Sigh. This team never changes.
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FHDH
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Sigh. This team never changes. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Arstyle seems to die a lot, what a n00b | ||
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govie
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On April 17 2015 08:01 Churrass wrote: HR invited to TI would be the joke of the year Follow this blog, it gets updated after each tournament. http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/475845-if-ti5-invites-were-today | ||
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PoP
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On April 17 2015 08:01 Churrass wrote: HR invited to TI would be the joke of the year Disagree with this. I'm not sure how many teams per region Valve usually invites, but HR looks like one of the most solid teams in the non-asian scene at the moment, period. As for yesterday series, must be very frustrating for Na'Vi. Two throws kinda, especially game 3. I hope they watch the replays and realize they need to learn to switch into rat dota mode when appropriate, even when that wasn't their initial plan. | ||
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FHDH
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On April 17 2015 17:22 PoP wrote: Disagree with this. I'm not sure how many teams per region Valve usually invites, but HR looks like one of the most solid teams in the non-asian scene at the moment, period Seriously, what? | ||
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PoP
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C9/Secret/EG, then who else? They do look stronger and more consistent than teams such as Empire, VP.Polar, NiP, PR and even Alliance at the moment. They had a more than decent DAC finishing top-5 in the groups. They're doing well in almost every league, just earned a spot for Red Bulls Battlegrounds LAN finals and are second in D2CL groupstage consisting of most teams mentioned above: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Dota_2_Champions_League/Season_5/Europe Also their lineup is stable as fuck which is pretty damn awesome these days. This should definitely count towards who gets invited imho. | ||
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Faruko
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Geo.Rion
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On April 17 2015 19:27 PoP wrote: C9/Secret/EG, then who else? They do look stronger and more consistent than teams such as Empire, VP.Polar, NiP, PR and even Alliance at the moment. They had a more than decent DAC finishing top-5 in the groups. They're doing well in almost every league, just earned a spot for Red Bulls Battlegrounds LAN finals and are second in D2CL groupstage consisting of most teams mentioned above: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Dota_2_Champions_League/Season_5/Europe Also their lineup is stable as fuck which is pretty damn awesome these days. This should definitely count towards who gets invited imho. Some of HR's notable achievments from the past couple of weeks: 0-2 vs Basically unknown (huh?) 1-2 vs Asus.Polar 0-2 vs C9 1-1 vs BBC (whoever they might be) 1-1 vs Burden United And they qualified from the CIS prelims to Redbull. Oh and beat Alliance, guess that s something nowadays. But i guess consistency is hard to define, being consistently mediocre still counts, right? | ||
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govie
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On April 17 2015 20:55 Geo.Rion wrote: Some of HR's notable achievments from the past couple of weeks: 0-2 vs Basically unknown (huh?) 1-2 vs Asus.Polar 0-2 vs C9 1-1 vs BBC (whoever they might be) 1-1 vs Burden United And they qualified from the CIS prelims to Redbull. Oh and beat Alliance, guess that s something nowadays. But i guess consistency is hard to define, being consistently mediocre still counts, right? its better to be consistently mediocre then being consistent at losing 3/4 of the year because your stars assume the navibrand is "too big to fall" anyway. | ||
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Kabras
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Geo.Rion
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On April 17 2015 21:44 Kabras wrote: performance wise it's pretty hard to invite any western teams other than eg and c9. secret has been looking really bad lately, they're probably still in the direct invite pool but if they don't get their shit together asap they might very well lose it. but since valve does need to invite more than 2-3 teams, i think polar is pretty much the only cis team that's gonna get invited for sure at this point. even with the mlg win i'm not sold on empire, i think another direct invite is being decided between them, navi, hr, nip and alliance. if none of them manage to convince volvo, icefrog might just pull a fast one on europe and give another slot to sea/china or have more wildcard slots. if only na had a better scene all these guys would be shittin' their pants. as it stands tho, looks like 1, maybe even 2 of these teams will get a direct invite. You guys blow my mind, just for fucks sake, look at some results before u post, they barely played lately, and they won every single game they played for 2 months straight, save for one loss to Alliance (and beat them twice). Their ELO is nr 1 worldwide, their absolute worst results is a 3rd place at DAC 3 months ago, where literally every big name was there, and even then they 15-0d the group stage. Just what parallel-universe did i drop into, when on the same page Secret is called "really bad" and HR "most consistent team, period", I want to think these guys are trolling but im afraid they re serious. How disconnected do u have to be from reality to even think these things, let alone write it down and post it on a public forum? | ||
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Faruko
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worst argument ever And you are actually contradicting yourself because you say "eg and c9 are the only worth invites", then say "their (secret) best place is 3rd DAC because there hasnt been any other tournament" Didnt Secret end up 3rd and c9 6th ? why would c9 has a better lead in the invitation race ifin the last tournament c9 result is worse than the team that doesnt deserve to be inivited ? what ? | ||
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goody153
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holy shit Kabras the bias you have is amazing apparently losing only 3 series the entire time after reshuffling makes you a really shitty team and doesn't deserve and invite LMFAO edit: ok seriously i sound mean .. anyways i disagree i mean it's like saying that if nobody with that kind of winrate deserves an invite then nobody should get invited. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On April 17 2015 22:13 Faruko wrote: EG lost against NiP and MVP and they got rekt by Empire with a standin in USA, they should not be invited because those arewin they should have really easy. worst argument ever And you are actually contradicting yourself because you say "eg and c9 are the only worth invites", then say "their (secret) best place is 3rd DAC because there hasnt been any other tournament" Didnt Secret end up 3rd and c9 6th ? why would c9 has a better lead in the invitation race ifin the last tournament c9 result is worse than the team that doesnt deserve to be inivited ? what ? u can't read or u don't want to read, i give up. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On April 17 2015 22:26 goody153 wrote: i like HR although i'm certain that they aren't the best and secret not deserving an invite ? ROFL holy shit Kabras the bias you have is amazing apparently losing only 3 series the entire time after reshuffling makes you a really shitty team and doesn't deserve and invite LMFAO what bias? it's just my opinion that secret sucks ass right now and that's based on their latest games i actually watched from start to finish. doesn't mean i'm right or wrong or that secret's not gonna get an invite because i don't think they deserve one. i actually said i think they're still in the direct invite pool but that they should watch out cuz they've been really sloppy, that's all. i think u guys should treat other people's opinions as opinions and not as ti5 invite deciding facts. | ||
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goody153
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On April 17 2015 22:33 Kabras wrote: what bias? it's just my opinion that secret sucks ass right now and that's based on their latest games i actually watched from start to finish. doesn't mean i'm right or wrong or that secret's not gonna get an invite because i don't think they deserve one. i actually said i think they're still in the direct invite pool but that they should watch out cuz they've been really sloppy, that's all. i think u guys should treat other people's opinions as opinions and not as ti5 invite deciding facts. state of a team changes every now and then look at c9 since DAC they looked super indecisive and absolute shit at times .. however a week before they picked up their shit and won 9 series straight the fact that secret only lost 3 series the entire time is since the reshuffle is pretty absurd and LGD was also an absolute shit but they stopped sucking ass too .. if they don't deserve an invite then what team actually deserves an invite ? | ||
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Romania3508 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On April 17 2015 20:40 Faruko wrote: EMPIRE ? Its not like they just won MLG and beat EG in the finals when going 0-1 They're strong for sure, but they're not that consistent. Also at MLG they had Funn1k as a standin. Not sure it made such a big difference but they looked a lot weaker yesterday and right before MLG too. They may just be a lot more comfortable in a LAN environment though. | ||
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