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On November 03 2014 10:16 ChunderBoy wrote:
after his 650 ms meme, this hero is quite possibly the best hero in the game (atleast i think so)
rtz showed us what he can do now
Stating that after 3 games and used by one of the best teams in the world is as valid as me explaining how imba ember spirit is because Hao is 80% with that hero and is yet to lose a game with him since TI...
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On November 03 2014 10:16 ChunderBoy wrote:
after his 650 ms meme, this hero is quite possibly the best hero in the game (atleast i think so)
rtz showed us what he can do now
Which game/tournament was this? I've been away from watching tournaments for a number of months...
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On November 04 2014 06:22 BoZiffer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 10:16 ChunderBoy wrote:
after his 650 ms meme, this hero is quite possibly the best hero in the game (atleast i think so)
rtz showed us what he can do now Which game/tournament was this? I've been away from watching tournaments for a number of months...
Starladder i think
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Tried ducks old post again in a sololane against a duallane: lots o tangos+soulring+naked boot+necro3+bots. Roshan, t1&t2 towers melt so fast that a medaillon build feels inferiour when i dont have had as much farm as i hoped for (which tend to be most games like everyone else). Sneaking a rosh is faster, easier and feels alot safer. Skipping vlads has potential in pubs thats for sure.
Maybe follow it up with a bkb+halberd/hot/ac+refresher+double necro3.
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is this a thing now? just watched SL XI, VG vs Lai gaming. Black goes fast midas into medallion vlads, no boots.
His slot is maxed from midas, medal, vlads, bkb, tp (later AC), and a blank for getting rosh, just relying on his wolf form for max movement speed. Gets BoTs like 1 hour into the game.
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On November 18 2014 12:38 ncsix wrote:
is this a thing now? just watched SL XI, VG vs Lai gaming. Black goes fast midas into medallion vlads, no boots.
His slot is maxed from midas, medal, vlads, bkb, tp (later AC), and a blank for getting rosh, just relying on his wolf form for max movement speed. Gets BoTs like 1 hour into the game.
rtz did it when playing lycan on mid, he changed back to boots tho.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Is bootless build really viable with the long lycan ult cooldown? I guess he just never fights without wolf form?
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SoCal8910 Posts
it will slow down your farm rotation too much to make it viable. I know that pros are doing it, and I'd have to see the game..but its not like boot-less weaver where you have a short cooldown at max movement speed.
I'm surprised to hear that pro players are trying it so maybe it has some merits. dunno.
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I've found decent success playing this hero against the Snipers and Juggs that are inevitably picked every game. Even MoM won't let sniper run away from your ult. Pretty terrible vs troll though.
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That sounds like a pretty cool build to be honest. I've never actually seen it in action though. My preferred build for Lycan is lane and sometimes jungle. If I go lane, I usually don't skill Wolves first, I buy a Quelling Blade and get the third skill (sorry, sitting in bed right now and forgot what the name was 😅). This gives you a lot of CS potential, which means more farm for you. I would usually then get pooled some tangoes, if not I'll buy my own. I've won all my games using this lane build except one.
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I still go for the solo ratting strat and while its effectiveness seems to have dropped slightly it still is pretty dang reliable
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On March 26 2015 02:47 Vikeif wrote:
I still go for the solo ratting strat and while its effectiveness seems to have dropped slightly it still is pretty dang reliable
I did that when the Year Beast was up, when YB was up, I'd just rat.
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Hey guys, Lycan is still a pretty good hero, and this patch it's a nice hero.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1438970867
I built Solar Crest on him and it's absolutly amazing. Its utility fits well Lycan's role. it grants him evasion that he doesn't get all the time with a regular build (unless he decides to get halberd but this is so arre) and increases his farming speed and his pushing speed (giving evasion and armor to creeps). And the armor reduction cannot be forgotten as well as the 30% miss chance which ruins most of the right clickers.
I think this item is core on Lycan and will be core on other heroes (venge, visage). Rest is like before: vlads, bkb...
What do you think?
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On May 02 2015 04:26 HammerKick wrote:Hey guys, Lycan is still a pretty good hero, and this patch it's a nice hero. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1438970867I built Solar Crest on him and it's absolutly amazing. Its utility fits well Lycan's role. it grants him evasion that he doesn't get all the time with a regular build (unless he decides to get halberd but this is so arre) and increases his farming speed and his pushing speed (giving evasion and armor to creeps). And the armor reduction cannot be forgotten as well as the 30% miss chance which ruins most of the right clickers. I think this item is core on Lycan and will be core on other heroes (venge, visage). Rest is like before: vlads, bkb... What do you think?
i really dont like delaying necro 3 after a medallion with vlads treads
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On May 02 2015 05:46 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2015 04:26 HammerKick wrote:Hey guys, Lycan is still a pretty good hero, and this patch it's a nice hero. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1438970867I built Solar Crest on him and it's absolutly amazing. Its utility fits well Lycan's role. it grants him evasion that he doesn't get all the time with a regular build (unless he decides to get halberd but this is so arre) and increases his farming speed and his pushing speed (giving evasion and armor to creeps). And the armor reduction cannot be forgotten as well as the 30% miss chance which ruins most of the right clickers. I think this item is core on Lycan and will be core on other heroes (venge, visage). Rest is like before: vlads, bkb... What do you think? i really dont like delaying necro 3 after a medallion with vlads treads
I don't like delaying necro at all. Soul ring solves all mana problems. You don't need vlads or treads or medallion.
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So I played several games using the guide from the OP and it seems pretty strong (four wins, one loss so far, normal skill bracket). It seems that after the nerf to the jungle you hit the timings about 60-90 second later (although it may be caused by my shitty farming skills), but you can still get necro3 before the 20 minute mark with a decent game.
The one game I lost was when enemy team picked Riki who completely fucked up my jungling. Is there an effective way to deal with such play, or is it an instaloss? Buying sentries fucks up the timings and will not guarantee complete safety, especially at level 1-4 I feel.
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Its the same as vs gondar thats one issue you can always go lane, yes you can fuck up the team but this is considering riki was last pick so the team cant adjust lanes and picks
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I have always thought jungle lycan is ineffective, has there been any recent buff that has changed that? Because honestly all my life I have played only safe lane lycan and internally flamed everyone who took lycan into the jungle.
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On June 30 2015 19:02 manicmessiah wrote:
I have always thought jungle lycan is ineffective, has there been any recent buff that has changed that? Because honestly all my life I have played only safe lane lycan and internally flamed everyone who took lycan into the jungle.
This thread was initially a Jungle Lycan build proposed by Kwark, the first 20 or so pages discuss it, have a read 
I used the build for a while, brought my MMR up by 1K (on an account that was initially a A-Z smurf to be fair)
www.dotabuff.com
Keep in mind this is all outdated now, but yes Jungle Lycan in solo queue was very effective.
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As I wrote, the jungle nerfs seems to have delayed his timings by a significant margin, but in lower level pubs he still feels quite strong, especially if you are able to get the solo rosh without trouble and then splitpush effectively. With just treads, vlads and necro3 at level 16 you have like 2000hp and a small army at your disposal.
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