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On July 24 2017 23:31 KwarK wrote:
All Cersei needs to do is convince Kelly C's dragons to go into the dungeons below the Red Keep, sit in a specific spot and wait while they prep the ballista. Oh, and take their hide off.
Problem solved imo.
Bronn failed at step 1.
High level engineering power play by Maester Qyburn though. When told to find a solution to an unsolvable problem simply come up with a solution to a solvable problem and then blame the original problem for not correctly matching the one you solved.
It's not that the ballistas can't pierce a dragon's skull. It's that the dragon was moving, and had an armoured hide, and the skull hadn't been degrading for hundreds of years. Those are different problems for which he takes absolutely no responsibility.
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^Just wait until we discover that there was poison on that big arrow (or whatever projectile a ballista launches)
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Wouldn't surprise me if they were coated in poison.
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gl trying to poison a dragon which is as huge as drogon with arrows, i doubt that could work
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The only one that will kill Drogon is the Night King.
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On August 08 2017 03:37 Reaps wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if they were coated in poison.
And because Qyburn knows everything about everything, he has dragon poison lying around! I'm sure a small bottle of the Long Fairwell will do the trick, because dragon and human anatomy are basically the same 
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Anyway right now the scenes from this episodes that gave me the most chills were the ones with the Starks at Winterfell..
- Brann and Littlefinger ("chaos is a ladder")
- Arya and Sansa (I like how at the beginning Arya is kind of cold, but after having "gauged" Sansa again, she warms up)
- Arya training
very very cool.. and I know some of it is what you'd call "fan service", but I'm a fan after all - so I enjoyed it 
edit: rewatching Ser Davos' dialogue with Missandei I admit all my suspect from before were kind of absurd.. doesn't seem that suspect at all
("fewer".. very nice touch )
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On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore?
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On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore?
Do you think Bran knows everything?
I would assume so as well
but I found a bit odd when Brann asks Littlefinger who was the previous owner of the dagger, and Littlefinger says he doesn't know.. didn't he tell Catelyn that the dagger belonged to Tyrion? was that part of one of his schemes?
(and if Brann knows already, why did he ask?)
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On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore?
Don't think he does. He's more Raven than Bran at this point given his dialogue so far.
Which could mean he has no incentive to tell Jon about his parentage either unless he deems it needed in order to convince Jon and Dany to work together.
Still waiting for Arya to seriously creep/freak out Sansa by doing something dark without a care in the world.
Maybe she'll just flatly throw in how she killed all the Freys at dinner or something.
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On August 08 2017 04:36 Thezzy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore? Don't think he does. He's more Raven than Bran at this point given his dialogue so far. Which could mean he has no incentive to tell Jon about his parentage either unless he deems it needed in order to convince Jon and Dany to work together. Still waiting for Arya to seriously creep/freak out Sansa by doing something dark without a care in the world. Maybe she'll just flatly throw in how she killed all the Freys at dinner or something.
I seem to remember Bran saying it was important he talked to Jon.
Considering all the other secret things, including things he could not merely have seen (like Arya's list) he knows he must surely be aware of who tried to kill him, who betrayed Ned and pretty much everything else. I guess him asking Littlefinger where the dagger came from is a test?
Meh omniscient characters are always a problem.
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On August 08 2017 04:23 VHbb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore? Do you think Bran knows everything? I would assume so as well but I found a bit odd when Brann asks Littlefinger who was the previous owner of the dagger, and Littlefinger says he doesn't know.. didn't he tell Catelyn that the dagger belonged to Tyrion? was that part of one of his schemes? (and if Brann knows already, why did he ask?)
It's a bit unclear. He still talks about needing to see better and hypothetically his power is tied to the Weirwoods so it would be weaker down south where more of them have been chopped down.
Here's the dagger's ownership story (as best I remember):
Littlefinger said it was his, but he lost it to Tyrion when Loras beat Jaime at a tourney. Tyrion counters that he'd never bet against his family. Caitlyn is the only one who heard the rebuke from Tyrion and it's unclear if she believed him. Jaime later says the same, but that he did see Robert end up with the dagger. So it's a bit mixed heritage still.
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On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore?
I see it like Bran 'knows everything' like we know everything due to the internet. It's available, but you still have to look for it and read it(for him watching it in flashback) to know it.
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Just finished watching it, cool episode, my favorite of the season so far!
The part with Jon and Danny in the cave was kinda weird but other than that, good stuff. Stark reunion was well done I thought, Arya vs Brienne was satisfying and the battle was epic as fuck!
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On August 08 2017 04:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2017 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On the one hand, Bran knows that Littlefinger orchestrated the betrayal and execution of Eddard, the conflict between Lannisters and Starks and the entire start of the war. On the other, does Creepybran even care anymore? I see it like Bran 'knows everything' like we know everything due to the internet. It's available, but you still have to look for it and read it(for him watching it in flashback) to know it.
"Chaos is a ladder" is a super specific reference though. It explicitly references Littlefinger's conversation with Varys following his starting of the war, if I recall correctly. That's Bran saying "I know what you did last summer". He can't not know, the line wouldn't make sense.
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Just waiting some major plot armor to rescue to Bronn and Jaime.
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On August 08 2017 05:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just waiting some major plot armor to rescue to Bronn and Jaime.
Both being captured by Dany, followed by 2 emotional meetings as Tyrion talks to them.
If this happens then something tells me Jamie will turn against Cersei and side with Dany/Jon and be the general against the army of the dead.
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Seems almost certain that Jamie and Euron need to interact at least once more, would fit with your theory gorsameth.
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Jamie needs to kill Cersei before anything happens to him, so i'm with Gorsameth on that part
Yes i still believe Maggy the frog's prophecy's will come true and that Jamie is the younger brother she mentioned, Tyrion would be too obvious.
Edit: nm just realised they didn't add that part in the show.
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On August 08 2017 05:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just waiting some major plot armor to rescue to Bronn and Jaime.
Probably Tyrion convinced Daenerys that Jaime is" more valuable alive" and they will take him out of the watter and will inprison him... And Bronn goes with him somehow. If she wanted to kill him, he was there the whole time.
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