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rastaban
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22065 Posts
On June 02 2012 01:38 rastaban wrote: Well now I know way more about creating eunichs than I had hoped but still not sure about what they are used for. Was it just because you could have them guards your harem without banging them? I wonder if it removed the sexual drive all together and so they were thought more focused or if it just meant they couldn't fulfill those desires. Its been a while since my biology lessons but it should reduce if not halt the creating of testosteron and so reduce the biological urge. Doesnt stop you from knowing everyone else gets some and wanting it aswell tho. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On June 02 2012 01:43 Gorsameth wrote: Its been a while since my biology lessons but it should reduce if not halt the creating of testosteron and so reduce the biological urge. Doesnt stop you from knowing everyone else gets some and wanting it aswell tho. Well it should help you focus tremendously I guess | ||
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DoctorPhil
Netherlands168 Posts
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On June 02 2012 02:48 DoctorPhil wrote: Are we supposed to know yet why Varys wanted the Dothraki to invade, even though he wanted to prevent that before? That scene with him and Illyrio always confused me to no end. I think it has to do w/ his comment to Ned Stark that he wants to serve the realm. This is just speculation, but I think he might believe that the only way to have a stable ruling line is for the Targaryen's to rule, because there is too much bad blood between and among the great houses. If any other house holds the throne, their enemies will scheme endlessly to take it from them leading inevitably to more warfare. | ||
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lpstroggoz
New Zealand30 Posts
On June 02 2012 02:48 DoctorPhil wrote: Are we supposed to know yet why Varys wanted the Dothraki to invade, even though he wanted to prevent that before? That scene with him and Illyrio always confused me to no end. varys serves the realm, he wants peace. There can only be peace by putting a targaryen with dragons on the iron throne, as a dragon has sort of a similar effect as a nuclear bomb in this day and age. No one would dare attack someone with fully grown dragons and therefore the realm would be in peace as long as the ruler has more power than everyone else combined. i think varys has good intentions by invading westeros with dothraki. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On June 02 2012 02:59 lpstroggoz wrote: varys serves the realm, he wants peace. There can only be peace by putting a targaryen with dragons on the iron throne, as a dragon has sort of a similar effect as a nuclear bomb in this day and age. No one would dare attack someone with fully grown dragons and therefore the realm would be in peace as long as the ruler has more power than everyone else combined. i think varys has good intentions by invading westeros with dothraki. There is still the problem of the eventual Dothraki rampage. The lesser evil, I guess. | ||
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Erasme
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On June 02 2012 02:59 lpstroggoz wrote: varys serves the realm, he wants peace. There can only be peace by putting a targaryen with dragons on the iron throne, as a dragon has sort of a similar effect as a nuclear bomb in this day and age. No one would dare attack someone with fully grown dragons and therefore the realm would be in peace as long as the ruler has more power than everyone else combined. i think varys has good intentions by invading westeros with dothraki. Except that he was scheming with Illyrio long before Daenerys had dragons, unless you think Varys/Illyrio knew they would hatch when they gave them to her. Seems far fetched since the entire world seems to think they are extinct. And he'll have to think of something else now, because she no longer has a Dothraki army with which to invade Westeros. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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United States6046 Posts
On June 02 2012 03:17 rastaban wrote: didn't he try to have her assassinated, and nearly did so except for jorah's change of heart. I don't understand why he would do that even with the king requesting it. Well, it was a collective decision of the small council...I think at least. I re-watched that particular scene last night, but I wasn't paying too much attention. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On June 02 2012 00:54 Orcasgt24 wrote: I now know a hell of alot more about castration then I thought I ever would. And after a quick peak, this is the Game of Thrones thread on teamliquid.net. WTF!!!! So back on topic...I wonder what the phrase "The night is dark and full of terrors" mean. Must be what's north of the wall. You know, walkers and shit. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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On June 02 2012 03:28 Erasme wrote: He didnt want to kill her afaik, wasnt it Robert who wanted her dead ? Yea, but everyone was trying to convince Ned that they should kill her. Ned was against it because he thought killing her with child would be dishonorable. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On June 02 2012 03:17 rastaban wrote: didn't he try to have her assassinated, and nearly did so except for jorah's change of heart. I don't understand why he would do that even with the king requesting it. If you remember closely, in that scene a child tells Jorah that the Spider gives him thanks and a full pardon. Immediately he knows something is up and stops the assassination attempt. If Varys actually wanted her dead, he would have waited until after the deed was done to present Jorah with his pardon. By doing it the way he did, he warned Jorah of what was about to happen and I guess hoped that he would stop it. Varys doesn't seem the sort to pin his plans on "hope" so maybe he had some inside information of his own that indicated Ser Jorah was becoming invested in Daenerys. But openly rebelling against the small council and Robert, trying to get them to reconsider, would have seemed awfully suspicious I think. Especially with how vehement Robert was about it. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
And, they only got the info that Dany was alive through Jorah right? Who did Jorah tell? If he told Varys, then maybe they had this whole thing arranged? Varys would present the opportunity to assassinate Dany, but he and Jorah would make sure it wouldn't work. | ||
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Sandtrout
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 02 2012 03:53 ZasZ. wrote: If you remember closely, in that scene a child tells Jorah that the Spider gives him thanks and a full pardon. Immediately he knows something is up and stops the assassination attempt. If Varys actually wanted her dead, he would have waited until after the deed was done to present Jorah with his pardon. By doing it the way he did, he warned Jorah of what was about to happen and I guess hoped that he would stop it. Varys doesn't seem the sort to pin his plans on "hope" so maybe he had some inside information of his own that indicated Ser Jorah was becoming invested in Daenerys. But openly rebelling against the small council and Robert, trying to get them to reconsider, would have seemed awfully suspicious I think. Especially with how vehement Robert was about it. Maybe, my take was that he was meeting with that guy on locating her so he could have her killed and finding what she was up to, and they were using Jorah to track her with a pardon as his reward. I doubt he was hoping for her return, he pushed toi hard to get her killed and doesn't want to retract it when Ned tells him to call it off when Robert dies. | ||
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