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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
orgs will be forced to reduce the amount of tournaments and then most teams will actually be able to play all of the tournaments out there. its basically a differential equation except instead of the fox and bunny example, its teams and tournament organizers. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Just because he said it differently doesn't mean you are both not making the exact same point. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 17 2014 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote: I think EE explained plenty well why they can't really just opt out of half the tournaments. There's a TI to get to and always the chance that you won't do well at the tournaments that you do sign up for. Hell secret failed to qualify for dreamhack imagine if they hadn't signed up for other tournaments. But they end up dropping out of a ton of the tournaments anyway in the end, it's pretty common in the scene that a top tier team just drops out of a tournament in the middle of it, sign up for fewer tournaments and perform better in those instead of apparently being super stressed out and performing poorly due to stress/not caring. If the players aren't selective the problem will not go away until the amount of tournaments begin dropping because viewers simply don't care anymore. Organizations wont stop producing tournaments as long as it's profitable, which it is as longer as the viewers care. One thing organizers could do however is just inviting more pro teams directly instead of all the bullshit online qualifiers for qualifiers, that's something i agree completely with. But again, they probably wont because it's simply too profitable and brings in too much viewership to have that online qualifier running. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On December 17 2014 01:15 Unleashing wrote: You and the blog say it as though the organizations have to reduce the number of tournaments they host. That isn't how it works, why would they reduce the number if it's currently profitable to shit out tournaments 24/7? | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
We gotta watch them all. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
The other concerns from EE's blog form the players' point of view like how badly are treated with flights, being forced to play in long qualifiers, dysfunctional PCs and stuff are probably very valid, tho. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
However, players do need to speak up about shit quality PCs, shit quality housing and treatment at events where that is handled by the event runner and excessive qualifiers. I do not like the idea that the players should be just happy with whatever shit the event forces them to put up with. No one wants so many games that players are phoning it in because they are on their 7th best of 3 for the week against some team. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On December 17 2014 02:00 Plansix wrote: However, players do need to speak up about shit quality PCs, shit quality housing and treatment at events where that is handled by the event runner and excessive qualifiers. I agree entirely with this, the players should be treated properly at events and stuff. Like the no bathroom break stuff was completely dumb, same with poor PC quality and organizers buying the cheapest possible flight plans to the event etc. that kind of shit isn't acceptable. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 17 2014 02:02 Qbek wrote: Players should speak up to their manager and tell him to deal with it. These are all people on sponsored teams ffs, they can do it professionally. A little of both I think is fine. EEs blog pretty much takes everyone to task about issues. Once again, I would rather people be aware of this stuff so when C9 says "Nah, we are not going to Starladder because last time they shoved us in a single hotel room and there were no practice PCs" everyone says "seems legit". A little player push back is fine. Excessive whining over the span of several months is not. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Tbh, I still think it's hilarious that players whine about it so publically, it should be handled behind the scenes, but I guess the maturity and professionalism just isn't there for all involved parties. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
also lol @ backseat moderation. good label | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On December 17 2014 02:31 Torte de Lini wrote: OMG KEEP THIS SHIT OUT OF OFF-TOPIC FFS bold text is too far m80 | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I wish there was something in-between bold and /big. It's so frustrating because bold is too flashy, but /big is strange looking underline just looks wrong everywhere On December 17 2014 02:34 Plansix wrote: Someone is grumpy about having to update all those guides and not being appreciated by Carmac. you gut me mate | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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