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Why is Protoss easy? - Page 9
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
This poll invalidates your life! | ||
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Spike
United States1392 Posts
This doesn't mean they are the best race or that playing protoss requires no skill/strategy at all (obviously needed at higher levels) so I don't know why so many people are upset. When I first started out, I tried all 3 races and eventually used Protoss exclusively because: 1) Probe's ability to build buildings without pause. 2) Protoss units have a lot more HP and therefore were a lot more forgiving. 3) Protoss usually doesn't have as many units as Terrans/Zergs (well, mostly zerg in this aspect) and therefore were easier to manage. 4) The army compositions for Protoss are all very similar. You can never go wrong with zealots+goons. 5) When you're first starting out, beside storms, you really just 1a2a3a4a when you attack. 6) 1+2+3+4+5 makes for easy micro/macro when compared to Terran and Zerg 7) 1+2+3+4+5+6 means that you can get away with a low APM (which I have of course). Also... To me, Protoss build orders seems easy to learn/copy when compared to that of Terran and Zerg. There's more but I'll just leave it at that. hmmm, love the poll. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
The joke lives on. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On January 05 2009 07:03 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote: In stratagy thread you always see protoss players asking how top stop zerg cheese, and the answer is SCOUT. You terrans don't even need to make any fair attemp at scouting in PvZ you have to dance your probes around speed lings early on too see what zerg is doing. But you terrans just need to float your fucking buildings into protoss base OR SCANNNNNN. What happens when you do scout reaver or dt drop? GG make an e-bay. YOU CALL VULTURES FAIR? 75 minerals and you get a machine that rapes probes and zealots. You also get 3 mines that hide in the ground (Great for scouting) then explode when you walk on them causing mass damage and even splash damage. IMBAAAA OH my god a terran bitching about spreading his units only during late game and only vs statis on arbs. It's not like protoss has to spread there units vs tank splash noooooo we just 1a2a3a and its over. vultures are unfair to you because they can kill probes easy? sure. maybe that's your fault you don't build CANNONS. which leads me to terran expos. it's hard as hell to defend on maps like python. it's not our fault we dont have any good static defense (THAT ATTACKS BOTH AIR/GROUND). mines rarely do much damage, as long as you have observers all over the map. i play pvt for masami and he does that and i find NO trouble with mines since my observers are basically like maphack. i see when the terran expos-> i attack, pretty easy. dont even bring pvz into this, you probably just don't even know how to scout. and lifting buildings like barracks over to another protoss base would only work if (on python), our bases were 12/3 and 6/9. e-bay outside theirr base and lifting sometimes works, but not if you're playing a good protoss. don't even dare argue that protoss in a bit in the lower levels is "hard". look at the poll, statistics prove a lot. | ||
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mIsUZu
New Zealand528 Posts
TvP is hard, pufff... Go watch some OOV vods.. or Nada.. Or Boxer's back in their prime.. The fact is, every race is hard at some point but just terrans feel they need to have rugged mu like tvz applied on tvp as well but they don't, hence they feel protoss is easy :p Yes I feel sorry for zergs because zvt is just not right, something is seriously required to fix this but as for zvp, it was ok until the 6dragons showed up and is reasonable as lux/july/jd/calm does good job of it. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
i played protoss and found it pretty easy until C level | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
Whenever I play on iCCup, I don't give a shit about what everyone else supposedly call "imbalances". I lose because I'm the worse player. I lose because I didn't play my best and I managed to make mistakes. Not some stupid "imbalance" or weakness in my race. These things are inherently in each race and bitching about it does nothing to change it. The only thing you can do it play to get better so that you can abuse your own "imbalances" and negate your opponent's. That's why I don't come out of a game and complain about such and such, I realize that I was the one that made a mistake. A la BoxeR's mindset, the only opponent is yourself. If you lose, it's not because the guy on the other side of the map beat you, it's because you let yourself down. | ||
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Muey
Finland149 Posts
zerg are just icky and gooey like chill's armpits eww terran are dumb rednecks and probably gay too, not cool at all dude Why I play protoss. | ||
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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
Terran requires much more multi-tasking and zerg requires much more game sense. | ||
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Love.Zelduck
United States170 Posts
At the low levels, you will lose to someone who plays better than you, regardless of their race. Each of the 3 races have things that make them harder to play and things that make them easier to play. It's ridiculous to claim that any one race is easier than the others. Easier how? To win? Why don't you see nothing but Protoss winning every game? Easier mechanics? The best players don't complain about the number of hotkeys they need, and all 3 races give you something to do at all times. When someone's learning a game, a lot of times (I'm speaking from fighting game experience here) when he has trouble figuring out how to beat something, he claims it's overpowered and goes looking for tier lists or some other evidence to justify how unfair the matchup is. When you're new, your bad, and you will lose. Don't go changing characters (races) thinking that you'll automatically be better. You may start getting easier wins, but in the long run, you end up playing something that doesn't suit your style and you never truly improve yourself in the way that you could by sticking with your style and learning to overcome your weaknesses, not run away from them. Honestly, that's a life lesson right there. If you're trying to hide from your weaknesses by staying in your strengths, you'll stunt your growth as a person, and you will never become anything great. Life is about dealing with obstacles and overcoming them. All 3 races are hard, all 3 races are fun, all 3 races have their advantages and disadvantages, their ups and downs. Play what you like best, play to learn, play to win, and play to have fun. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I played a PvT, did a sick reaver drop, macroed off 3 base until i had 100 supply goons. Then I attack moved into his base and won. This was a D+ terran mind you. Then I played a TvP against a D- protoss and lost. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 05 2009 09:08 Muey wrote: Protoss is best, they are the coolest and have the pimpest shit and do all the pimpest moves zerg are just icky and gooey like chill's armpits eww terran are dumb rednecks and probably gay too, not cool at all dude Why I play protoss. wow you're an incredible poster. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
While Terrans and Protoss players use Worker-cutting on special occasions, the only way Zerg get's any army is to cut workers, and the only way to get workers is to cut army. That is a big deal right there. On the other hand, I'd say terran is the most multitask demanding, simply because their units require attention to be worthwile. 1 vulture vs 1 zealot without any micro? Laughable, easy job for Zealot. Make it 2 vultures vs 1 zealot without any micro, my guess is zealot still wins. The same principle applies to basically any terran unit. | ||
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
On January 05 2009 08:34 clazziquai wrote: vultures are unfair to you because they can kill probes easy? sure. maybe that's your fault you don't build CANNONS. which leads me to terran expos. it's hard as hell to defend on maps like python. it's not our fault we dont have any good static defense (THAT ATTACKS BOTH AIR/GROUND). mines rarely do much damage, as long as you have observers all over the map. i play pvt for masami and he does that and i find NO trouble with mines since my observers are basically like maphack. i see when the terran expos-> i attack, pretty easy. dont even bring pvz into this, you probably just don't even know how to scout. and lifting buildings like barracks over to another protoss base would only work if (on python), our bases were 12/3 and 6/9. e-bay outside theirr base and lifting sometimes works, but not if you're playing a good protoss. don't even dare argue that protoss in a bit in the lower levels is "hard". look at the poll, statistics prove a lot. This reply made me laugh fairly hard. You could say "your just bad" for any argument here. (here goes my attemp at it) The reason why you think protoss is easy, is just because you lose vs protoss and your not only a noob but a bad loser. | ||
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Muey
Finland149 Posts
Why thank you, I think so too! This thread is just so incredible I that I just couldn't let go the chance to grace it with a bit of my equally incredible posting! I guess I could post about how my incredible D+ toss A-move skills net me awesome wins at the D level when 2facting offrace TvP instead, but that'd actually just shit the thread further up. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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mIsUZu
New Zealand528 Posts
So theoratically when you get really advanced, say B++ level ish on icc, Terrans are much more likely going to enjoy exploiting all these micro bonuses that protosses can not and have to just deal with it. Ya attack move zeals goons are nice but mine everywhere then siege trenching and then just watching protoss get creamed as they blindly charge is another thing. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On January 05 2009 09:53 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote: This reply made me laugh fairly hard. You could say "your just bad" for any argument here. (here goes my attemp at it) The reason why you think protoss is easy, is just because you lose vs protoss and your not only a noob but a bad loser. Protoss is easy because I HAVE played Protoss, got to C with it, thus I know the difference between Protoss and Terran. Protoss is just so less demanding. How am I a bad loser? I still win vs Protoss on ICCUP. In fact my 30-26 record on ICCUP is 99% TvP. Yet I complain. Why? Because Terran requires just so much more, yet that's what makes it fun. I want to challenge myself, but sometimes TvP is just too fucking hard. I find no fun with Protoss, at all. P = 1a2a3a ezpz | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
this says it all. ty! | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
This thread sucks though. Of course Protoss are the easiest. | ||
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