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its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
March 15 2019 19:26 GMT
#6421
i hope the day of will help them. If they play like today, this will be a sad day.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
March 15 2019 19:27 GMT
#6422
Liquid winning a LAN where half the competition is at another LAN and the other half is mostly stand ins and Apex Legends players just isn't that impressive.

It's March and they're playing BO1 elimination matches at the first DPC event they've attended as 5.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
March 15 2019 19:29 GMT
#6423
who was an Apex player?
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
March 15 2019 19:51 GMT
#6424
Pasha and NoOne were playing ApexLegends during the drafting stage at one day, so it looks like they did not take this tournament pretty seriously.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
March 16 2019 15:42 GMT
#6425
The games against Keen were concerning. For the first time I'm actually wondering what is happening with the boys. Everyone felt just generally uninspired and there was none of the aura of invincibility that they used to have. Let's cheer for a good showing versus Chaos tomorrow to get some redemption against Fnatic probably.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 16 2019 23:50 GMT
#6426
I think they might need a break. They've been going HARD lately. Very few days off, flying directly from tournaments to bootcamp. I think (hope) we're OK for at least top 8 and then the can, hopefully, get some rest after the next major qualifier and re-evaluate
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
March 17 2019 01:03 GMT
#6427
Surely, even with bootcamping, their schedule this year is nowhere near as rigorous as previous years. And they've had plenty of rest already. We're on the third major out of five and they haven't even participated in the previous two. I feel like, if anything, they have the opposite problem: they need more official games, more tournaments, to get back into the groove.

Or maybe they realize how far behind they are this season and the pressure is causing them to burn themselves out trying to catch up.

Or maybe it's both.

In any case, the Liquid at this event is not the Liquid we've come to expect. Hopefully they'll make some sort of miracle lower bracket run à la TI7 to at least grab enough DPC points to have a more secure position in the standings.
noh2o
Profile Joined August 2017
China71 Posts
March 17 2019 01:22 GMT
#6428
i dont know how kky ban pick and how miracle play
leshrac and abaddon must be banned,but kky let them out,
but secret ban leshrac in the 2nd game
when miracle play mophing,eblade and eyes skadi?wtf
manta please.
it is a major langame,not pub,take care please
w33 is the best mid player
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
March 17 2019 08:40 GMT
#6429
You cannot ban against Secret to be fair. Each hero they play is first ban material at the moment.

The itemization was wrong as they did not change it but stick to their comfort zone.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 14:44:15
March 17 2019 14:38 GMT
#6430
they are finally at a major again as a full team, and then we get this lmao
i am normally very mild with critisism, but that whole tournament was embarrassing....
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
March 17 2019 14:41 GMT
#6431
Ok, what just happened. I am in shock.
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
March 17 2019 14:42 GMT
#6432
just 1 word
Terrible
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
March 17 2019 14:42 GMT
#6433
On March 17 2019 23:38 hunter_x wrote:
they are finally at a major again as a full team, and then we get this lmao
i am normally very mild with critisism, but that whole tournament was embarissing....

I don't know if the coach has anything to do with the drafts, but I will agree with you - Usually they play well at least. But this tournament was embarassing to put it mildly - something is really wrong they just played bad. Havent seem them play like that ever.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
March 17 2019 14:43 GMT
#6434
They never stood any chance against Chaos in the first place. This Liquid is completely clueless and lost. I lost all hope for them after their group stage so I'm not too shocked by what's happened. Guess it's time for them to work harder and improve so they perform well at yet another non-DPC tournament which is virtually meaningless at this point.
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
March 17 2019 14:48 GMT
#6435
Feels a bit like the opposite of last years DCP Season where the played way to many tournaments.

This year, there is a lot less tournaments overall, they got unlucky to not allways be the full team when they played.
I think now there is at least some amount of pressure to perform while not having the most experience and also not the most oportunitys.

This must be a shock to the team as well, they know they not only can do better but this wasnt even a fraction of what they are capable of.

Hope they will bounce back!
Rufus Dupres
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany1071 Posts
March 17 2019 14:48 GMT
#6436
Liquid has to redeem themselves for this showing. This was much worse than the Birmingham Major last year.

Don't know...missing the words right now. Never felt so disappointed about this team like today.
"The map is black, but I see everything" - Kuro - MegaFon 2018
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
March 17 2019 14:52 GMT
#6437
What an utterly uninspired performance. Seems like every single game was just them giving every single one of their cores disadvantageous lane matchups, losing all the lanes to no one's surprise, and then getting run over. If they had a plan, if there was any purpose whatsoever behind their drafts, we didn't get to see it because they just got ran over in the laning stage.

And they did it again, and again, and again, as if expecting that something will magically change if they just believe in the heart of the cards, or something.

Why didn't they even TRY to swap lanes in that last game? They could have had good matchups. Instead they had the worst matchups possible on all 3 lanes, and did absolutely nothing about it. What's even the point of having Kuro Tusk in top lane against Ursa?

I'm so sick of watching Liquid bash their heads against a wall instead of going around it.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6182 Posts
March 17 2019 15:29 GMT
#6438
I feel like I may have accidentally created horcruxes today because my soul was split over that performance. And not only that, but the looks o the players faces (and Matu with his head in his hands, and the in-game cams) broke my heart a little. Please no reshuffle
<3
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
March 17 2019 16:44 GMT
#6439
Yeah, please keep that in mind people. It's not like they didn't try. Please don't be too harsh on them.

I have been lucky enough to interact with the team a lot lately and this won't be something they just shake off. After their elimination from Birmingham in 2017, they came up for a press round after losing to Secret. Now I won't name names but at least one of the players was absolutely crushed. Looked like he was on the verge of crying. That's how hard this team takes losses. That's how invested they are.

I understand you're all disappointed but please don't imply that they're not trying. Because if it's one thing I know for sure is that they are. We know we have the individual skill, it's about making slight adjustments. We'll be back. There are still two majors left and the team will surely use this for fuel!
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
VvvV1251
Profile Joined January 2016
Algeria142 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-17 17:34:47
March 17 2019 17:34 GMT
#6440
Ah the risk of a BO1 elimination game, play it a 100 times and Liquid score would looks like this 99 win and 1 lose. GG WP to chaos.
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