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Excludos
Norway8270 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:05 jinorazi wrote: i think sam will become a badass character down the road. he isnt a fighter so i think he'll do something in different way, perhaps breed ravens that can travel at the speed of light ^_^ Mormont said he wasnt allowed to die. There must be a reason. He's an intellectual and shit, if he dies no one will be able to write down what happened to them. Is old Mormont ( the one who just died at Craster's ) the father of the exiled one whos hanging with Daenerys? good stuff. cant wait til next sunday! | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:16 Excludos wrote: What a sick sick episode! Anyone still doubting that Emilia Clarke is a seriously good actor? Yes. On April 23 2013 03:21 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Is old Mormont ( the one who just died at Craster's ) the father of the exiled one whos hanging with Daenerys? Yes. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
Is old Mormont ( the one who just died at Craster's ) the father of the exiled one whos hanging with Daenerys? good stuff. cant wait til next sunday! Yes he is. He said so in season 1 when he gave his sword (longclaw) to Jon for protecting him against the undead guy. | ||
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sanddbox_sc2
United States173 Posts
What's the deal with the Sansa/Marg thing? Sansa's obviously been manipulated, but I don't really understand all the family relationships enough to know what the implications of her marrying Loras actually are. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:21 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Mormont said he wasnt allowed to die. There must be a reason. He's an intellectual and shit, if he dies no one will be able to write down what happened to them. Is old Mormont ( the one who just died at Craster's ) the father of the exiled one whos hanging with Daenerys? good stuff. cant wait til next sunday! yes, i believe jorah is mormont's son. On April 23 2013 03:28 sanddbox_sc2 wrote: I feel like since Dany is doing so well she's doomed to fail, but who knows. I'm definitely pulling for her. What's the deal with the Sansa/Marg thing? Sansa's obviously been manipulated, but I don't really understand all the family relationships enough to know what the implications of her marrying Loras actually are. with reckon and brann "gone", if robb dies, sansa is the heir to winterfell and therefore who has sansa, has the key to winterfell. | ||
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NPF
Canada1635 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:28 sanddbox_sc2 wrote: I feel like since Dany is doing so well she's doomed to fail, but who knows. I'm definitely pulling for her. What's the deal with the Sansa/Marg thing? Sansa's obviously been manipulated, but I don't really understand all the family relationships enough to know what the implications of her marrying Loras actually are. Basically Tyrell is one of the 7 great families. If Robb dies, and since Bran and Rickson are "dead" the Stark line falls on Sansa first then Arya. If Sansa marries Loras, then Loras becomes more or less the head of the North, so the Tyrells then have a tie to the North. I would imagine something like him, or his kids need to take the Stark name maybe to be honnest, but look the Tyrells are lining up to be attached to the king of Westoros and a third great house, actually 4 of the great houses since Jeoffrey is a Barantheon by name. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:16 Excludos wrote: What a sick sick episode! Anyone still doubting that Emilia Clarke is a seriously good actor? Her acting was much less of a problem than the lines given to her character. Her dialogue for season 2 was pretty bad and many of the lines she was asked to say were terrible. Scenes like telling the rulers of Qarth that they need to be let into the city or starve to death, then after they refuse, threatening to come back when her dragons are grown and burn the city down. Good luck doing that after starving to death... And good luck trying to find an actress that won't make dialogue like that sound terrible. She spent most of season 2 yelling idle threats. Season 3, she is much less yell random things in anger, and much more intelligent leader who actually has a plan. So obviously season 3 has been much better. | ||
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Visas
Turkey119 Posts
+ Everytime I see natalie dormer,i feel like i will definitely be able to bang her someday. Most Curious | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8270 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:34 karazax wrote: Her acting was much less of a problem than the lines given to her character. Her dialogue for season 2 was pretty bad and many of the lines she was asked to say were terrible. Scenes like telling the rulers of Qarth that they need to be let into the city or starve to death, then after they refuse, threatening to come back when her dragons are grown and burn the city down. Good luck doing that after starving to death... And good luck trying to find an actress that won't make dialogue like that sound terrible. She spent most of season 2 yelling idle threats. Season 3, she is much less yell random things in anger, and much more intelligent leader who actually has a plan. So obviously season 3 has been much better. I completely agree. Daenerys storyline in S2 was a tad on the poor side. Many people in this thread blamed the actor. After the last episode, that is no longer valid imo. | ||
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sanddbox_sc2
United States173 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:32 NPF wrote: Basically Tyrell is one of the 7 great families. If Robb dies, and since Bran and Rickson are "dead" the Stark line falls on Sansa first then Arya. If Sansa marries Loras, then Loras becomes more or less the head of the North, so the Tyrells then have a tie to the North. I would imagine something like him, or his kids need to take the Stark name maybe to be honnest, but look the Tyrells are lining up to be attached to the king of Westoros and a third great house, actually 4 of the great houses since Jeoffrey is a Barantheon by name. Ah, I see. They seem to be hinting that Joffrey won't be living much longer, but maybe I'm wrong and he'll stay alive but basically just be a puppet of Margaery (is that how you spell it)? On the other hand, as cunning as Marg is I think even if she takes over she'll eventually be stomped by either Dany or Stannis. I think the red lady will probably just keep getting more powerful, so maybe she'll be Dany's strongest opposition. Then again, new stuff comes into the story so often that it's basically impossible to predict anything. | ||
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BillGates
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:37 Shelke14 wrote: Haha, I kind of figured my opinion would not be exactly a popular one but after reading your guys thoughts on it, I understand that maybe I am missing the point of the story line. More or less I guess I am just bothered that they had a chance to show the fight of the WW vs the nights watch but didnt and just let the story turn into a bit of a drama fest. (thats how I see what happened). Obviously there story line is about to hit a major shit storm and be very important because they are the thing that stands between that massive fuck ton army in the North plus the WW. Next episode I see them showing what goes down at the Wall. Excited!!!! Blackwater is the only battle they have shown on screen, unless you consider Dany killing the slavers this episode a battle. Unfortunately they had the fade to black in place of the WW battle and just told us what happened after, rather than seeing the WW attack the night's watch. No doubt for budget reasons as battles, especially with CGI WW would be very expensive to do and tough to pull off convincingly even on a HBO budget. It's too bad though as it would have really brought a much more dramatic presence to the story north of the wall. | ||
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PerryHooter
Sweden268 Posts
So, she gave the unsullied the opportunity to walk away, meaning they technically aren't slaves anymore and people in westeros won't hate her for using slaves. Of course, the unsullied are in practice unable to deny her commands, but they're not slaves, and that's what matters for her. (Of course, it's also a matter of principle for her, not using slaves). WP Danerys, WP. Also, feeling really sorry for Theon, I wouldn't even wish that faith on Joffrey. Although, I like a subtle technique the authors used there that reminds me of a scene from Sopranos (also HBO). There was this hideous mafia character there (in season 4/5?), Ralph Ciffareto, who did all kinds of wicked things (like a light version of Joffrey). In one episode his son was in an accident, he fell into despair (as you'd expect) and for the first time you saw his human side and he showed signs of regretting his monstrous acts. 5 minutes later he was killed, just as you started to not hate him. Same with Theon, he regrets his past crimes towards the Stark and looks like he wanna repent himself (unsure on how to use the verb repent lol), you feel some sympathy for him and think he might end up fighting for the good side once again. But nope, just after that he's sentenced to the worst of faiths. Special HBO "character-development-roller-coaster" tactics. | ||
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ecstazy
Russian Federation59 Posts
On April 23 2013 04:03 PerryHooter wrote: I like how Daenerys solved the dilemma of using slave soldiers (slaves being outlawed in westeros which would cause a lot of problems once she gets there) versus that of trying to find houses loyal to the Targaryens and fight with forces consisting of free men (which would be much "messier" warfare with raping and pillaging), a dilemma Mormont and Selmy discussed the episode before. I contemplated on that myself. So, she gave the unsullied the opportunity to walk away, meaning they technically aren't slaves anymore and people in westeros won't hate her for using slaves. Of course, the unsullied are in practice unable to deny her commands, but they're not slaves, and that's what matters for her. (Of course, it's also a matter of principle for her, not using slaves). WP Danerys, WP. I think unsullied could have walked away, but they enjoyed killing their masters and since fighting is all they can do and have nowhere else to go, it is only logical for them to stick with Dany. | ||
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PerryHooter
Sweden268 Posts
On April 23 2013 03:16 Excludos wrote: What a sick sick episode! Anyone still doubting that Emilia Clarke is a seriously good actor? I didn't wanna write this because I didn't wanna sound like an elitist or a whiny b**ch, but I had a very minor cringe during that last scene with Daenarys and the dragons and the unsullied and all that jazz (ty day9 for the expression). The scene is awesome in it's entirety, but I just didn't really feel it when she ordered her soliders to kill all the slavers. She had this look on her face, trying to be the fearless commanding type, an ice-cold Clint Eastwood-style look and it felt a little awkward (with emphasis on little) to me. Having a hard time feeling the authority, is where I'm getting at I guess. I guess the fault is with me though, being affected by the patriarchal mindset towards her, and if so I regret it. All in all, not a big deal to me. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On April 23 2013 04:11 ecstazy wrote: I think unsullied could have walked away, but they enjoyed killing their masters and since fighting is all they can do and have nowhere else to go, it is only logical for them to stick with Dany. Ya exactly. What else where they going to do, open a bar? | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
I mean I just don't see how this Unsullied/Slave master can go for the trade. Much less so without any precautions at all. No "don't kill me with my army" deal or anything. He just takes a dragon at a leash that can more than obviously just rip him apart or burn him at will. He had basically blind faith into that deal which didn't suit his character at all. I mean obviously they went for the "he's so full of himself he won't realize shit" attitude but still, if I could tell that character something it would be "Are you really this fucking stupid?" | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On April 23 2013 04:30 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: I don't know but in regards to storytelling I feel like the Unsullied stuff was just too generic, foreseeable and simply too dumb/unrealistic, even in their world. I mean I just don't see how this Unsullied/Slave master can go for the trade. Much less so without any precautions at all. No "don't kill me with my army" deal or anything. He just takes a dragon at a leash that can more than obviously just rip him apart or burn him at will. He had basically blind faith into that deal which didn't suit his character at all. I mean obviously they went for the "he's so full of himself he won't realize shit" attitude but still, if I could tell that character something it would be "Are you really this fucking stupid?" apparently yes, he was that fucking stupid. he was constantly undermining her, calling her whore and sluts, constantly. i doubt he would have taken precautions with the trade, which he has done countless times i'd imagine. | ||
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