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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
December 16 2014 12:46 GMT
#1421
Guys guys, that hilarious EE blog is the perfect ground for us to raise our report %.
All these single digit posters shitposting, so ez to nuke them.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 16 2014 12:49 GMT
#1422
Doe butt is now the fastest butt! Suck it haters!
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
December 16 2014 14:19 GMT
#1423
How high would EE's blog raise the regular users after a while? up to 700? 500? 400?
it all matters
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 16 2014 14:23 GMT
#1424
lol i think ud be happy if ud get xx regular users
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
December 16 2014 14:27 GMT
#1425
we still have 2k active user. ACTIVE.

EE SAMA BRINGER OF LIQUID DOTA RENAISSANCE
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#1426
On December 16 2014 23:19 molecu wrote:
How high would EE's blog raise the regular users after a while? up to 700? 500? 400?

dunno but it'll probably stop when it drops off front page of r/dota2
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
December 16 2014 14:31 GMT
#1427
i would've cared a bit more about the dota scene if only Liquid has a team.

gonna be a boring TI5 for me whatever happens. no Liquid magic.

i'll just cry in this corner right here
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2014 14:32 GMT
#1428
Pretty much all reddit. And high numbers does not equal quality posting. Soon we will get paralleluniverse JR, telling us that Dota all about broken heroes and attempting to take the title of Graph Lord.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 16 2014 14:35 GMT
#1429
On December 16 2014 23:31 icystorage wrote:
i would've cared a bit more about the dota scene if only Liquid has a team.

gonna be a boring TI5 for me whatever happens. no Liquid magic.

i'll just cry in this corner right here

i think nazguls gonna join u in this corner :Y
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 16 2014 14:40 GMT
#1430
On December 16 2014 23:32 Plansix wrote:
Pretty much all reddit. And high numbers does not equal quality posting. Soon we will get paralleluniverse JR, telling us that Dota all about broken heroes and attempting to take the title of Graph Lord.

he made big post in the sydney siege thread without a graph, i didnt know what to think of it
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 14:59 GMT
#1431
the ee blog was interesting but I think its all stuff we pretty much already knew or agreed with.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2014 15:05 GMT
#1432
I think there is value in everyone from casters to players voicing a similar opinion. It provides information for the fans and gives them a better idea of what the players are dealing with.

I personally think one of the main problems is travel and jet lag. That shit can knock you out for a week and the fact that players are dealing with it so much has to be effecting them. And staying in hotels all the time also sucks a lot. Its part of the job, but at some point players are just going to burn out on that shit.

But we are seeing the first stage of correcting the issue with EG pulling out of Starladder. More teams just need to start doing that and their managers really thinking about the travel and what it will do for their practice.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 16 2014 15:10 GMT
#1433
On December 16 2014 23:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
the ee blog was interesting but I think its all stuff we pretty much already knew or agreed with.

I don't agree with there being too many tournaments, i completely agree with ixmike on this matter.


From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
December 16 2014 15:23 GMT
#1434
The thing for me is, you don't pull out for things you agree too. Learn to commit. Don't sign up if you don't agree in the first place.

My take on Starladder is that it has always been a "ladder" for star players. I think they just need to emphasize the Ladder part, ramp up the prize pool to 500k(not impossible) and fix their scheduling. If Arteezy or EE or anyone else don't wanna play, then don't.
it all matters
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1435
On December 17 2014 00:10 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 23:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
the ee blog was interesting but I think its all stuff we pretty much already knew or agreed with.

I don't agree with there being too many tournaments, i completely agree with ixmike on this matter.

https://twitter.com/ixmike88/status/544747860034457600


dunno. my personal opinion is that the frequency of a tournament reduces the hype and makes people less likely to buy tickets or watch if you're watching the same production every 3 months.

if orgs don't reduce the # they have and people start being selective, there will be some tournies with only a few big names scooping up the cash bc they don't have competition and no one will bother to watch the matches. similarly, if you have no big name teams enter, the organization won't make money from sales bc no one cares.

if people start being selective, tournaments will HAVE to cut in order to compensate.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 16:07:35
December 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#1436
How the hell is that any different from simply reducing the number of tournaments?
If there is enough viewership to support the tournaments, they'll stick around.
If people and players begin being selective the number of tournaments will drop naturally and will settle at whatever the viewership supports.

There isn't too many tournaments as long as there are enough viewers and money to support that number of tournaments. Sure the hype might be ruined and you'll see match-ups multiple times, but somehow that hasn't killed or ruined the viewership yet, there are still plenty of viewers.

We'll continue to have the number of tournaments we have as long as the scene can support it in regards to viewership and money unless the players start being selective.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1437
that's literally the exact point I just made lol
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 16 2014 16:12 GMT
#1438
I do like how we are all saying the same thing, but yet still arguing about it. The internet folks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 16:15:36
December 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#1439
You and the blog say it as though the organizations have to reduce the number of tournaments they host. That isn't how it works, why would they reduce the number if it's currently profitable to shit out tournaments 24/7?
Players and viewers have to be selective, if the dota2 pros keep acting like spoiled divas, trying to play in every single fucking tournament that gets produced and then just dropping out in the middle of the tournament we'll probably see a decline of tournaments for a very different reason, because people don't want to watch anymore.

The players have the power to fix a huge part of this problem, but they don't, they will gladly whine about it though.

If C9 and EG feel that there should only be half as many tournaments, then only sign up for half as many tournaments, voila i just fixed their problem for them in regards to too much travelling and too many officials.
I mean they drop out of half the tournaments after playing the first half of the games in the online qualifier anyway(hyperbole) so it wouldn't make a damn difference in the end in regards to prize money either.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2014 16:17 GMT
#1440
I think EE explained plenty well why they can't really just opt out of half the tournaments. There's a TI to get to and always the chance that you won't do well at the tournaments that you do sign up for. Hell secret failed to qualify for dreamhack imagine if they hadn't signed up for other tournaments.
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