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gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
January 05 2009 02:41 GMT
#201
On January 04 2009 07:03 Shadowfury333 wrote:
Mechanics. Protoss can easily hotkey their entire army in any MU, while having spare hotkeys for nexus(es?). Also the fact that a single probe can make an entire base in no time is another factor. Terran and Zerg both have to control units without control groups, and they generally have to micro rather carefully (Terran Siege and Stim Pack, Zerg Mutalisk stack and Lurker Burrow. Protoss has...Dragoon hold position and zealot a-move.)

That's basically why people seem to think that. I probably missed something, but that's the gist of what I've gathered from other posters.


yeah but dont protoss have to deal with temps, arbs, reavers, shuttles, and carriers in battle. I mean actually planting spells with individual units and picking up and taking down units in shuttle, while building scarabs or carrier interceptors? Late game would b hell.
I mean jaedong had said that using a quees was hard bc he had to deal with another unit besides just the defiler, so wouldnt that mean protoss has to magnify that. It doesnt show up as much in apm i would think, but it would in precision decision making.
Taek Bang
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3467 Posts
January 05 2009 02:43 GMT
#202
well i remember a while ago when i started (98) someone told me: if u start get T,wall and wait then roll out. Then try P, then try Z. When u feel confi with those 3 get back to T and you shall win, Z will give you macro, and P will give you sense of the game"

I started T, was too passive, then took Z. I played a bit from time to time with it for about 4yrs (those were the days of mass hydra vs mass archons )

And then BW came, MMs with em and maelstorm/storm. I found the dark archons so cool that i took P. I still suck, but i still like P because i think it s fun to play. Doesnt matter if i dont even have 50% on iccup, i ll never be a gosu anyways,

PLAY FOR FUN!
Horang2 fan
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 05 2009 02:46 GMT
#203
On January 05 2009 11:40 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:31 OneOther wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:27 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:12 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:02 clazziquai wrote:
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:


Well "1a2a3a" doesn't work in pvp..


4gate medusa 1a2a3a gg

1a2a3a
SLASH

gg


is that the sound of a DT? If so, 2gate dt 1a.. gg


It is funny because to stop dt/reaver all a terran has to do is make an e-bay. Think about it. Heres a quick guide for you. In easy to understand steps.

1. Scout the protoss's tech
2. If you see robo or citidel make turrents
3. If not already get mines
4. Lay the mines down in places where the DT / Shuttle may travel
5. Kill the "cheese" attemp
6. Macro
7. Counter
8. Probably will just have too 1a2a3a since protoss will be weak
Dark_Star
Profile Joined April 2008
Chile19 Posts
January 05 2009 02:52 GMT
#204
because the well knowed 1a2a3a
you know what im talking bout?
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
January 05 2009 03:26 GMT
#205
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O
Why So Serious?!
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 05 2009 03:29 GMT
#206
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


Except you need more hotkeys of units and 5 lurkers will completely roll your army in 5 seconds if you don't pay attention
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
January 05 2009 03:34 GMT
#207
On January 05 2009 12:29 Azrael1111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


Except you need more hotkeys of units and 5 lurkers will completely roll your army in 5 seconds if you don't pay attention


wont 5 lurks run over any army if u dont pay attention
Taek Bang
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 03:35:38
January 05 2009 03:35 GMT
#208
^ lol that's funny.
protoss units are so strong....-.-
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
January 05 2009 03:37 GMT
#209
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


u forgot 2t and 3t bro
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 05 2009 03:37 GMT
#210
On January 05 2009 12:29 Azrael1111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


Except you need more hotkeys of units and 5 lurkers will completely roll your army in 5 seconds if you don't pay attention

and what happens to a protoss army if you 1a2a3a4a to spider mines?
while i agree that protoss is easiest at the low levels (D-/D/D+/C-), this thread is becoming more retarded by each second.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
January 05 2009 03:39 GMT
#211
terran is to my penis as protoss is to your mother
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
January 05 2009 03:45 GMT
#212
On January 05 2009 11:06 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 10:59 IdrA wrote:
On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.

ya there wouldnt be so many foreign z's and t's dominating if it were really imbalanced
ohwaito_o


Haha okay thats fair


Don't fucking tell him that. Greg I love you but you need to cut that shit out. The only reason that there are more top foreign Protoss users than Z or T is because they worked harder at it. It is simply a fluke. If LX choose Terran and practiced equally as hard with his T as he did with his P he would be the same level he is at now. It's all a fluke, don't try to tell us Protoss users that our race is easier because our race worked harder than yours.

Think about how much practice White-Ra, IefNaij, NonY, Cloud, PJ, LX etc... etc... worked on there game and then think about all of the good but not top foreign Terrans and Zergs and tell me they have put in as much practice over such a long period of time and the only reason they aren't as good as the players I mentioned above is because Protoss is easier. So stupid.
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 05 2009 03:56 GMT
#213
On January 05 2009 12:37 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 12:29 Azrael1111 wrote:
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


Except you need more hotkeys of units and 5 lurkers will completely roll your army in 5 seconds if you don't pay attention

and what happens to a protoss army if you 1a2a3a4a to spider mines?
while i agree that protoss is easiest at the low levels (D-/D/D+/C-), this thread is becoming more retarded by each second.


the speedlots tank them
firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
January 05 2009 04:01 GMT
#214
Hey, you don't have to lay mines, siege the tanks or burrow your lurkers in the EXACT POSITION.
Just select, move or attack move.
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
January 05 2009 04:05 GMT
#215
On January 05 2009 11:28 petzergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
There is almost no zerg near the top except Jaedong (he would probably be much better had he focused on Protoss when he started).

holy shit there are so many golden quotes in this thread

Few points I want to throw out

1. Protoss users say PvT is hard at higher levels because they only got to higher levels doing DT rush and 1a2a3a instead of learning mechanics in the first place (salv)

2. Protoss users cry about PvZ zerg all in/cheese simply because it is impossible for a zerg to beat a protoss of equal skill at low level straight up, it is so imbalanced.

3. Join games of protoss users on ICC and switch to protoss, they will kick/leave because they cannot play a matchup that does not give them a definite advantage.

I don't understand the actual post, is it the ability to get wins period or the ability to get wins from straight up 1v1? Honestly protoss is such a fucking cheese race that when a protoss plays straight up against me I consider it cheese simply because there is no way I could have expected it



a few points that I wanna throw about this post that was clearly inspired by nerdrage

1. what the fuck is so imba about DT rush? if you dont scout it and you dont prepare for it you will die, just like if i dont scout your 2fac and dont prepare for it i will also die.

2. So wait what your saying here is dt rushing is imba so its gay, but its ok for zerg to cheese?
Even if it is that imbalanced, suck it up princess, its not nearly as imbalanced as zvp used to be for 8 years, payback is a bitch huh?

3. In 70-80 games this season and around the same last season and a few seasons ago this has yet to happen to me.

4. if you got past D+ maybe you wouldnt get cheesed so much. But you probably never will.
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 04:27:20
January 05 2009 04:06 GMT
#216
On January 05 2009 12:37 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 12:29 Azrael1111 wrote:
On January 05 2009 12:26 mIsUZu wrote:
Here's a little insider to tvz for those terrans that thinks p is alla bout 1a2a3a.

1t1a2a3a4a

ZOMG T imbal T easiest T is for noobs

o.O


Except you need more hotkeys of units and 5 lurkers will completely roll your army in 5 seconds if you don't pay attention

and what happens to a protoss army if you 1a2a3a4a to spider mines?
while i agree that protoss is easiest at the low levels (D-/D/D+/C-), this thread is becoming more retarded by each second.


Terran has to invest far more time and actions into planting a mine field while zerg can simply burrow, so the danger of getting raped by lurkers is greater. Also by the time you react, you'll have lost way much as a terran vs lurkers than a toss vs mines.
UnS)DeathTrap
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada150 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 04:13:57
January 05 2009 04:12 GMT
#217
I'm tired of playing PvP on iccup.
it seems that the majority of players in ranks d- to c+ are P players
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 05 2009 04:20 GMT
#218
On January 05 2009 11:28 petzergling wrote:
1. Protoss users say PvT is hard at higher levels because they only got to higher levels doing DT rush and 1a2a3a instead of learning mechanics in the first place (salv)



Who the fuck are you?
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
January 05 2009 04:22 GMT
#219
On January 05 2009 12:45 G5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:06 Chill wrote:
On January 05 2009 10:59 IdrA wrote:
On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.

ya there wouldnt be so many foreign z's and t's dominating if it were really imbalanced
ohwaito_o


Haha okay thats fair


Don't fucking tell him that. Greg I love you but you need to cut that shit out. The only reason that there are more top foreign Protoss users than Z or T is because they worked harder at it. It is simply a fluke. If LX choose Terran and practiced equally as hard with his T as he did with his P he would be the same level he is at now. It's all a fluke, don't try to tell us Protoss users that our race is easier because our race worked harder than yours.

Think about how much practice White-Ra, IefNaij, NonY, Cloud, PJ, LX etc... etc... worked on there game and then think about all of the good but not top foreign Terrans and Zergs and tell me they have put in as much practice over such a long period of time and the only reason they aren't as good as the players I mentioned above is because Protoss is easier. So stupid.

So an entire race of players just happen to work harder than the other 2 races?
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dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
January 05 2009 04:23 GMT
#220
On January 05 2009 13:20 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:28 petzergling wrote:
1. Protoss users say PvT is hard at higher levels because they only got to higher levels doing DT rush and 1a2a3a instead of learning mechanics in the first place (salv)



Who the fuck are you?


LOLOL
man this thread is hilarious
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