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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 19:01:22
June 21 2015 19:00 GMT
#1341
4 in a row boys
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 19:13:47
June 21 2015 19:13 GMT
#1342
at this point with how Secret dominating if they don't win TI5 it's gonna be an absolute disaster .. at least DK last year was not undefeated and expected to be contested by 3 teams before TI4

so if DK didn't win it was ok and there was also IG back then who owned everybody before TI4
this is a quote
xXxUnseenxXx
Profile Joined March 2013
United States230 Posts
June 21 2015 19:17 GMT
#1343
honestly i really dont like rtz or zai by what happened with EG, but I gotta say I really like how this team is playing and wish them the best of luck at ti5. I am betting they will win it, (and for my predictions sake of my compendium) PLEASE WIN
Wanna Hear a Joke? Its a Secret ---- Forever a Liquid Fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7748 Posts
June 21 2015 19:21 GMT
#1344
4 in a row, GG BOYS

Is there anything else before TI? Or does the long wait begin now?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
June 21 2015 19:21 GMT
#1345
On June 22 2015 04:17 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
honestly i really dont like rtz or zai by what happened with EG, but I gotta say I really like how this team is playing and wish them the best of luck at ti5. I am betting they will win it, (and for my predictions sake of my compendium) PLEASE WIN

i actually still want EG 2014 more than this new secret
this is a quote
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 21 2015 19:24 GMT
#1346
Congrats guys, must feel good to stay at the top. I miss that feeling

Which is the next stop of this train? (I mean tournament)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 21 2015 19:25 GMT
#1347
On June 22 2015 04:21 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 04:17 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
honestly i really dont like rtz or zai by what happened with EG, but I gotta say I really like how this team is playing and wish them the best of luck at ti5. I am betting they will win it, (and for my predictions sake of my compendium) PLEASE WIN

i actually still want EG 2014 more than this new secret


Well we can make allstar match old EG vs Old DK.

Also, WP Secret, EG will get their revenge at TI.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 19:26:43
June 21 2015 19:25 GMT
#1348
On June 22 2015 04:21 PoulsenB wrote:
4 in a row, GG BOYS

Is there anything else before TI? Or does the long wait begin now?


On June 22 2015 04:24 Racket wrote:
Congrats guys, must feel good to stay at the top. I miss that feeling

Which is the next stop of this train? (I mean tournament)

dotapitt is the last one online .. there's no more lan tournament TI5 is the next tournament

On June 22 2015 04:25 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 04:21 goody153 wrote:
On June 22 2015 04:17 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
honestly i really dont like rtz or zai by what happened with EG, but I gotta say I really like how this team is playing and wish them the best of luck at ti5. I am betting they will win it, (and for my predictions sake of my compendium) PLEASE WIN

i actually still want EG 2014 more than this new secret


Well we can make allstar match old EG vs Old DK.

Also, WP Secret, EG will get their revenge at TI.

which iteration of eg ?

the mason or fear ? :D
this is a quote
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 21 2015 19:48 GMT
#1349
On June 22 2015 04:25 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 04:21 PoulsenB wrote:
4 in a row, GG BOYS

Is there anything else before TI? Or does the long wait begin now?


Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 04:24 Racket wrote:
Congrats guys, must feel good to stay at the top. I miss that feeling

Which is the next stop of this train? (I mean tournament)

dotapitt is the last one online .. there's no more lan tournament TI5 is the next tournament

Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 04:25 the bear jew wrote:
On June 22 2015 04:21 goody153 wrote:
On June 22 2015 04:17 xXxUnseenxXx wrote:
honestly i really dont like rtz or zai by what happened with EG, but I gotta say I really like how this team is playing and wish them the best of luck at ti5. I am betting they will win it, (and for my predictions sake of my compendium) PLEASE WIN

i actually still want EG 2014 more than this new secret


Well we can make allstar match old EG vs Old DK.

Also, WP Secret, EG will get their revenge at TI.

which iteration of eg ?

the mason or fear ? :D

Can do Fear, original sadboys vs 2014 DK.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 21 2015 20:35 GMT
#1350
Well, at this rate anything other than getting at least finals of TI will be a flop for Secret IMO.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bananaboy378
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom39 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 20:49:22
June 21 2015 20:42 GMT
#1351
*i smell the smell of a Grand finals or gtfo for secret*.

I honestly think, that so long as EG manage to get out fo the group stages, and get through the 1st round of the knock out rounds, it'll be a EG secret final, secret taking it at TI.

Analysing it down:

The only teams to take a game of secret have been:

EG (then have lost in every other final vs. secret they have played)
VP (a good team, but it was a horrible draft by secret, and a BO 1)
Empire (Secret basically used a game to experiment with a few new heros)
ViCi (Group stages, but it was a good draft all games, and VG only took a game off of a bo3)
Then any further back and we're looking at the scary facezzzz game that was just a cancerous series.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 20:53:20
June 21 2015 20:52 GMT
#1352
On June 22 2015 05:42 bananaboy378 wrote:
*i smell the smell of a Grand finals or gtfo for secret*.

I honestly think, that so long as EG manage to get out fo the group stages, and get through the 1st round of the knock out rounds, it'll be a EG secret final, secret taking it at TI.

Analysing it down:

The only teams to take a game of secret have been:

EG (then have lost in every other final vs. secret they have played)
VP (a good team, but it was a horrible draft by secret, and a BO 1)
Empire (Secret basically used a game to experiment with a few new heros)
ViCi (Group stages, but it was a good draft all games, and VG only took a game off of a bo3)
Then any further back and we're looking at the scary facezzzz game that was just a cancerous series.

I mean, you need to take off your glasses.

Here is the raw truth, taking the freshest info: the only things that have beaten Secret in 6.84 were straight outdrafts like VG's game at TS3, EG's game at TS3, EG's game at ESL (i don't count meaningless Bo1s here, sorry VP) or Secret hardcore throwing like their game against Empire at MDL (and no, they were not doing anything unusual this game, it was their cookie cutter draft for the tournament) and almost the game 4 of ESL.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 21 2015 22:43 GMT
#1353
On June 21 2015 08:42 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:15 prplhz wrote:
how come secret don't have a sponsor yet?


They have explained many times that they are not interested in a team/sponsor because they only want to do what they want to do. They make plenty of money by simply winning tournaments. They would have to give a cut to the team.


the team could be owned by all 5 members? so there would be no cuts given to a "team". however, are they not paying their coach and manager? which is the same shit as a team.

personally i think sponsors are just free money. having a sponsor doesnt mean that they have to do every ad for them or something, there are different types of sponsorship. i dont see how having logos on a tshirt would be detrimental to what they want to do as a team.
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
June 21 2015 23:21 GMT
#1354
I just want ot point out that none of the people that said "secret have to win TI or it's a fail" got a secret flair. Honestly most of the secret game are really close game and they are playing on the edge.

They can lose to the future winner earlier then in the finals and get out of top 2 and it wouldn't be a shame. Claiming TI title before playing it, after winning 4 lan after a huge patch would be foolish
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 00:22:40
June 21 2015 23:44 GMT
#1355


http://1337mag.com/4615-exclusive-s4-post-finals-interview-at-esl-one-frankfurt

s4 interview



[image loading]
s4 winning face
this is a quote
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 22 2015 00:08 GMT
#1356
S4 has this smirk face of a winner all the time. The quiet genius.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
June 22 2015 00:10 GMT
#1357
On June 22 2015 07:43 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:42 Bigtony wrote:
On June 21 2015 08:15 prplhz wrote:
how come secret don't have a sponsor yet?


They have explained many times that they are not interested in a team/sponsor because they only want to do what they want to do. They make plenty of money by simply winning tournaments. They would have to give a cut to the team.


the team could be owned by all 5 members? so there would be no cuts given to a "team". however, are they not paying their coach and manager? which is the same shit as a team.

personally i think sponsors are just free money. having a sponsor doesnt mean that they have to do every ad for them or something, there are different types of sponsorship. i dont see how having logos on a tshirt would be detrimental to what they want to do as a team.


Pretty sure some rich guy is sponsoring them.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 00:57:31
June 22 2015 00:56 GMT
#1358
In this industry, I only see 1 reason for sponsorship for the top teams, and that is provision of gaming house. Salary is not the main draw, since I doubt it is significant.

Look at team secret for example. Every tournament they enter, they have a good chance of being top 3. The prize money earned is likely to be more lucrative than their salary, so why subject themselves to get their winnings cut?

Sponsorships used to be necessary because flight and lodging expenses are placed on the players. But now these matters are covered by tournaments, so it is no longer an issue.

Even gaming houses could lose its appeal, as it doesn't cost much each for a flight to gather up in a place, stay in a budget accommodation, and make an arrangement with a local lan cafe for a private practice room. Accommodation is an issue though if these players want some 5 star treatment.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
June 22 2015 02:52 GMT
#1359
Guys if Secret wins TI, will they all just retire/stop giving a shit and will we lose 5 of the best players from the west?

MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 02:53:42
June 22 2015 02:53 GMT
#1360
I already made a post addressing this "sponsor organizations are outdated" nonsense and gosh darn but typing all that obvious shit again is just not appealing. Suffice it to say the meme is nonsense.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
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