On April 17 2015 20:55 Geo.Rion wrote: Some of HR's notable achievments from the past couple of weeks: 0-2 vs Basically unknown (huh?) 1-2 vs Asus.Polar 0-2 vs C9 1-1 vs BBC (whoever they might be) 1-1 vs Burden United
No one said they were beating everyone left and right. Apart from EG, Secret and C9, you can make the same point and find similar results for any team in the west/CIS.
HR has been the most solid/consistent team among the rest of them is my point.
As for the games vs Na'Vi I'd say they won due to a combination of being really good at coming back and Na'Vi failing to do what was needed at several key moments during the games, rather than luck. That PA crit near roshan during game 2 was huge but I don't remember any other instance of RNG going their way that much.
On April 17 2015 22:06 Kabras wrote: ? watch secret's latest games ?. nice techie picks, bloodstone sks and troll feeds. what they got going for them is that those weren't tournament deciding games, so i guess we'll have to wait for a big elimination match to tell for sure. i didn't call them really bad, i said that's how they have been looking because the struggles and losses against teams they were expected to beat easily. their absolute worst result is the dac 3rd place because no tournament they are in has actually finished yet, so again, the upcoming deciding matches will give us a better idea.
Na'Vi and Alliance's current rosters show arguably equal promise (Na'Vi might have the edge), but Alliance's roster was decided sooner and has been performing well for a longer period of time--they've had more chance to prove their potential. If only 1 of Na'Vi and Alliance get an invite, which will probably be the case, giving it to Na'Vi would be much more controversial than giving it to Alliance.
On April 18 2015 06:29 strayfire wrote: Na'Vi and Alliance's current rosters show arguably equal promise (Na'Vi might have the edge), but Alliance's roster was decided sooner and has been performing well for a longer period of time--they've had more chance to prove their potential. If only 1 of Na'Vi and Alliance get an invite, which will probably be the case, giving it to Na'Vi would be much more controversial than giving it to Alliance.
Alliance has barely re-entered a period of good performance (and they have been good) after a longer and deeper slump than Na'Vi. Even if you restrict the period to just post-TI4, Na'Vi, as bad as they've been, have gotten a lot more done than Alliance. At least that's the way I read it; could be proven wrong. Basically the way I see it is if you invite one and not the other you're just biasing one period over another when neither has been consistently good for any period this season. Na'Vi I think has done more overall but less recently. Neither deserves an invite IMO.
Anyway so Dendi started streaming:
"Playing some FACEIT Pro League with Artstyle Vanskor Sonneiko"
OK only missing two guys actively on the squad, good bootcamp so far.
On April 17 2015 21:44 Kabras wrote: performance wise it's pretty hard to invite any western teams other than eg and c9. secret has been looking really bad lately, they're probably still in the direct invite pool but if they don't get their shit together asap they might very well lose it. but since valve does need to invite more than 2-3 teams, i think polar is pretty much the only cis team that's gonna get invited for sure at this point. even with the mlg win i'm not sold on empire, i think another direct invite is being decided between them, navi, hr, nip and alliance. if none of them manage to convince volvo, icefrog might just pull a fast one on europe and give another slot to sea/china or have more wildcard slots. if only na had a better scene all these guys would be shittin' their pants. as it stands tho, looks like 1, maybe even 2 of these teams will get a direct invite.
Secret qualified for every tournament they entered and got top 3 DAC and this is looking really bad, would be like to know what you think about the other teams
On April 18 2015 05:16 PoP wrote: Well it's a close call at the very least.
As for the games vs Na'Vi I'd say they won due to a combination of being really good at coming back and Na'Vi failing to do what was needed at several key moments during the games, rather than luck. That PA crit near roshan during game 2 was huge but I don't remember any other instance of RNG going their way that much.
I was trolling with the first comment. It is the bias at its highest expression. I would never deny NaVi's lack of capability to realize that they lost games they were able to win, as in using RatDoto.
Edit: Between NaVi and Alliance I would invite Asus.P, between Asus.P and NIP I would invite HR, and ultimately, between HR and Empire I would invite any team with SingSing. That is how stable I see the CIS scene. Empire beating EG and losing to a one week old NaVi roster is as weird as a one week old NaVi beating Asus.P and Empire.
We also need to take into account that NaVi won every Bo1 series and lost the only Bo3 series. So... who knows.
They're sitting Funn1k, Dendi, Artstyle, Sonneiko, Xboct. Sonneiko's really loud/vocal... I'm liking it~ Lol at 6:15 Sonneiko's spam pinging xboct to get back Right before the fight where they get wiped except for Dendi, the team tells XBOCT to back, but after what seems to be a good fight (minus grouping up and getting dunked) they start muttering talking about how they didn't want to go in and such. Sonneiko at 7:33 says "Enough don't talk about that anymore!" and they just move along in the game. Personally, I love it that at least in game, they're focusing on the now and trying not to play on tilt?
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