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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 20:00:55
June 08 2015 20:00 GMT
#1301
After Secret won MDL and EG lost agaisnt LC... i remember about this

http://nadota.com/showthread.php?33067-Zai-and-Arteezy-should-have-stayed-with-EG

lmao
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#1302
Wasnt the grand prize for MDL much less than each player on EG won at DAC?
just sayin

I mean the thread is dumb but nadota or something
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Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-08 21:46:31
June 08 2015 21:41 GMT
#1303
Some interesting interviews found in reddit:

Puppey
Here he explain about the changes inside Secret, why Zai drafted, why s4 drafts, etc.

Arteezy

Zai

Press Conference

Pics: http://imgur.com/a/CcTMk
Vankuga
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-09 01:34:17
June 09 2015 01:30 GMT
#1304
On June 09 2015 06:41 Vankuga wrote:
Some interesting interviews found in reddit:

Puppey
Here he explain about the changes inside Secret, why Zai drafted, why s4 drafts, etc.

Arteezy

Zai

Press Conference

Pics: http://imgur.com/a/CcTMk


rtz interview dead, and zai interview doesnt load, but i think the team interview page has all of them there anyways
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7734 Posts
June 09 2015 14:57 GMT
#1305
On June 09 2015 05:00 Faruko wrote:
After Secret won MDL and EG lost agaisnt LC... i remember about this

http://nadota.com/showthread.php?33067-Zai-and-Arteezy-should-have-stayed-with-EG

lmao


Sad thing is that the moment Secret lose a few games and don't finish a tournament (ESL I think is next before TI, right?) in the top 3 the same people will start saying this shit all over again.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
June 09 2015 15:24 GMT
#1306
On June 09 2015 23:57 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2015 05:00 Faruko wrote:
After Secret won MDL and EG lost agaisnt LC... i remember about this

http://nadota.com/showthread.php?33067-Zai-and-Arteezy-should-have-stayed-with-EG

lmao


Sad thing is that the moment Secret lose a few games and don't finish a tournament (ESL I think is next before TI, right?) in the top 3 the same people will start saying this shit all over again.

at least DK last year didn't have as harsh treatment as secret .. even top 3 is not fucking good enough for team secret
this is a quote
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
June 09 2015 16:06 GMT
#1307
Well, based on their individual skill and insight into how to utilize their heroes to win any given matchup, if Team Secret doesnt win TI5 I would be severely dissappointed. If they were on my team I would probably yell at them.

I think people were more forgiving towards DK because they are an eastern team. Personally, I felt very much let down by their inability to make it to the finals.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 13 2015 08:25 GMT
#1308
On June 10 2015 01:06 a_flayer wrote:
Well, based on their individual skill and insight into how to utilize their heroes to win any given matchup, if Team Secret doesnt win TI5 I would be severely dissappointed. If they were on my team I would probably yell at them.

I think people were more forgiving towards DK because they are an eastern team. Personally, I felt very much let down by their inability to make it to the finals.


I can't think of a single sport based purely on human skill (so not formula 1), where I'd be severely disappointed if the favorite didn't win. Although they do have an amazing team right...

Puppey and s4 are masterminds, Kuroky so chill, very careful and analysis heavy play, Arteezy the mechanics machine... And zai... Well I don't know what to call him, but he's got those spider senses, very good at mind games and predicting moves to make those amazing initiations.

Still a lot can happen, I just wish TI was now, so Secret had a really big chance.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 09:18:08
June 13 2015 09:17 GMT
#1309
On June 13 2015 17:25 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 01:06 a_flayer wrote:
Well, based on their individual skill and insight into how to utilize their heroes to win any given matchup, if Team Secret doesnt win TI5 I would be severely dissappointed. If they were on my team I would probably yell at them.

I think people were more forgiving towards DK because they are an eastern team. Personally, I felt very much let down by their inability to make it to the finals.


I can't think of a single sport based purely on human skill (so not formula 1), where I'd be severely disappointed if the favorite didn't win. Although they do have an amazing team right...

Puppey and s4 are masterminds, Kuroky so chill, very careful and analysis heavy play, Arteezy the mechanics machine... And zai... Well I don't know what to call him, but he's got those spider senses, very good at mind games and predicting moves to make those amazing initiations.

Still a lot can happen, I just wish TI was now, so Secret had a really big chance.

This may be surprising but arteezy isn't just a good mechanic player but also the lategame decision making of Secret. A huge part of it for sure.
this is a quote
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 13 2015 11:05 GMT
#1310
On June 09 2015 05:00 Faruko wrote:
After Secret won MDL and EG lost agaisnt LC... i remember about this

http://nadota.com/showthread.php?33067-Zai-and-Arteezy-should-have-stayed-with-EG

lmao


Secret winning doesn't discredit this actually. The argument to be made is would old EG without the falling out have had a higher cap of success, which is something intangible. I still think they would have, as does many members of current EG/2014 EG.

All teams lose. How quickly people forget this very thread calling for blood when Secret was bombing out of tournaments (which were bo3). The only undeniable fact is EU should keep importing NA carries.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 12:35:42
June 13 2015 12:33 GMT
#1311
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be
Chill Winston......
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 13:41:10
June 13 2015 13:17 GMT
#1312
I think the new secret feels more versatile than EG 2014 (cause s4/rtz core vs fear/rtz core) but i think both rosters potential are rougly close and not that far off. If only EG didn't go full NA and went for internal issues mode.

Whatever the new EG is still pretty good (like ppd says probably not as good as the old eg but still good) with the addition of suma1l as long as he keeps improving and from refraining doing alot of stupid shit that he does currently.(like unnecessary feeding and being way too greed sometimes)

On June 13 2015 21:33 CursedRich wrote:
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be


not true rtz said in an interview that if they fixed the problems rather than going full children mode he thinks EG was like as good as secret

also EE is another NA carry on EU (yes c9 believe it or not EE is actually good and c9 is like EU team now)
this is a quote
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
June 13 2015 14:20 GMT
#1313
Most of the new blood seems to gravitate towards 1/2 and veterans play the less farm dependant positions. NA seems to have new blood tricking regularly into the scene, since most of the veterans have very little results (pretty much there's EG and that's it) so they are more open. EU is a lot more crowded.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 13 2015 21:01 GMT
#1314
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 15 2015 00:26 GMT
#1315
On June 13 2015 21:33 CursedRich wrote:
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be

There's 3 NA/EUwest teams that matter, all have NA carries. Using advanced science it's clear that euros need to import some more.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
June 15 2015 00:39 GMT
#1316
On June 15 2015 09:26 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 21:33 CursedRich wrote:
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be

There's 3 NA/EUwest teams that matter, all have NA carries. Using advanced science it's clear that euros need to import some more.


ok I guess CIS doesn't matter in your equation
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 15 2015 02:30 GMT
#1317
On June 15 2015 09:39 Nikto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 09:26 lolnoty wrote:
On June 13 2015 21:33 CursedRich wrote:
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be

There's 3 NA/EUwest teams that matter, all have NA carries. Using advanced science it's clear that euros need to import some more.


ok I guess CIS doesn't matter in your equation


well yeah that's why I typed EU west
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
June 15 2015 15:59 GMT
#1318
On June 15 2015 11:30 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 09:39 Nikto wrote:
On June 15 2015 09:26 lolnoty wrote:
On June 13 2015 21:33 CursedRich wrote:
Why is it undeniable that EU should import NA carries? theres only one in EU as far as I'm aware, you're upset EG fan?

The undeniable fact is that both Zai and RTZ thought they would be better off with Secret, and they will be

There's 3 NA/EUwest teams that matter, all have NA carries. Using advanced science it's clear that euros need to import some more.


ok I guess CIS doesn't matter in your equation


well yeah that's why I typed EU west


weird, cause Russia is considered part of Europe, them calling themselves CIS is well let's say, they have to be different in everything
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 15 2015 17:24 GMT
#1319
Russia is part of Asia.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 15 2015 17:26 GMT
#1320
Technically it's like a quarter Europe and three-quarters Asia.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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