of shit got messed around in an effort to appease the church (for historical reenactment) [20:50] <@Seki> in a scene in ep 6 she's supposed to go forward and explain some of the darker secrets of the succession and slips a certain name that you've seen a bit of [20:50] <@Seki> by which point you're sposed to have mostly an inkling of what happens at the *end* of ep 6 [20:50] <@Seki> and have a good idea of how everything's going to end [20:50] <@Seki> noap, skipped. They also abbreviated Toori's conversation, which is a very, very important aspect of both his character and Horizon's, given that it sets the tone for all of their actions thereafter (especially Horizon's, and this conversation is referred to in the next story arc). The tragedy of it all is that this thing ends up looking like a silly gakuen battle anime when it's such a rich, historical fiction set in a science fiction world. *sighs* | ||
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ragz_gt
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On August 13 2012 09:51 Southlight wrote: Still hoping that Eca will pick up the rope for once and explain it, but if not I'll try to bother later this week after it gets subbed. In any case: [20:46] <@Seki> horizon volumes tend to explain the "popular understanding" of history at the onset [20:47] <@Seki> in this case being about the french vs english war that ultimately ends around joan of arc [20:47] <@Seki> scarred explains a bit further with more detail about the reenactment of it, during the 300 swords scene [20:47] <@Seki> drake adds the french perspective regarding joan of arc during his table talk with marga [20:48] <@Seki> while futayo gives a bit of the now-exterminated amago perspective of the conflict [20:48] <@Seki> because the climax of the arc is england's execution of bloody mary [20:48] <@Seki> which sets off the armada war [20:48] <@Seki> which essentially ends spain's control over the seas, ya? [20:49] <@Seki> so during the 300 swords scene scarred explains some of the succession issues that are known to the english public, and how the interpretation of shit got messed around in an effort to appease the church (for historical reenactment) [20:50] <@Seki> in a scene in ep 6 she's supposed to go forward and explain some of the darker secrets of the succession and slips a certain name that you've seen a bit of [20:50] <@Seki> by which point you're sposed to have mostly an inkling of what happens at the *end* of ep 6 [20:50] <@Seki> and have a good idea of how everything's going to end [20:50] <@Seki> noap, skipped. They also abbreviated Toori's conversation, which is a very, very important aspect of both his character and Horizon's, given that it sets the tone for all of their actions thereafter (especially Horizon's, and this conversation is referred to in the next story arc). The tragedy of it all is that this thing ends up looking like a silly gakuen battle anime when it's such a rich, historical fiction set in a science fiction world. *sighs* Does that mean I should read the LN? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Why is this important? Because the strongest powers are Catholic at this point in history, while the place Musashi heads to next (MHHR/Francaise) is in the midst of a religious war. England's position is tenuous, which is why they perform many deeds "to appease the Church," such as attack Musashi to show their loyalty. This sets a precedent...  | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On August 13 2012 10:55 Southlight wrote: I dunno if I'd call them "light" novels, but if you find it interesting I'd recommend reading it, because they omit a lot of important conversations/lines that explain the world and the purposes that drive a lot of these people/nations. I don't think anything makes sense in the anime aside from what you learn from the surface, and a lot of these lack of explanations are going to just pile up from now on. For instance the strange "position" of England relative to the rest of the world is due to the strong Protestant influence (Spain + Rome is Catholic obv. but places such as Germany, or specifically Exagon Francaise, have heavy Protestant influences as well) and so on. Why is this important? Because the strongest powers are Catholic at this point in history, while the place Musashi heads to next (MHHR/Francaise) is in the midst of a religious war. England's position is tenuous, which is why they perform many deeds "to appease the Church," such as attack Musashi to show their loyalty. This sets a precedent... I actually havn't wanted S2 of it yet, I just watched all of S1 yesterday. Going to watch it today, but for most the of anime I barely had any idea what the main ideas were. Of course I know what the main, overall plot was - but I knew that they omitted a TON of the anime. I usually don't have time to watch the new seasons of anime on TV since I live in Japan, so I usually just watch it online. But reading the LN's seems like the right thing to do. I really enjoyed the overall plot and saw that there were LN's, then this discussion here. May go read it, it seems really, really interesting. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On August 13 2012 11:46 Southlight wrote: First volume is like 700 + 1100 pages, which comprises the first season. I think they did a decent job for the most part (which has made the second season all the more disappointing), but you do miss out a lot of the key motives and such. Oh my, I can't classify that as a LN then LOL. However, I did enjoy the first season. You say S2 is a let down? Hmmmm, I'll have to find out today. Do you know where to find the LN's translated or raw(assuming finding raws are harder)? I'd prefer not heading down to Akiba and trawling through all the book stores looking for it + saves money. xD | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: My distinction of LN vs novel tends to be based on the writing, not so much the length (a lot of novels are the length of LNs). I think Kawakami performs due diligence on topics being written on, has significantly deeper content, and has a writing style that's more befitting the term "novel," similar to most of Nishio Ishin's stuff. There's a reason why the latter is published by Kodansha, which is typically a novel-publishing company but happens to publish Nasu and Nishio. They just get lumped into "LNs" because they have an anime-style cover, but the content is quite different ;p | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [KnS] + I didn't quite expect there to be so many fucked up people in the story. Plus the way that people were killed was quite disgusting. Quite insane how the murders were all related to each other but was done by different people, with the only thing in common is madness and obsession over Kara no Shoujo. | ||
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Ushio
Canada868 Posts
On August 13 2012 15:24 Nemesis wrote: Just finished Kara no Shoujo myself. This is the most fucked up thing I have ever read lol. + Show Spoiler [KnS] + I didn't quite expect there to be so many fucked up people in the story. Plus the way that people were killed was quite disgusting. Quite insane how the murders were all related to each other but was done by different people, with the only thing in common is madness and obsession over Kara no Shoujo. + Show Spoiler [KnS] + Not to mention that the artist killed the model of the picture and his own son(in one of the endings). You've got to be pretty fucked up to murder with the motivation being a painting. Although Shinzo himself did say that it was pretty twisted. Seeing Yukari crying was such a heartache :'(, one of the most likeable characters imo | ||
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Dullahan
United States248 Posts
This is relevant ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XMOsa.jpg) Rough translation: Go from Start to Goal Fate: A person who does it seriously Hayate: A person who uses cheats Nanoha: FULL POWER TOTAL DESTRUCTION | ||
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