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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 01:29:10
January 05 2009 01:25 GMT
#181
On January 05 2009 09:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Today I was on iccup where I almost always lose as my main race (Terran).

I played a PvT, did a sick reaver drop, macroed off 3 base until i had 100 supply goons. Then I attack moved into his base and won.

This was a D+ terran mind you.

Then I played a TvP against a D- protoss and lost.


Maybe you're just really bad at playing Terran. Did you ever think about that? Maybe you just suck altogether!

It's funny how finally Protoss has some good players that are doing well in the leagues and PvZ was changed so that Protoss has a chance now, and then everyone cries and whines. Especially the Zergs. Zergs are the biggest whiners ever.

W/e, I'll continue dropping Reavers in your mineral lines and DT sneaking.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
January 05 2009 01:27 GMT
#182
There aint no taste like the taste of tears from all the "1a2a3a" noobs
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 01:31:09
January 05 2009 01:30 GMT
#183
protoss usrs r fags look at intotherainbow, or dumbasses ilke therock........ Reach is just an exception. All the cooolios are all terrans, look at nada, boxer, oov...etc. Terrans like hwasin, are just wannabe manly and trying to fit in with the studs, but he's still a fag.

Gay zealot: GO PRTOOSS>..
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
January 05 2009 01:37 GMT
#184
On low levels protoss is easier because the mechanics and strategic concepts are a little more simple than for the other races. It's pointless to bring up specific details beyond this. Either accept that the races are totally unique or play WC2. I agree with this post:

On January 05 2009 09:35 niteReloaded wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a terran player, but I'll admit that Zerg requires most Game Sense just because zerg has the most decisions to make the entire game.

While Terrans and Protoss players use Worker-cutting on special occasions, the only way Zerg get's any army is to cut workers, and the only way to get workers is to cut army.

That is a big deal right there.

On the other hand, I'd say terran is the most multitask demanding, simply because their units require attention to be worthwile.

1 vulture vs 1 zealot without any micro? Laughable, easy job for Zealot.

Make it 2 vultures vs 1 zealot without any micro, my guess is zealot still wins.

The same principle applies to basically any terran unit.


On pro level, easy is the wrong word I think. But it seems like protoss is really the strongest race these days with the modern streamlined playstyle and the way maps are designed. I really wonder if there will ever be a new turn around with another race claiming the top. I doubt it.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 05 2009 01:45 GMT
#185
Maybe someone could help me with a problem I am having, EVERTIME I lose its only to a hacking noob. I don't understand why there is SOOOOO many hackers.
LonGGone
Profile Joined June 2004
121 Posts
January 05 2009 01:48 GMT
#186
how do u know they hack? is it cause ur bad and lose alot?
You cant be a god if noone worships you
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 05 2009 01:49 GMT
#187
If i lose automatically the opponent must have some unfair advantage over me. Nothing else even comes remotely close to making sense.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
January 05 2009 01:53 GMT
#188
mechanically Protoss is the easiest. strategy wise Zerg is the easiest. Terran is the most adaptable to maps and doesn't get fucked hard in certain map pools which is a big advantage as far as consistancy goes. Terran and Zerg also have units such as the Lurker / Siege tank which you can burrow / siege and leave them forever to do there job. Zerg you can waste a shit load of units as well and still be ok where as Terran / Protoss can't. Terran and Zerg can basically do the same thing every game and be alright as well, Protoss is a more strategically sophisticated race, especially at top foreign / progamer levels where Protoss has to use more ingenious builds to compensate for maps / being directly countered etc... Protoss actually has about the same amount of cheese / all-in builds as Zerg where Terran has very limited cheese / all-in builds which is actually a disadv to Terran. I can go on and on but to say Protoss is the easiest because of the simple fact that Mechanically they are easier is retarded. Protoss has a lot more mind games to play then the other races and if you add all of the things up, each race is unique in its own way, there strengths and weakness' but tbh I think they are all equal which is why I love this game and why its still around 10-11 years after its creation.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
January 05 2009 01:57 GMT
#189
On January 05 2009 10:49 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
If i lose automatically the opponent must have some unfair advantage over me. Nothing else even comes remotely close to making sense.


i laugh at your stupidity.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
January 05 2009 01:58 GMT
#190
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 02:00:36
January 05 2009 01:58 GMT
#191
On January 05 2009 10:57 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 10:49 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
If i lose automatically the opponent must have some unfair advantage over me. Nothing else even comes remotely close to making sense.


i laugh at your stupidity.


I laugh at your stupidity, since you been making shit up this entire thread and the only way to fight your stupidity is with other stupidity since you don't understand anything else.

On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.


Ok so lets say that it is "EZ AT LOW LEVELS" and "HARD AT HIGH LEVELS" wouldn't that mean that it balances itself out and overall is not an easy "1a2a3a" race. -2 + 2 = 0?

and nice job on tl-attack
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 05 2009 01:59 GMT
#192
On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.

ya there wouldnt be so many foreign z's and t's dominating if it were really imbalanced
ohwaito_o

http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
January 05 2009 02:02 GMT
#193
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-05 02:04:29
January 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#194
On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.


i think protoss might be the easiest race to get decent at.
it also probably requires the lowest apm at foreign level.
maybe thats the reason why most people use protoss on iccup.
and D level isn't decent imo...

to master a race is probably equally hard though.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
January 05 2009 02:06 GMT
#195
On January 05 2009 10:59 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 10:58 Chill wrote:
This is at D foreigner levels. Stupid people keep extrapolating it to top foreigner levels.

ya there wouldnt be so many foreign z's and t's dominating if it were really imbalanced
ohwaito_o


Haha okay thats fair
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 05 2009 02:12 GMT
#196
On January 05 2009 11:02 clazziquai wrote:
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:


Well "1a2a3a" doesn't work in pvp..
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 05 2009 02:27 GMT
#197
On January 05 2009 11:12 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:02 clazziquai wrote:
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:


Well "1a2a3a" doesn't work in pvp..


4gate medusa 1a2a3a gg
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
January 05 2009 02:28 GMT
#198
There is almost no zerg near the top except Jaedong (he would probably be much better had he focused on Protoss when he started).

holy shit there are so many golden quotes in this thread

Few points I want to throw out

1. Protoss users say PvT is hard at higher levels because they only got to higher levels doing DT rush and 1a2a3a instead of learning mechanics in the first place (salv)

2. Protoss users cry about PvZ zerg all in/cheese simply because it is impossible for a zerg to beat a protoss of equal skill at low level straight up, it is so imbalanced.

3. Join games of protoss users on ICC and switch to protoss, they will kick/leave because they cannot play a matchup that does not give them a definite advantage.

I don't understand the actual post, is it the ability to get wins period or the ability to get wins from straight up 1v1? Honestly protoss is such a fucking cheese race that when a protoss plays straight up against me I consider it cheese simply because there is no way I could have expected it

Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 05 2009 02:31 GMT
#199
On January 05 2009 11:27 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:12 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:02 clazziquai wrote:
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:


Well "1a2a3a" doesn't work in pvp..


4gate medusa 1a2a3a gg

1a2a3a
SLASH

gg
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 05 2009 02:40 GMT
#200
On January 05 2009 11:31 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 11:27 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:12 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
On January 05 2009 11:02 clazziquai wrote:
everything i've said is "making shit up"? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


ok ok you're right, i'm wrong. protoss takes skill, i'm sorry~

By the way you're kix06 on MSN right? I've beaten you back in the days when I used to play Protoss (:


Well "1a2a3a" doesn't work in pvp..


4gate medusa 1a2a3a gg

1a2a3a
SLASH

gg


is that the sound of a DT? If so, 2gate dt 1a.. gg
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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