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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-03 03:54:05
April 03 2026 03:51 GMT
#33261
On April 03 2026 11:07 evilfatsh1t wrote:
my question is if imu is obviously a lunarian then why did the wg hunt down other lunarians

It's potentially "i get to be the only special one and no competition" mindset. Or maybe something like "if you arent with me then you are against me" or some other reasons. Plenty of possibilities after all human ambition, cruelty and paranoia can only go far.

It's not unheard in fiction where a tyrant figures dervives from a race who got wiped and it was the tyrants own doing like i can remember one example from Cosmere which I wont specify which one but there was a character there who kinda started playing eugenics with his own kind so that he has competition in the future. Not unusual for immortal figures too to play that path in the longterm
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 03 2026 05:26 GMT
#33262
I don't think it's confirmed yet since we don't see a fire on his back, he doesn't have wings in his base form, and the skin could just be shaded because he's red in his hybrid form, as opposed to a natural pigmentation.

What I'm wondering is where did his crown go after he transformed? He teleported with it. Did he leave it at the castle? Could this be a projection?
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
April 03 2026 08:53 GMT
#33263
i think he does have wings in his base form. one of the last panels of the chapter show his full silhouette and he definitely has wings there. hes also shown some immunity to fire iirc when he met sabo. 3 characteristics of lunarian people if you include his dark skin too
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9589 Posts
April 05 2026 12:22 GMT
#33264
Holy shitsnacks, Imu face/body reveal before GTA VI ! Is it just me or does Imu kinda look like a random arc villain from Fairy Tail? A bit disappointed with the initial look, lol...
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 06 2026 07:33 GMT
#33265
On April 05 2026 21:22 Latham wrote:
Holy shitsnacks, Imu face/body reveal before GTA VI ! Is it just me or does Imu kinda look like a random arc villain from Fairy Tail? A bit disappointed with the initial look, lol...

Yeah his design looks out of place. Ever since Wano there's been a strange stylistic shift in One Piece. I can't quite put my finger on it but it doesn't feel "piratey" anymore. It reminds me of the transition from old Pokemon generations to new ones where they stop looking like weird animals and turn into biomechanical weapons.
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Personally, I always imagined him as an old wizard type character similar to this guy:
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That would give him more gravitas and make him feel more ancient, but alas.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
April 09 2026 15:07 GMT
#33266
His current form looks like the "hybrid" or base form per logia. We do know Imu can go bigger than the 5 elders which are all giant sized by proportions.

Also idk if this was talked about alot is that Luffy is called Joyboy by Imu obviously but BB is called "Davy Jones" by him as well. That's interesting
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
April 11 2026 00:30 GMT
#33267
On April 10 2026 00:07 goody153 wrote:
His current form looks like the "hybrid" or base form per logia. We do know Imu can go bigger than the 5 elders which are all giant sized by proportions.

Also idk if this was talked about alot is that Luffy is called Joyboy by Imu obviously but BB is called "Davy Jones" by him as well. That's interesting


Bro is so traumatized anyone who awakens the Nika fruit is Joyboy.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 19 2026 19:13 GMT
#33268
Why is he suddenly 20 feet tall? I don't understand Oda's obsession with making absurdly large characters. Kinda looks ridiculous when a normal sized character is fighting a giant. How are they not crushed instantaneously? Shonen logic...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 20 2026 14:22 GMT
#33269
On April 20 2026 04:13 Hyperbola wrote:
Why is he suddenly 20 feet tall? I don't understand Oda's obsession with making absurdly large characters. Kinda looks ridiculous when a normal sized character is fighting a giant. How are they not crushed instantaneously? Shonen logic...

His transformation last chapter made him huge. He was sitting on top of a castle that is big enough to fit Harald and transformed Loki and wasn't absolutely tiny. Before transforming he was tall but now he's Kaido-size.

I think he mostly does it because tall = strong, threatening is very easy and convenient.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-23 10:04:08
April 23 2026 10:02 GMT
#33270
On April 20 2026 04:13 Hyperbola wrote:
Why is he suddenly 20 feet tall? I don't understand Oda's obsession with making absurdly large characters. Kinda looks ridiculous when a normal sized character is fighting a giant. How are they not crushed instantaneously? Shonen logic...

You are talking about a story where the main character is rubberman.

And where people casually tank and block bullets. Hell characters who jump midair is a thing and if science is correct you literally need so much energy to do that that. You should NEVER think about this story same as real life physics

On April 20 2026 23:22 Elentos wrote:
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On April 20 2026 04:13 Hyperbola wrote:
Why is he suddenly 20 feet tall? I don't understand Oda's obsession with making absurdly large characters. Kinda looks ridiculous when a normal sized character is fighting a giant. How are they not crushed instantaneously? Shonen logic...


I think he mostly does it because tall = strong, threatening is very easy and convenient.

Yeah most likely. It's a kid's show as per oda's intention (he did say this himself multiple times the target audience are kids . not adults despite likely adults buying this shit more)

It's very easy to create the intended effect with small heroes for underdog effect and big enemies for intimidation. Ez psychological factor
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
April 23 2026 20:44 GMT
#33271
Oh my. I always thought the Imu / Mihawk connection was a meme but now it's pretty cut and dry. I guess he's also a Nerona? So Shanks vs Mihawk was literally two world nobles cosplaying as pirates and claiming to be swordsmen prodigies but were really just using their patented family techniques.

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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
April 24 2026 01:24 GMT
#33272
On April 24 2026 05:44 Hyperbola wrote:
Oh my. I always thought the Imu / Mihawk connection was a meme but now it's pretty cut and dry. I guess he's also a Nerona? So Shanks vs Mihawk was literally two world nobles cosplaying as pirates and claiming to be swordsmen prodigies but were really just using their patented family techniques.

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I have heard of the Imu / Mihawk lineage theory before but I always thought it was crack theory based on eye design.

Oh boy they could not be more relevant now
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
613 Posts
April 24 2026 06:08 GMT
#33273
mihawk has always had a lot of dracula motifs
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18728 Posts
April 25 2026 08:26 GMT
#33274
Some kind of forsaken son huh
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
April 28 2026 16:43 GMT
#33275
That's a great catch, just doesn't seem like a coincidence considering that Oda is very keen on details.

So many questions about Mihawk's background now!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
April 29 2026 15:04 GMT
#33276
On April 29 2026 01:43 herMan wrote:
That's a great catch, just doesn't seem like a coincidence considering that Oda is very keen on details.

So many questions about Mihawk's background now!

We know he had distrust over the WG like Croc which might be clue
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
May 12 2026 22:00 GMT
#33277
Another god was introduced last chapter: Zaza the rain goddess. We essentially have 4 confirmed god fruits: Sun (Luffy), Devil (Imu), War (Loki), and Rain (probably Dragon). The depiction of the rain goddess looks a lot like Vivi, who in turn looks a lot like Lily. The implication is that Lily was also the rain goddess of her time, and that Vivi will become the new rain goddess of the present. Also, it looks like Dragon is the current holder of the ZaZa fruit so he's probably going to have to die for Vivi to inherit it. I'm thinking that will probably be the culmination of the Revolutionaries vs. World Nobles plotline that's going on right now behind the scenes. Don't worry, Sabo is already destined to take over his position as the leader.

Also, since we're up to 4 god fruits and will likely get more, I think god fruits should be a separate category altogether. The current ranking is:

God Fruit > Mythical Zoan > Logia > Zoan = Paramecia
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44285 Posts
May 13 2026 03:03 GMT
#33278
On May 13 2026 07:00 Hyperbola wrote:
Another god was introduced last chapter: Zaza the rain goddess. We essentially have 4 confirmed god fruits: Sun (Luffy), Devil (Imu), War (Loki), and Rain (probably Dragon). The depiction of the rain goddess looks a lot like Vivi, who in turn looks a lot like Lily. The implication is that Lily was also the rain goddess of her time, and that Vivi will become the new rain goddess of the present. Also, it looks like Dragon is the current holder of the ZaZa fruit so he's probably going to have to die for Vivi to inherit it. I'm thinking that will probably be the culmination of the Revolutionaries vs. World Nobles plotline that's going on right now behind the scenes. Don't worry, Sabo is already destined to take over his position as the leader.

Also, since we're up to 4 god fruits and will likely get more, I think god fruits should be a separate category altogether. The current ranking is:

God Fruit > Mythical Zoan > Logia > Zoan = Paramecia

Apparently the 4 gods are mentioned during the Skypeia arc
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