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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 18:03:47
December 16 2014 18:03 GMT
#1461
im just sad that most of the posts i want to report are already reported but mods havent done shit about them
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 16 2014 18:08 GMT
#1462
On December 17 2014 03:03 andyrau wrote:
im just sad that most of the posts i want to report are already reported but mods havent done shit about them

the state has more informants than enforcers
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28084 Posts
December 16 2014 18:53 GMT
#1463
we're trying to give new users a pass since they probably just made their accounts to post in the blog. We've warned anything that has been malicious though.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 16 2014 18:58 GMT
#1464
On December 17 2014 03:53 TheEmulator wrote:
we're trying to give new users a pass since they probably just made their accounts to post in the blog. We've warned anything that has been malicious though.

you've changed
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:00:57
December 16 2014 19:00 GMT
#1465
That blog jesus. I get that ee has the right to his opinion, and I get that hes a part of the community and its nice to have pros bringing traffic, but ye gods it brought out the crazies. I disagree with almost everything he said in that blog, but the comment sections make the rage so much worse.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 16 2014 19:02 GMT
#1466
im very new

I didnt read the comments but Im okay with the blogs.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
December 16 2014 19:03 GMT
#1467
Also torte I suggest you do some advertising with that carmac tweet. Becuase he kinda appeals to the lowest common denominator, due to being part of that group himself.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:10:56
December 16 2014 19:06 GMT
#1468
On December 17 2014 04:03 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Also torte I suggest you do some advertising with that carmac tweet. Becuase he kinda appeals to the lowest common denominator, due to being part of that group himself.


What do you mean? I tweeted him about it, but it got no love or return.

While many users in-game use my guides, it is usually not very well-known beyond (I think, especially to professional organizations, Valve or those people).

It's a very awkward subject where I get a good amount of appreciation/feedback, but I haven't hit that point where anything I produced is posted on Reddit or told to more prominent people.

An example is: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/471436-1-year-40-million-dota-builds-project-overview

I was hoping this would get passed around more, especially with how much effort I put into it, but it didn't and honestly, that's just how things go and I can't be attention-seeking like: "please read my shit, I'm important bla bla bla", it's just not who I am or who I want to be. I can put myself on a pedestal and assume what I'm doing is above others as that would assume people's interests or assume a self-importance perhaps not convinced to the masses.

So I'm literally stuck in the middle of just continuing to work hard as I do and hope more notice (honestly, it's not like the subscription numbers have slowed, so I am getting a return in users) or try and sellout and make myself more prominent/worth than I really am.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 19:08 GMT
#1469
he probably figured a pasta company was looking for a quick follow when he saw your tweet.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
December 16 2014 19:10 GMT
#1470
Torte thats because Carmac is basically the hot taeks guy of esports. Hes not out to be useful, hes there to say controversial shit and get attention for it.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:13:18
December 16 2014 19:12 GMT
#1471
On December 17 2014 04:10 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Torte thats because Carmac is basically the hot taeks guy of esports. Hes not out to be useful, hes there to say controversial shit and get attention for it.


Ah well, I'm glad he has that leeway to do it

I think even Nazgul didn't notice my work until a month ago, so it just goes to show that I'm under the radar AND I SHOULD BUY MORE FOLLOWERS OF COURSEEEEEEEEEEEEE

But in all truth, I'm still finding good jobs in the eSports industry, so the right people are looking at my work/writing/history of accomplishments. Should I really try for more?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2014 19:17 GMT
#1472
As someone who does shameless promotion for someone else, you don't do enough shameless promotion. Your guides are most valuable for newer players and you might want to promote them streamers and other folks. I don't think EE is doing to drop a line on his streams, but someone like Sir Action Slacks might to his fans.

Any time I teach a friend to play dota, the first thing I do is teach them to use the shop and then how to find your guide for any hero they might be playing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
December 16 2014 19:18 GMT
#1473
So are we ded? If we're just in the denial phase, somebody please inform so I could just skip through long gruelling grief stages and get it over. Honestly, I'm just burnt out.
it all matters
topy
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada7 Posts
December 16 2014 19:20 GMT
#1474
fags

User was warned for this post
<@Targe_> his girlfriend just gave birth outside in the snow <@Targe_> then left it there and went to bed
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 16 2014 19:21 GMT
#1475
On December 17 2014 04:18 molecu wrote:
So are we ded? If we're just in the denial phase, somebody please inform so I could just skip through long gruelling grief stages and get it over. Honestly, I'm just burnt out.

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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 19:24 GMT
#1476
On December 17 2014 04:18 molecu wrote:
So are we ded? If we're just in the denial phase, somebody please inform so I could just skip through long gruelling grief stages and get it over. Honestly, I'm just burnt out.


not even close to ded. our main developer has done nothing but put out balance changes that are based around professional play, not the average 1k mmr game like some other ded gaem I know and is referenced in my tag on LD (I gotta get that changed..)

torte - I agree with p6. advertise the shit outta your guides and try to get someone like slacks to give you a shoutout.

perhaps one day someone will catch wind and get you a super big shoutout.

luck = preparation plus opportunity. you're more than established and prepared, create an opportunity for yourself!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:29:13
December 16 2014 19:26 GMT
#1477
On December 17 2014 04:17 Plansix wrote:
As someone who does shameless promotion for someone else, you don't do enough shameless promotion. Your guides are most valuable for newer players and you might want to promote them streamers and other folks. I don't think EE is doing to drop a line on his streams, but someone like Sir Action Slacks might to his fans.

Any time I teach a friend to play dota, the first thing I do is teach them to use the shop and then how to find your guide for any hero they might be playing.


Bah, you're right. Especially in this world, I should just shrug off all the niceties and consideration of others and just spam spam spam.

Right now, all the guide creators quit pretty much. Since November actually, so I'm actually in no competition, it's not about using that basis of efforts to branch out into new opportunities. Though, not sure where as I am not looking to make any more money or self-promotion (unless fame is now a valid currency in Europe).

We'll see, this project is actually consuming full working hours (9 to 7) when a new patch hits or changes are made, so it's becoming a bit too time-consuming to be a side-project and I may need to start considering patreon or some shit (though it pains me to do that).

I'm not sure though what I want though. I could live with what I have now.

On December 17 2014 04:24 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 04:18 molecu wrote:
So are we ded? If we're just in the denial phase, somebody please inform so I could just skip through long gruelling grief stages and get it over. Honestly, I'm just burnt out.


not even close to ded. our main developer has done nothing but put out balance changes that are based around professional play, not the average 1k mmr game like some other ded gaem I know and is referenced in my tag on LD (I gotta get that changed..)

torte - I agree with p6. advertise the shit outta your guides and try to get someone like slacks to give you a shoutout.

perhaps one day someone will catch wind and get you a super big shoutout.

luck = preparation plus opportunity. you're more than established and prepared, create an opportunity for yourself!


Yeah, but what's the point?

As I said, I have a mainstream job working on a project for eSports, so I'm not looking for more work/opportunities (right now).
More followers/interest is a double-edged sword and I don't really need it

and I don't need the money thanks to this new job (so far, maybe in the future if things don't work out).

So it would just be more fame/attention, maybe branch off into projects I'd like to get involved in (player association, visiting Valve to pitch ideas for CSGO/Dota 2 and work on my free time) or just visit events (though this new job may lend itself to that).

sooooooooooo
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 19:27 GMT
#1478
email icefrog. im serious.

tell him you want to be in touch with someone about making guides better so that new users are less intimidated.

apparently he actually answers emails so you never know!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:29:59
December 16 2014 19:29 GMT
#1479
On December 17 2014 04:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
email icefrog. im serious.

tell him you want to be in touch with someone about making guides better so that new users are less intimidated.

apparently he actually answers emails so you never know!


I'll sign: from off-topic liquidota to you <3

I replied to your post above ^^

(what's his email, I' emailed Dota 2 staff once but never got a reply)
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 16 2014 19:29 GMT
#1480
On December 17 2014 03:08 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 03:03 andyrau wrote:
im just sad that most of the posts i want to report are already reported but mods havent done shit about them

the state has more informants than enforcers

Hard to keep up when I'm at work. Pretty sure other than firebolt our mods are mostly US people.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
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