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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:53:31
May 21 2013 14:27 GMT
#17201
Lol, it took me a while to see who this actor is in the series.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 21 2013 14:31 GMT
#17202
On May 21 2013 23:27 Zandar wrote:
Lol, it took me a while to see who this actor is in the series.

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"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:35:14
May 21 2013 14:31 GMT
#17203
On May 21 2013 22:48 LOveRH wrote:
I am so pissed after watching the new episode of Game of Thrones last night. WHY THE HELL DID SAM NOT PICK UP THE DAGGER? I seriously wanted to jump in there and slap him in the face. Jesus christ, that one act made me so mad.


Because like 10k ravens were about to attack him.

Not scary? Watch Hitchcock's "The Birds"
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 21 2013 14:34 GMT
#17204
On May 21 2013 20:31 Hoodlum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 20:11 crappen wrote:
On May 21 2013 19:43 Zexion wrote:
Oh crappen, you're just a fatcist!


It may seems so, but actually I dont mind him being fat at all, I have rarely met any fat person behave so cliche dumb as many fat people in this show. It's just how the universe of GoT is written I guess, where fat people is simply dumb, afraid of everything and loves food. Exception seems to be Varys or fat king(s).
But hey, I just think GRRM means it in a funny way regardless of my sensitive reaction ^^


But everyone just told you, Sam is one of the smartest characters in the show. He is well read and retains information. He is just a coward, he was raised with fear and disgust so he carries himself as a disgusting person.


Hehe, Sam one of the smartest persons? LOL! I realize smart is something that seems to be very subjective. Tyrion, tywin, varys, and Littlefingers are smart. Sam may be well informed, but he is simply too coward to make any smart decisions, or put that vast array of information he has in his head, to any use.

Fear stops everyone from being smart.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
May 21 2013 14:34 GMT
#17205
On May 21 2013 23:31 Hitch-22 wrote:
picture not showing


oh crap, imdb file rights legal stuff in other countries I think
added another one.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 21 2013 14:37 GMT
#17206
On May 21 2013 23:34 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 20:31 Hoodlum wrote:
On May 21 2013 20:11 crappen wrote:
On May 21 2013 19:43 Zexion wrote:
Oh crappen, you're just a fatcist!


It may seems so, but actually I dont mind him being fat at all, I have rarely met any fat person behave so cliche dumb as many fat people in this show. It's just how the universe of GoT is written I guess, where fat people is simply dumb, afraid of everything and loves food. Exception seems to be Varys or fat king(s).
But hey, I just think GRRM means it in a funny way regardless of my sensitive reaction ^^


But everyone just told you, Sam is one of the smartest characters in the show. He is well read and retains information. He is just a coward, he was raised with fear and disgust so he carries himself as a disgusting person.


Hehe, Sam one of the smartest persons? LOL! I realize smart is something that seems to be very subjective. Tyrion, tywin, varys, and Littlefingers are smart. Sam may be well informed, but he is simply too coward to make any smart decisions, or put that vast array of information he has in his head, to any use.

Fear stops everyone from being smart.


Sometimes being hesitatnt and cautious -is- being smart. He's still alive unlike a lot of the other crows.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 21 2013 14:37 GMT
#17207
I googled now but just by seeing the pic I had guessed Robert Baratheon lol.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:41:51
May 21 2013 14:38 GMT
#17208
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
May 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#17209
On May 21 2013 23:27 Zandar wrote:
Lol, it took me a while to see who this actor is in the series.

[image loading]


[image loading]


Damn,, i had to cheat
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:43:24
May 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#17210
On May 21 2013 22:10 Spykiller wrote:
To the guy who bashed me for my Dragon-rider theory earlier: KA-POW in your face. The Onion Knight reads about the dragons being ridden.


Arya also told Tywin that one of the female targaryens who rode one of the historic dragons was an idol of her.
When she was working in Harrenhall as his room servant.

En also Viserys said the brave men didn't fight the dragons, they rode them. When in bath with the slavegirl handmaiden of his sister.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
LOveRH
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
May 21 2013 14:40 GMT
#17211
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


Well all the Watch has is men with SWORDS which apparently DON'T WORK. So yeah, a dagger that can roflstomp a white walker seems like a big deal. Maybe they could learn what it is and get more or make more.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:46:48
May 21 2013 14:42 GMT
#17212
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


No but I bet you if he walks into another white walker it'd be nice to have... Are you suggesting leaving your only weapon to kill a magical enemy in the snowy ground that you'll never see again is a good idea? Even slightly smart? No it's a fucking stupid scene and it goes against everything "book smart" Sam is, he may be a coward but he's not retarded and he understands magic dagger (or obsedian dagger, same diff for the purpose) to kill magic enemy is a good thing to have; Sam the stupid would leave the dagger, average joe the mediocre intelligence would pick up the dagger so either Sam is incredibly stupid (dumber then the average guy who understands killing magical badass's is a good thing) or the scene and written log of Sam in this scene is obscene.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
May 21 2013 14:51 GMT
#17213
On May 21 2013 23:42 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


No but I bet you if he walks into another white walker it'd be nice to have... Are you suggesting leaving your only weapon to kill a magical enemy in the snowy ground that you'll never see again is a good idea? Even slightly smart? No it's a fucking stupid scene and it goes against everything "book smart" Sam is, he may be a coward but he's not retarded and he understands magic dagger (or obsedian dagger, same diff for the purpose) to kill magic enemy is a good thing to have; Sam the stupid would leave the dagger, average joe the mediocre intelligence would pick up the dagger so either Sam is incredibly stupid (dumber then the average guy who understands killing magical badass's is a good thing) or the scene and written log of Sam in this scene is obscene.

Or maybe the Dagger broke after he stabbed the white walker? Has any one considered this as a possibility? I don't really remember much from the scene so I can't say whether or not it did, just throwing it out there as an idea?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
May 21 2013 14:52 GMT
#17214
On May 21 2013 23:42 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


No but I bet you if he walks into another white walker it'd be nice to have... Are you suggesting leaving your only weapon to kill a magical enemy in the snowy ground that you'll never see again is a good idea? Even slightly smart? No it's a fucking stupid scene and it goes against everything "book smart" Sam is, he may be a coward but he's not retarded and he understands magic dagger (or obsedian dagger, same diff for the purpose) to kill magic enemy is a good thing to have; Sam the stupid would leave the dagger, average joe the mediocre intelligence would pick up the dagger so either Sam is incredibly stupid (dumber then the average guy who understands killing magical badass's is a good thing) or the scene and written log of Sam in this scene is obscene.


Everyone who thinks Sam is stupid for leaving the dagger just totally ignores the biggest reason.
He's in total panic mode. A white walker just attacked him.
And while he died, there is still an insane amount of birds about to attack him.

People often don't think clearly in a situation where their lives are at stake.
Instincts take over, in this case the reflex to run.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 14:53:18
May 21 2013 14:52 GMT
#17215
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?


Yeah a weapon that can kill semi-immortal beings sure doesn't look like a big deal I'm sure Sam can count on tripping over scores of them on his live-or-die adventure.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
May 21 2013 14:52 GMT
#17216
On May 21 2013 23:40 LOveRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


Well all the Watch has is men with SWORDS which apparently DON'T WORK. So yeah, a dagger that can roflstomp a white walker seems like a big deal. Maybe they could learn what it is and get more or make more.

He already knows it's dragonglass, Sam said it when they found it in the snow.

Makes no difference to have that dagger or not, he's still going to die if he gets surrounded by White Walkers. The knowledge that dragonglass kills WW is the only valuable thing.
LOveRH
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
May 21 2013 14:53 GMT
#17217
On May 21 2013 23:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:42 Hitch-22 wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


No but I bet you if he walks into another white walker it'd be nice to have... Are you suggesting leaving your only weapon to kill a magical enemy in the snowy ground that you'll never see again is a good idea? Even slightly smart? No it's a fucking stupid scene and it goes against everything "book smart" Sam is, he may be a coward but he's not retarded and he understands magic dagger (or obsedian dagger, same diff for the purpose) to kill magic enemy is a good thing to have; Sam the stupid would leave the dagger, average joe the mediocre intelligence would pick up the dagger so either Sam is incredibly stupid (dumber then the average guy who understands killing magical badass's is a good thing) or the scene and written log of Sam in this scene is obscene.

Or maybe the Dagger broke after he stabbed the white walker? Has any one considered this as a possibility? I don't really remember much from the scene so I can't say whether or not it did, just throwing it out there as an idea?


No i don't think it did. After the guy just crumbled and the dagger fell on the ground.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 21 2013 14:53 GMT
#17218
If you watch the eyes the answer is so obvious >< .
11 years and counting- TL #680
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 21 2013 14:53 GMT
#17219
Or he just panicked. Though they could've made a bigger deal out of him losing it in the scene.
LOveRH
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
May 21 2013 14:55 GMT
#17220
On May 21 2013 23:52 Spaiku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 23:40 LOveRH wrote:
On May 21 2013 23:38 Spaiku wrote:
Why is everyone making a big deal about not picking up the dagger?

Do you think one dagger is going to defeat an army of white walkers or that they can make magic copies of the dagger for the entire night's watch?


Well all the Watch has is men with SWORDS which apparently DON'T WORK. So yeah, a dagger that can roflstomp a white walker seems like a big deal. Maybe they could learn what it is and get more or make more.

He already knows it's dragonglass, Sam said it when they found it in the snow.

Makes no difference to have that dagger or not, he's still going to die if he gets surrounded by White Walkers. The knowledge that dragonglass kills WW is the only valuable thing.


Oh Dragonglass... well still. Having it will help his chances more then not having it. It's only logic, if you want to survive have a weapon with you. The only other weapon he had was his sword and it shattered.
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