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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 03 2013 06:01 GMT
#1101
On November 03 2013 14:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
Bertuzzi's 21 career goals against Edmonton are the most he has scored in his career against any team.

So weird to see that of Morrisson, Naslund, Bertuzi, its Bertuzi who is still in the league.

Players like Bertuzzi are rare. Big strong skilled power forwards will always have someone willing to pay them. Even if that power forward committed the most vicious act ever preformed on ice.
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Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 07:19:05
November 03 2013 07:17 GMT
#1102
On November 03 2013 15:01 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 14:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Bertuzzi's 21 career goals against Edmonton are the most he has scored in his career against any team.

So weird to see that of Morrisson, Naslund, Bertuzi, its Bertuzi who is still in the league.

Players like Bertuzzi are rare. Big strong skilled power forwards will always have someone willing to pay them. Even if that power forward committed the most vicious act ever preformed on ice.


Controversial opinion, as awful as the punch was*and it was* I'm still like 90% sure it was the dogpile in the seconds after the punch that prob did his neck/back in.

edit* and besides, the most vicious act is totally Philly's own Bobby Clarke taking out the Russian dudes ankle, at least Bertuzzi in public seemed sorry for it, Clarke is still proud of being a POS.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32087 Posts
November 03 2013 15:29 GMT
#1103
it was the him being ko'ed by the punch and then bert falling on top of him. im sure he didnt mean to do that, but still

also it's not terribly surprising. bert's size and skill set lends itself to a grinders tyle of play moreso than morrison's or naslund's.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 03 2013 18:28 GMT
#1104
Ya but a grinders' style also wears you out faster.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 20:04:50
November 03 2013 19:36 GMT
#1105
I still remember girls in my highschool crying over Bert being traded away from Vancouver. #givemeafuckingbreak #areyouserious
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 03 2013 19:58 GMT
#1106
On November 04 2013 03:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Ya but a grinders' style also wears you out faster.

He's had his share of injuries (most of last season with a back one most recently) but also had the entire 04-05 lock out off due to the IIHF honoring his suspension. Probably allowed him to rehab alot of wear and tear. That lockout is the only reason Teemu Selanne was able to play so I'm sure the time off helped Bert

On November 04 2013 04:36 Shelke14 wrote:
I still remember girls in my highschool crying over Bert being traded away from Vancouver. #givemeafuckingbreak #areyouserious

lol #wow #thesedontdoanythinghere
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speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
November 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#1107
On November 04 2013 04:36 Shelke14 wrote:
I still remember girls in my highschool crying over Bert being traded away from Vancouver. #givemeafuckingbreak #areyouserious


i was still in elementary and i probably almost cried
love bert and always will love bert
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 04:52:39
November 05 2013 04:52 GMT
#1108
This crying for Bertuzzi makes me feel better aboiut how awful the Oilers are.

I dunno why.

#Shotsfired
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 05 2013 06:04 GMT
#1109
I am just amazed at how Lowe is able to hold onto the organization as tightly as he has after years and years of ineptitude. He truly is the Robert Mugabe of the NHL.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 05 2013 08:03 GMT
#1110
How the fuck is toronto sitting were they are when they have 190 give away (36 more then next place Winnipeg), have given up 160 more shots then they have taken and average 17 pim a game?

The teams in the same area as TO on all these (and more I am sure) are sitting at or near the bottem
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Foodar
Profile Joined February 2013
United States28 Posts
November 05 2013 13:27 GMT
#1111
Ovi should be coming back tonight for Washington vs the Islanders
and Carolina gets to host the Flyers in Raleigh in hopes of upping its home record

big night for me tonight.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32087 Posts
November 05 2013 14:04 GMT
#1112
On November 05 2013 17:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
How the fuck is toronto sitting were they are when they have 190 give away (36 more then next place Winnipeg), have given up 160 more shots then they have taken and average 17 pim a game?

The teams in the same area as TO on all these (and more I am sure) are sitting at or near the bottem

like when someone is shooting 20 or 30%, it will regress eventually
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 15:50:13
November 05 2013 15:49 GMT
#1113
On November 05 2013 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 17:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
How the fuck is toronto sitting were they are when they have 190 give away (36 more then next place Winnipeg), have given up 160 more shots then they have taken and average 17 pim a game?

The teams in the same area as TO on all these (and more I am sure) are sitting at or near the bottem

like when someone is shooting 20 or 30%, it will regress eventually


The thing I've accepted about hockey, and what makes it a very hard sport to have an emotional investment in (hard, as in punishing) is that the element of luck is much larger than in other major sports. And that even a full 82 game season is not a long enough span for those elements to regress enough for the numbers to be a solid metric.

I mean, yeah, we can look to possession stats and stuff like that and they do show an outstanding correlation with long-term success. But what we don't know is how many games need to be taken into account in order to make the numbers absolute, or even some-what determining. And then it becomes impossible to even measure because of roster turn-over, major changes between seasons, injuries, etc. Basically, we need better measurements, though it's a solid start.

Teams like Toronto piss me off because the engineer in me wants everything to correlate strongly with a measurable model. And then a shitty team gets good goaltending and wins anyways. Fucking hockey, dude.

How many times do NFL players say "the football gods were on our side today" or "you just have to chuck it towards the endzone and good things happen". What a bullshit sport.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 05 2013 17:28 GMT
#1114
Seems like the NHL would also greatly benefit from a SportsVU system being imposed. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9068903/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 18:04:49
November 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#1115
now that were sorta on the topic, it makes me sick that bertuzzi and crawford are still making money off of the game



fuck both of them
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
November 05 2013 18:31 GMT
#1116
Luck is definitely a huge factor in team success, but rarely does it make you a Stanley Cup winner. As in, there isn't going to be a NY Giants type team winning the cup any time soon. Even so, in hockey you create your own luck a lot. Sure, shots from outside the circle that go in are pure luck, and a .940 save percentage is too. But getting deflections, rebound goals, etc. is both part luck and determination. That's what I love about hockey, to be lucky you have to work for it. The best predictor for success is Fenwick (more precisely Fenwick close), so it's clear that outshooting your opponent is important. But it's that belief that shots create chances that can separate good teams from bad. There's a number of hockey maxims that are silly or outdated, but putting pucks on the net is still the best mindset. But for the love of god don't miss the net, Jeff Carter.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 01:48:02
November 06 2013 01:39 GMT
#1117
I literally spit beer out after Arcobello scored his first NHL goal.

What a shot... I dont get it. Kid has missed probably 30 open nets this season easily. Then he walks in and just snipes a goal with an absolute lazer from 8 feet out with his stick a solid 3 inches away from the red goal line.

Sharper angle than that goal kessel scored on the Oilers.

o.o

EDIT: WTF... The Oilers have movement on their powerplay.

Something is wrong... something is horribly wrong.
Zath.erin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada429 Posts
November 06 2013 02:07 GMT
#1118
On November 06 2013 02:55 TT1 wrote:
now that were sorta on the topic, it makes me sick that bertuzzi and crawford are still making money off of the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz9RE9RGrVY

fuck both of them


Bertuzzi need's to continue making money off the sport considering moore is trying to get 30+ million from him still to this day.
I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except once my pants are on, i make gold records!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:03:25
November 06 2013 02:57 GMT
#1119
I'm so laughing at the B's right now. That shootout hahaha. :>

On November 05 2013 23:04 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 17:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
How the fuck is toronto sitting were they are when they have 190 give away (36 more then next place Winnipeg), have given up 160 more shots then they have taken and average 17 pim a game?

The teams in the same area as TO on all these (and more I am sure) are sitting at or near the bottem

like when someone is shooting 20 or 30%, it will regress eventually


It's a little misleading. The bad pim's have went up in the last several games, prior to that most of them were fighting majors take for instance last year. The giveaways on the other hand and fact we suck at faceoffs on the other hand needs to improve and won't improve any time soon considering so many guys are out. Screw Clarkson. The Bolland/Mason additions were solid. Anyway, there is a lot more to it than meets the eye.

Flaccid I wouldn't call the Leafs shitty.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 06 2013 05:01 GMT
#1120
When will they learn to stop sending the Sedins out in the shootout...
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