EPTI'm just saying that it's not a big deal, everyone is going crazy about a guy, who's a pussy, not picking up his weapon when he was in panic mode.
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Spaiku
Spain1114 Posts
I'm just saying that it's not a big deal, everyone is going crazy about a guy, who's a pussy, not picking up his weapon when he was in panic mode. | ||
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LOveRH
United States88 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:00 Spaiku wrote: Agree that it would help him to have the dagger. I'm just saying that it's not a big deal, everyone is going crazy about a guy, who's a pussy, not picking up his weapon when he was in panic mode. Well, if i am in panic mode the first thing i do is look for weapons to protect myself because i would be scared ill be attacked again. Not run away weaponless... | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On May 21 2013 23:52 Bash wrote: Yeah a weapon that can kill semi-immortal beings sure doesn't look like a big deal I'm sure Sam can count on tripping over scores of them on his live-or-die adventure. He could. He found the dagger in a burrowed ranger stash full of dragonglass/obsidian It's probably still where he left it, at the fist of the first men. ( Sam haters: same was smart enough to take one, while the other 2 rangers didn't) Season 2, episode 8, 25 minutes Thinking about this, it also kinda points out that historic rangers knew about the properties. Why would they stash it if not. And if so why aren't dragonglass weapons known to them these days? Every historic event seems to be written down. Something so important should in books in the castle black library that Sam read, but you would also think that Mormont and Maester Aemon knew about it? Or even whole westeros? Seems like a bit of a plot hole, or I guess somehow they lost a lot of knowledge over the centuries. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 21 2013 23:52 Zandar wrote: Everyone who thinks Sam is stupid for leaving the dagger just totally ignores the biggest reason. He's in total panic mode. A white walker just attacked him. And while he died, there is still an insane amount of birds about to attack him. People often don't think clearly in a situation where their lives are at stake. Instincts take over, in this case the reflex to run. You dont think you'd say "SHIT THAT WAS FUCKING CRAZY I HAVE THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN KILL THESE GUYS" ... He was standing next to the fucking dagger, not like he had to even walk, he had to bend the fuck down... There is no competent human being that has any intelligence that would simply not bend down to pick up the dagger then run in fear. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
I think most likely in that situation, after being shit scared that a white walker is there and even more scared after you kill it, you'd obviously get the fuck out of there. Maybe after grabbing Gilli and running passed it you'd remember, "oh shit the dagger!" but then good luck running into 1000 ravens | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:14 Hitch-22 wrote: You dont think you'd say "SHIT THAT WAS FUCKING CRAZY I HAVE THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN KILL THESE GUYS" ... He was standing next to the fucking dagger, not like he had to even walk, he had to bend the fuck down... There is no competent human being that has any intelligence that would simply not bend down to pick up the dagger then run in fear. If you have the time to stop and think "SHIT THAT WAS FUCKING CRAZY I HAVE THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN KILL THESE GUYS" you would lie dead on the floor with 1000s of birds attacking you. Sam being smart did the right thing: RUN!!!! edit: removed me being childish | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:12 Zandar wrote: He could. He found the dagger in a burrowed ranger stash full of dragonglass/obsidian It's probably still where he left it, at the fist of the first men. ( Sam haters: same was smart enough to take one, while the other 2 rangers didn't) Season 2, episode 8, 25 minutes Thinking about this, it also kinda points out that historic rangers knew about the properties. Why would they stash it if not. And if so why aren't dragonglass weapons known to them these days? Every historic event seems to be written down. Something so important should in books in the castle black library that Sam read, but you would also think that Mormont and Maester Aemon knew about it? Or even whole westeros? Seems like a bit of a plot hole, or I guess somehow they lost a lot of knowledge over the centuries. its actually less plausible for so much of history from the andals, the first men, the children of the forest, the whitewalkers etc. to still be around the andals conquered westeros 8000 (!) years ago. what events in real history from 6000bc are still well known? actually the timeline being way too long is one of my main gripes with the "realism" in the GoT universe. seems unnecessary as well, kinda like a 13yo just saying huge numbers to impress you. basically we have a few tidbits of history from 8000 and 6000 years ago, and then newer history that basically starts with the targaryen invasion 400 years ago. would seem more plausible to cut out a couple of thousand years from the time we dont know anything about... or maybe ppl in westeros are just making up numbers anyways - how long is a year even, when seasons arent constant? On May 22 2013 00:06 LOveRH wrote: Well, if i am in panic mode the first thing i do is look for weapons to protect myself because i would be scared ill be attacked again. Not run away weaponless... so how many times in your life have you been in panic mode? let me guess? NEVER fear and panic cancel thinking. trust me, you act very stupidly when you are running away in panic... | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:06 LOveRH wrote: Well, if i am in panic mode the first thing i do is look for weapons to protect myself because i would be scared ill be attacked again. Not run away weaponless... Yes, I am sure you experienced the same or similar thing to Sam and now you are here telling us about it... oh the brave internet warriors... | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:06 LOveRH wrote: Well, if i am in panic mode the first thing i do is look for weapons to protect myself because i would be scared ill be attacked again. Not run away weaponless... That's not panic mode. That's being under attack, scared, but still in normal brain mode. Panic can create a shutdown of feelings—so you’re in a state of shock. In this state , you cannot think clearly, or make good responses, choices and decisions. In panic, we do not retain information, absorb what we hear, or accurately assess the situation. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
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summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
the hound will give back arya - imagine cathelines joy. she barely had any lines to speak in ep3 so far... robs uncle will marry the fraer girl rob will attack casterly rock - not even sure if that will still happen in season 3 we will see what the leech-curse does to goffrey, rob and the ironborn king theon will prolly be tortured to death, and maybe his torturer will reveal his identity before he dies (reese bolton being my best guess) margaery will marry goffry - i actually think goffry will die before this season is over, there will be some clash between lannister and tyrell cripple stark will find jon snow - that storyline has been sooooo slow in ep 3, nothing is happening there dany will invade the next slaver city and might get a new boyfriend - tho how can anyone ever live up the KHAL DROGO? SO PUMPED FOR EP 9 AND 10 | ||
KwarK
United States44195 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:12 Zandar wrote: He could. He found the dagger in a burrowed ranger stash full of dragonglass/obsidian It's probably still where he left it, at the fist of the first men. ( Sam haters: same was smart enough to take one, while the other 2 rangers didn't) Season 2, episode 8, 25 minutes Thinking about this, it also kinda points out that historic rangers knew about the properties. Why would they stash it if not. And if so why aren't dragonglass weapons known to them these days? Every historic event seems to be written down. Something so important should in books in the castle black library that Sam read, but you would also think that Mormont and Maester Aemon knew about it? Or even whole westeros? Seems like a bit of a plot hole, or I guess somehow they lost a lot of knowledge over the centuries. It's been thousands of years since it's been needed, most of the nights watch didn't even believe in the white walkers. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:48 Hitch-22 wrote: Zandar, king psychology explaining how realistic, smart individuals handle panic situations. Not going for the dagger is a absolutely fucking stupid move... IF he ran and then RAN BACK for the dagger like a stutter step then yeah, he forget then went "oh yeah fuck I'll die if I don't have a weapon in the wilderness" then totally reasonable but you can't excuse your brain functions in split second situations after the split second is over... Plain and simple he was a retard and if you were to do the same then you'd also be branded an imbecile not capable of picking up the only blade that can save your life against one. I'm not king psychology. That was a copy paste from a psychology site to help my argument with some facts. Lets assume you are right, the panic is only a split second and he is not panicking anymore. He comes out of panic and sees 1000s of birds ready to attack him. (which you keep ignoring) And in such a case you would think about a knife first? Probably not. Your life is more important at that moment. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:48 Hitch-22 wrote: Zandar, king psychology explaining how realistic, smart individuals handle panic situations. Not going for the dagger is a absolutely fucking stupid move... IF he ran and then RAN BACK for the dagger like a stutter step then yeah, he forget then went "oh yeah fuck I'll die if I don't have a weapon in the wilderness" then totally reasonable but you can't excuse your brain functions in split second situations after the split second is over... Plain and simple he was a retard and if you were to do the same then you'd also be branded an imbecile not capable of picking up the only blade that can save your life against one. Holy please stop. Sam is already characterized as a bumbing coward who had never raised any form of weapon in his life before joining the Watch. He is now the first person in eons to kill a semi-immortal being that many didn't even know existed still, and thousands of crows are now chasing him after he just shattered a semi-immortal being in the middle of the fucking North beyond the wall. The first thing I would think is "fucking run", not sit down and tactically assess my situation. I can only assume you've never been in any form of hard or panicked situation in your life. A few weeks ago I backed into someones driver side door, heard a door crumble, and heard a girl screaming. I went into panic mode. My hands stopped working. I couldn't figure out how to work my car door. I forgot where my phone was (it was in my pocket, took me 2 minutes to find it). I thought I just fucking destroyed this girl with my spare tire and I was freaking the fuck out. Luckily the girl was completely fine but nonetheless my point stands. That's a fucking minor situation compared to shattering a semi-immortal being while being chased by thousands of crows. You don't think clearly when you're in panic fight or flight mode. Stop assuming this is a game of starcraft where you can take a moments break in your comfy wheel chair and think of your next moves. Also, didn't he find a whole bag of the daggers? | ||
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0x64
Finland4630 Posts
On May 21 2013 23:27 Zandar wrote: Lol, it took me a while to see who this actor is in the series. ![[image loading]](http://trialx.com/curetalk/wp-content/blogs.dir/7/files/2011/04/gcelebrities/Conleth_Hill-3.jpg) If I hide the moustache and the hair, the eyes look like King Robert but who knows :D maybe its Danaerys! | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Point being, Sam leaving behind a knife when fearing for his fucking life (white walker, over 9000 angry birds.) is not that unreasonable. | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On May 22 2013 00:55 Zandar wrote: I'm not king psychology. That was a copy paste from a psychology site to help my argument with some facts. Lets assume you are right, the panic is only a split second and he is not panicking anymore. He comes out of panic and sees 1000s of birds ready to attack him. (which you keep ignoring) And in such a case you would think about a knife first? Probably not. Your life is more important at that moment. Come on dude. I have a ton of real world, practical experience with picking up magical weapons EVEN IN extreme circumstances. For example in Baldurs Gate I and II, I picked up magical weapons all the time and it was easy. Same for all the Diablos. I can't believe Sam didn't click on that dagger before running away, I totally would have if I was in that situation. So fucking stupid. | ||
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