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On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard 
Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit.
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i hope to god no more other characters get a second fruit, or this going to become a naruto eyes crap..
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On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit.
And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely.
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On January 01 2012 19:49 GGitsJack wrote:
I only picked this up recently, and its seriously one of the best manga series I have read, first time I picked it up, I stayed up to like 1am reading to like chapter 230 (school days), and didn't read for a long time
Holidays come, and when I get home, I start reading from like 10pm->6am, doing around 100 chapters per day like that, and managed to catch up to 652, and MAN THIS SHIT IS AMAZING. It's nothing like Naruto which is pretty fcking boring right now, but One Piece always manages to keep you entertained, truth be told, this is the only manga that's nearly made me cry at two points of the story: Chopper backstory and the Norland backstory.
Can't fucking wait for the next chapters to come out, seriously, I miss not being able to just keep reading, and realizing birds are chirping outside already.
That is all.
I totally understand what you mean, I reread the skypia arc a few days ago while taking a bath with my ipad and during the kuragara, norland flashback I teared up abit 
awesome manga! unfortunately we still have more than a few week until next chapter.
On January 02 2012 01:42 RusHXceL wrote: ONE PIECE is the best anime ever/
 but I think most of the people will still get what you mean
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On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely.
Ace didn't know blackbeards abilities and pushed him to the edge right? I guess the blackbeard now is better than the blackbeard then though
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ONE PIECE is the best anime ever/
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On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely.
I don't think Blackbeard's power is the type haki works on. However, it's pretty obvious Luffy would decimate Blackbeard. Now that Luffy knows Blackbeard's power from Impel Down, he'll just run circles around him punching the crap out of him.
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On January 02 2012 04:21 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely. I don't think Blackbeard's power is the type haki works on. However, it's pretty obvious Luffy would decimate Blackbeard. Now that Luffy knows Blackbeard's power from Impel Down, he'll just run circles around him punching the crap out of him.
i believe blackbeard is like logia in terms of the power but unlike most when he uses it he can still be harmed. But on the flip side he's been out with his crew collecting powers.
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On January 02 2012 04:42 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 04:21 Dark_Chill wrote:On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely. I don't think Blackbeard's power is the type haki works on. However, it's pretty obvious Luffy would decimate Blackbeard. Now that Luffy knows Blackbeard's power from Impel Down, he'll just run circles around him punching the crap out of him. i believe blackbeard is like logia in terms of the power but unlike most when he uses it he can still be harmed. But on the flip side he's been out with his crew collecting powers.
Blackbeard's power cancels out the power of other fruits, meaning if he touches Luffy (or vise versa), Luffy would lose his rubber ability. So all Blackbeard has to do is grab Luffy and he wins.
Also Blackbeard has Whitebeards fruit too, so I doubt Luffy would even be able to beat Blackbeard right now, let alone decimate him.
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There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential.
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On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential.
I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF.
The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt.
Please correct me if I forgot someone though.
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On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though.
Why would you think one of them is secretly a fruituser?
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Shanks can swim! He grabbed Luffy!
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On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely.
Haki doesn't mean they will automatically win a fight, no more than having a 2nd devil fruit would mean he would automatically win a fight.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 02 2012 06:49 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though. Why would you think one of them is secretly a fruituser?
Because it's not proven that they are not, but even if they are you should name a few more because 3 is def. not " a lot"
On January 02 2012 06:51 merlin101 wrote:
Shanks can swim! He grabbed Luffy!
yup, you're probably right, that was 12 years ago though, but I also hope that Shanks isnt a DF user.
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On January 02 2012 05:15 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 04:42 semantics wrote:On January 02 2012 04:21 Dark_Chill wrote:On January 02 2012 01:14 Milkis wrote:On January 01 2012 19:58 Sentenal wrote:On January 01 2012 16:09 Milkis wrote:i reread thriller bark and it's pretty interesting how in the same arc you see both the full destruction capabilities of both kuma's nikyu fruit and blackbeard's darkness fruit :O i really think luffy needs that fruit to fight blackbeard Luffy being able to use Haki should be his trump card against all those previously seemingly invincible abilities. I don't think there is a need for another Devil Fruit. And Ace couldn't use Haki? that seems *very* unlikely. I don't think Blackbeard's power is the type haki works on. However, it's pretty obvious Luffy would decimate Blackbeard. Now that Luffy knows Blackbeard's power from Impel Down, he'll just run circles around him punching the crap out of him. i believe blackbeard is like logia in terms of the power but unlike most when he uses it he can still be harmed. But on the flip side he's been out with his crew collecting powers. Blackbeard's power cancels out the power of other fruits, meaning if he touches Luffy (or vise versa), Luffy would lose his rubber ability. So all Blackbeard has to do is grab Luffy and he wins. Also Blackbeard has Whitebeards fruit too, so I doubt Luffy would even be able to beat Blackbeard right now, let alone decimate him.
Unless blackbeard has developed his powers in that way, he can't simply suck the devil fruit out of anyone who touches him, i think he has to touch them. when considering gear second speed, Luffy would just have to start and not have some stupid manga speech before the fight. If Luffy does not let up, Blackbeard would not be able to catch Luffy. Of course, it's entirely possible that Blackbeard has greatly developed his powers and fighting prowess. If so, please disregard this opinion
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On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though.
Was Sengoku a confirmed devil fruit user, or was it just some weird-ass power?
Also, let's not forget most of Shanks crew, who may be just as strong as him. And then there's people on Blackbeard's team like Shiryu.
A bit off-topic here, but just out of curiosity, what would happen if a fishman ate a df?
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On January 02 2012 07:20 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though. Was Sengoku a confirmed devil fruit user, or was it just some weird-ass power? Also, let's not forget most of Shanks crew, who may be just as strong as him. And then there's people on Blackbeard's team like Shiryu. A bit off-topic here, but just out of curiosity, what would happen if a fishman ate a df?
You mean like Vander Decken?
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On January 02 2012 07:34 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:20 Dark_Chill wrote:On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though. Was Sengoku a confirmed devil fruit user, or was it just some weird-ass power? Also, let's not forget most of Shanks crew, who may be just as strong as him. And then there's people on Blackbeard's team like Shiryu. A bit off-topic here, but just out of curiosity, what would happen if a fishman ate a df? You mean like Vander Decken?
Completely forgot about that. Was he swimming or in water at all?
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On January 02 2012 07:38 Dark_Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:34 Sentenal wrote:On January 02 2012 07:20 Dark_Chill wrote:On January 02 2012 06:34 AsnSensation wrote:On January 02 2012 06:24 Forumite wrote:
There´s too much talk about powers. Whitebeard was a beast because of his haki, skill, toughness and strength, his fruit only increased his offensive power. There are a lot of powerfull people without fruits, and many weak fruitusers who are not good enough to use their powers to their full potential. I used to believe that, too and deep inside hoped before the war arc that WB was introduced as the strongest without a DF. But if we really think about it who is there among the top top tier fighters who doesnt have a df? The first that come to my mind are Mihawk, Shanks and of course Garp but for none of them it's confirmed that they don't have a DF. The only person I can think of as a confirmed no df-user is Rayleigh because he was swimming through the calm belt. Please correct me if I forgot someone though. Was Sengoku a confirmed devil fruit user, or was it just some weird-ass power? Also, let's not forget most of Shanks crew, who may be just as strong as him. And then there's people on Blackbeard's team like Shiryu. A bit off-topic here, but just out of curiosity, what would happen if a fishman ate a df? You mean like Vander Decken? Completely forgot about that. Was he swimming or in water at all?
He was a dead-weight underwater just like all other DF users
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