EPTWhy is Protoss easy? - Page 13
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nAi.PrOtOsS
Canada784 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
On January 05 2009 14:19 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote: Low level means different things to different people.When everyone says "low" level they mean like c- right? Low level in my personal opinion is C- and below. Mid range is C/C+/B- and B and up is high level. But like I said, some people could consider C- to be high level. It's all relative. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On January 05 2009 14:09 G5 wrote: If you think top 30 foreigners or top 30 period should be 10 Protoss, 10 Zerg, 10 Terran and take into absolutely NO consideration for the actual person playing the game, you are as ignorant as they come. It's more ignorant to assume otherwise. While it most likely won't be a perfect 10/10/10 split, odds are the numbers will be pretty close. Unless you want to argue that more talented gamers are drawn toward picking a certain race. I think a better argument is that more people tend to start off player as protoss, which therefore gives P a bigger pool of players to produce top players of that race. | ||
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blabber
United States4450 Posts
On January 05 2009 14:34 Athos wrote: I'm pretty sure at blizzcon 2 years ago, TL gave Bisu and Reach this: more like savior and savior only. Bisu was across the Pacific at that time ^^ | ||
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PriitM
Algeria181 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On January 05 2009 19:36 PriitM wrote: Protoss is alien pig, disgusting! Protoss pig builds large amount of cannons and cannons are blocked with gateways - easiest expo defending ever. By the time cannons are getting killed protosses army will be there and ready to rape leftovers from attacking army. I'm sensing someone is mad because they lost their army into cannons?  Like walling, cannon placement and forge blocking takes a lot of skill. Even with good placement at the pro level, protoss can still get overrun by lings. | ||
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
 a click go lings xDterran is hardest oO | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 05 2009 14:09 OneOther wrote: laying mines is harder because you have to click once more? LOL edit: also what NrG.ZaM said that would actually make it TWICE as hard though, although i dont agree that burrowing only takes 1 click, it takes nomerous clicks same thing as laying mines certainly doesnt take 1-2 clicks on high level. You need to spam those mines like crazy I liked dongfengs reply: interestingly an argument that stems from this is that P,T,Z players all put x hours training a day, the P gains the most improvement from this X hours a day and thus they stick with sc while Z and T foreigners dont see significant benefits and quit/do other shit/train less for example on gosugamers ranking top 20 there are 12 protosses and 2 terrans 6 zergs. On iccup there are ALOT of protosses. Not only low level but also higher B B+ level are mostly protosses. Especially if you play terran yourself. I know so many decent terrans who chose to play pvt rather than tvt just because it's easier and in very short time they get quite good at it. its not true that protoss is just a 1a2a3a race but it surely looks easier since there are too many top foreign protosses to make it a coincidence. Ofcourse protoss users would defend that though, its perfectly understandable... one mentioned 1a2a3a compared to 1t2a3a4a well you forgot the other "t" clicks which makes that specific move twice as hard. Protoss is easier to macro, units have more health doesnt need as much attention since they dont die as fast as the other races, and since you dont need to give the army as much attention you can focus more on macro which is the core of protoss. Its almost ok to get wounded here and there since its going to get regenerated anyway. | ||
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 05 2009 20:12 ExSoldier wrote: in low lvl games protoss is the easier race to use. however once it becomes about c+ level of game play protoss becomes the hardest race to use because protoss is race of adaptation. in other words you need good nice sense or your going to lose alot. A good proof of this is: many protoss players complain how pvz is imbal because in pvz protoss requires you to have great game sense how do you explain the dominance of protoss on a higher level then? | ||
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
also maps do play a part in this as well so >.> | ||
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
tvz, pvz, zvz(or zvt people may argue) so you really shouldn't choose race because one is considered the "easiest" by the community | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 05 2009 20:15 ExSoldier wrote: because they have great game sense and their multi tasking is out this world ^^ for example: why do you think bisu, kal, and jangbi is so good against zergs? while tempest stork and best isn't so strong against zerg. also maps do play a part in this as well so >.> Its not logical that protossplayers would happen to have better gamesense and multitasking. Its not just considered the esiest race by the vast majority of this comunity, it also shows in the results from the top foreigners. Its no coincidence we had a pvp in the TSL finals. | ||
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
On January 05 2009 20:22 AnOth3rDAy wrote: Its not logical that protossplayers would happen to have better gamesense and multitasking. Its not just considered the esiest race by the vast majority of this comunity, it also shows in the results from the top foreigners. Its no coincidence we had a pvp in the TSL finals. i didnt say all protoss players have great multitasking and gamesense. what i said was the protoss players that are especially good at pvz have these qualities over the zerg. also if protoss is the "easiest" race. how do you explain protoss being the most unsuccessful race also protoss is not all 1a2a3a. if you think about it protoss requires alot of actions in battle than terran and zerg. when terran just mines and sieges protoss have to unload from shuttle(use storm or reaver), move zealots(not attack ground), statis, and also you have to sometimes focus fire with dragoon. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 05 2009 20:24 ExSoldier wrote: i didnt say all protoss players have great multitasking and gamesense. what i said was the protoss players that are especially good at pvz have these qualities over the zerg. also if protoss is the "easiest" race. how do you explain protoss being the most unsuccessful race also protoss is not all 1a2a3a. if you think about it protoss requires alot of actions in battle than terran and zerg. when terran just mines and sieges protoss have to unload from shuttle(use storm or reaver), move zealots(not attack ground), statis, and also you have to sometimes focus fire with dragoon. Protoss isnt the most unsuccessful race so i dont have to explain that. All races on a higher level are probably equally hard to micro, although if u mismicro with protoss it is not as bad as with terran or zerg. Its also easier to keep good macro with protoss since you dont have to pay as much attention to your army... Saying that protoss would take more micro than zerg or terran is just false. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On January 05 2009 15:51 lgdDante wrote: It's more ignorant to assume otherwise. While it most likely won't be a perfect 10/10/10 split, odds are the numbers will be pretty close. Unless you want to argue that more talented gamers are drawn toward picking a certain race. I think a better argument is that more people tend to start off player as protoss, which therefore gives P a bigger pool of players to produce top players of that race. You could have said the same thing about Terran 4 years ago and actually had alot more statistical evidence. | ||
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ExSoldier
378 Posts
osl: 7 zerg 7 protoss(no protoss won 2 titles in osl except garimto....) 11 terran msl: 6 zerg 4 protoss(only nalra and bisu has msl titles...) 9 terran wcg: 3 zerg 2 protoss(stork and foru has this title with foru winning with pure luck[how successful was foru...]) 4 terran and only recently protoss been dominating. That is why they called it golden age of protoss? I have said it before protoss requires great game sense and adapt to the opponent. As you can see no protoss won 2 titles in any tournaments except bisu and garimto. And since bisu has great sense and multitasking skills. it is safe to say protoss is the hardest in a higher level of play because bisu is the only successful protoss. that being said protoss is the most unsuccesssful race | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 05 2009 20:50 ExSoldier wrote: Protoss not the most unsuccessful race? here are the titles osl: 7 zerg 7 protoss(no protoss won 2 titles in osl except garimto....) 11 terran msl: 6 zerg 4 protoss(only nalra and bisu has msl titles...) 9 terran wcg: 3 zerg 2 protoss(stork and foru has this title with foru winning with pure luck[how successful was foru...]) 4 terran and only recently protoss been dominating. That is why they called it golden age of protoss? I have said it before protoss requires great game sense and adapt to the opponent. As you can see no protoss won 2 titles in any tournaments except bisu and garimto. And since bisu has great sense and multitasking skills. it is safe to say protoss is the hardest in a higher level of play because bisu is the only successful protoss. that being said protoss is the most unsuccesssful race we're not talking about the koreans. Atleast I am not. | ||
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