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On January 06 2016 00:36 ChunderBoy wrote:
this hero is trending in 7k pubs
prolly coz invoker/sylla and other stuff are picked in every game
u only jungle if ur lane is bad and u have to retreat to jungle and only then do u get an iron talon
If you can tell from picks that you're up against an impossible 2v2 you start tangos talon, head straight for jungle and tell your team you aren't going to walk into an impossible lane matchup. If you have a jungler already you start at the new camp near ancients.
If you want to play lycan right now you have to know how to level 1 jungle him, even if your plan isn't to spam it every single game. Sometimes lane just can't be done.
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On January 13 2016 10:33 Lavitage2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2016 00:36 ChunderBoy wrote:
this hero is trending in 7k pubs
prolly coz invoker/sylla and other stuff are picked in every game
u only jungle if ur lane is bad and u have to retreat to jungle and only then do u get an iron talon If you can tell from picks that you're up against an impossible 2v2 you start tangos talon, head straight for jungle and tell your team you aren't going to walk into an impossible lane matchup. If you have a jungler already you start at the new camp near ancients. If you want to play lycan right now you have to know how to level 1 jungle him, even if your plan isn't to spam it every single game. Sometimes lane just can't be done.
...and then they just invade your jungle because your safelane is some useless support trying to 1v2 and can't stop them.
Level 1 jungle is just tossing a coin. "Is the other team smart enough to invade or not?" Tails, we lose from the moment I buy a talon. Heads, and the team survives 4v5 for the entire earlygame... maybe we do alright.
That is such a terrible plan.
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On January 24 2016 22:13 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Nop just safelaner
He alternates.
Sometimes he goes Howl lvl 1 -> lane
Sometimes he goes wolves lvl 1 into 4/0/4/1 -> jungle
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SoCal8910 Posts
On January 25 2016 11:38 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2016 10:33 Lavitage2 wrote:On January 06 2016 00:36 ChunderBoy wrote:
this hero is trending in 7k pubs
prolly coz invoker/sylla and other stuff are picked in every game
u only jungle if ur lane is bad and u have to retreat to jungle and only then do u get an iron talon If you can tell from picks that you're up against an impossible 2v2 you start tangos talon, head straight for jungle and tell your team you aren't going to walk into an impossible lane matchup. If you have a jungler already you start at the new camp near ancients. If you want to play lycan right now you have to know how to level 1 jungle him, even if your plan isn't to spam it every single game. Sometimes lane just can't be done. ...and then they just invade your jungle because your safelane is some useless support trying to 1v2 and can't stop them. Level 1 jungle is just tossing a coin. "Is the other team smart enough to invade or not?" Tails, we lose from the moment I buy a talon. Heads, and the team survives 4v5 for the entire earlygame... maybe we do alright. That is such a terrible plan.
Pubs are so disorganized, so honestly it's a terrible plan but if you stay on top of securing runes and if you're efficient enough, many times you can probably get away with it.
At the 5-6k range I'm sure this isn't true but iron talon is pretty damn good.
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This hero is ridiculously strong right now. Sitting at about 65% winrate over 30 games at 4k ranked.
Item build is always treads -> armlet -> echo sabre > vlads. (not entirely sure about order of items and components yet, but definitely armlet first).
Then assault cuirass, desolator, abyssal blade or bkb as you need it. Later you want to replace vlads with satanic and probably pick up a heart.
Any items with strength are amazing damage on lycan since his passive gives him 1.5 damage per strength (1.65 with vlads). This is also why armlet is by far and large the best item for lycan. Its a 2k gold item that gives you 80 damage, 9 armor and 25 attack speed. As well as the power of armlet toggling. When toggled off armlet and your passive gives you 20hp regen which means you will never have to go back to base.
I feel like necrobook is outdated and the pure carry rightclicker is much much stronger right now. His wolves and passive make him a really strong laner and he comes online incredibly quickly with just his 4 basic items. He can lane everywhere but safelane is definitely the best I feel. You can pick up your bread and butter (treads, armlet, echo, vlads) at 20min and just destroy the game from there.
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I'm gunna play some Lycan soon but I'd be surprised if armlet/echo was better than necrobook.
I'd imagine vlads/hotd/book3 (maybe not vlads anymore), pop all ur spells and right click and erase heroes / towers. Th book dumpsters team fights because you get objectives immediately after fights, and there's so much fighting in dots now.
I also like the late game summons + ult pushing out lanes.
But maybe it is dated.. I'll try it out.
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Secret just played armlet lycan in the major.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
problem with necro is it's just a deadweight item unless you end the game in decent time. the hero needs echo because of his pitiful attack speed.
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ya i was wrong armlet/echo is def better than necro now
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Helm of the Dominator is Just not as good now, I rarely see anyone buy it. It does not give you much anymore. +2 Stats is pretty much nothing. +8HP Regen is pretty decent, the 20 Attackspeed is really good for lycan. I think it just its cost. Its almost 2k gold just to get regen and some attack speed and a creep.
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is it viable to skip wolves until ~8? envy's been doing that in some games with relative success, but it's also envy, so. . .
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On May 07 2017 07:01 DazzleEnthusiast wrote:
is it viable to skip wolves until ~8? envy's been doing that in some games with relative success, but it's also envy, so. . .
I dont really know why you would. Wolves give you a lot of kill potential through blocking and they do a ton of dmg and slow attack speed.
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I believe the trend is more points into passive than wolves at the start for better laning so you can free up your supports to do whatever they want. I didn't realise how broken the passive is until I lane against him as an offlaner lol. It's like 150 damage autoattacks with free 10 hp regen.
The trendy item build is armlet and mom which boost main hero's dps, so might as well just add points into passive early. And I guess less mana to spam wolves too with no vlads or necro.
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Maxing passive first is definitely very strong. But where do you put your other points? Howl? Im not entirely sold on howl being better than wolves.
With tread switching and basi you have more than enough mana to keep up wolves and always have mana ready for ult.
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