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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 01:24:05
April 09 2014 01:23 GMT
#2961
Ryan Miller continues his spectacularly mediocre play. Seems pretty clear so far unless there is some magic button Miller presses to be good that that trade was a major win for the Sabers, parlaying a guys reputation from 2-4 years ago into a boatload of picks.

On the plus side, Red Wings just clinched their 23rd playoff appearance.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 09 2014 01:24 GMT
#2962
On April 09 2014 10:05 Sub40APM wrote:
Ablekadr still on the first line for the Wings. Sigh. Babcock if uncontrolled by injuries would build some dumb ass lines.


He's still playing ~5 minute less than Franzen/Datsyuk/Nyquist because of powerplays.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 01:27 GMT
#2963
On April 09 2014 10:24 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 10:05 Sub40APM wrote:
Ablekadr still on the first line for the Wings. Sigh. Babcock if uncontrolled by injuries would build some dumb ass lines.


He's still playing ~5 minute less than Franzen/Datsyuk/Nyquist because of powerplays.

Yes, thank god Babcock hasnt decided he is the next Holmstrom and moved him up as his choice of 'net presence', he's still a lousy first line winger. They need to let Nyquist play with Datsyuk at least for a couple of shifts.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 01:39 GMT
#2964
god miller is just spectacularly subpar. The Blues went from one of my top picks to win it all to a team that wont get by the Pacific Division teams. Just Anti Niemie level awful now
/8 Wsh 0 3 17 .850
4/6 @Chi - - - -
4/5 Col 0 4 25 .862
4/3 Buf - - - -
4/1 Phi 1 0 31 1.000
3/29 Dal 0 4 23 .852
3/27 Min 1 1 27 .964
3/25 @Tor 1 3 22 .880
3/23 @Pit - - - -
3/22 @Phi 0 3 15 .833
3/19 @Chi 0 4 23 .852
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
April 09 2014 01:55 GMT
#2965
On April 09 2014 10:39 Sub40APM wrote:
god miller is just spectacularly subpar. The Blues went from one of my top picks to win it all to a team that wont get by the Pacific Division teams. Just Anti Niemie level awful now
Show nested quote +
/8 Wsh 0 3 17 .850
4/6 @Chi - - - -
4/5 Col 0 4 25 .862
4/3 Buf - - - -
4/1 Phi 1 0 31 1.000
3/29 Dal 0 4 23 .852
3/27 Min 1 1 27 .964
3/25 @Tor 1 3 22 .880
3/23 @Pit - - - -
3/22 @Phi 0 3 15 .833
3/19 @Chi 0 4 23 .852


Every one of Armstrong's moves this year have been a complete disaster. If they are out round 1 he has to answer for this.
/)*(\
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 01:58 GMT
#2966
Like, what the hell is this goal. 0 screen, 0 pressure, just leisurely strolls up and slap shots it.
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
April 09 2014 02:03 GMT
#2967
On April 09 2014 10:58 Sub40APM wrote:
Like, what the hell is this goal. 0 screen, 0 pressure, just leisurely strolls up and slap shots it.


It's hard to say. There's hope that he'll get it out of his system now, but right now it's just showing that different goalies thrive in different environments. Miller has been better his whole career on high shot teams and average when they're controlled. I'm about ready to put Elliott in as the starter for the Blues.
/)*(\
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 02:11:39
April 09 2014 02:10 GMT
#2968
On April 09 2014 10:23 Sub40APM wrote:
Ryan Miller continues his spectacularly mediocre play. Seems pretty clear so far unless there is some magic button Miller presses to be good that that trade was a major win for the Sabers, parlaying a guys reputation from 2-4 years ago into a boatload of picks.


where is that guy that was whining about Team USA putting QUick in net instead of Miller and not using Miller at all
i think Reimer is now over his latest concussion.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 02:15 GMT
#2969
Toronto officially eliminated, Red Wings apparently dont hold the tie breaker with the devils so they have to get 1 point in the next 3 games. Ryan Miller has just butchered my fantasy final. Fuck that lumpy headed fuck.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 02:25 GMT
#2970
On April 09 2014 11:03 Thallis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 10:58 Sub40APM wrote:
Like, what the hell is this goal. 0 screen, 0 pressure, just leisurely strolls up and slap shots it.


It's hard to say. There's hope that he'll get it out of his system now, but right now it's just showing that different goalies thrive in different environments. Miller has been better his whole career on high shot teams and average when they're controlled. I'm about ready to put Elliott in as the starter for the Blues.

I dont see how you dont play Elliot right now. I'd understand if the rest of the Blues stopped skating and Miller is exposed to some hard shots/good chances but this is just comical stuff. He is letting in shots Dan Cloutier can stop, definitely would play Elliot the remaining games just to warm him up for the playoffs. Especially if the Avs catch up to the Blues, now you arent facing Wild/Dallas but instead playing vs. Chicago in the first round. Its like night and day in terms of threats.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 02:48:21
April 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#2971
Darren Dreger: Trevor Linden will be announced as President of the Canucks.

l.o.l.

The word is that Linden will have a clean slate when he comes in, with the power to hire his own GM — Brendan Shanahan and Boston assistant Jim Benning the leading candidates.

Oh god please hire Shanahan. Please please please hire him.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 09 2014 03:19 GMT
#2972
bye bye leafs lol.

Also, Bob Nicholson for Canucks GM? :D
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 09 2014 03:23 GMT
#2973
I told all you guys when the trade happened Miller would be mediocre in STL.

Miller thrives on seeing lots of rubber, feeling the puck. When he gets a breather he struggles. You give Miller lots of shots and he gets in the zone. You make him sit for 10 minutes without a shot like the Blues are very capable of, he lets in floaters.

Another good example of this kind of goaltender is Craig Anderson. Mike Smith, etc.

It exists with most goaltenders to a degree. Usually if a guy sees like 50 shots in 60 minutes he has like a .92 SV%. If he only sees like 13-15 in 60 minutes he'll be like .89 SV%.

Guy is having a hard time because he isn't getting into games. Even when it starts heating up and hge gets into games, I still think Stewart is a more dangerous threat than Miller.
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 03:44:51
April 09 2014 03:39 GMT
#2974
Alex Ovechkin hits 50 goals again..
Ovechkin wins the Rick Vaive Trophy

its awarded to an NHL 50 goal scorer who plays on a team that misses
the playoffs while the player sorta does whatever he feels like doing when he is on the ice.

on the Miller issue.
we have goaltending experts on this thread and the olympic thread who claim Miller is as good as and possibly even better than Jonathan Quick.

All Quick has is a Conn Smythe Trophy...and all that dumb trophy is .... is a likeness of a building that now

1) hosts the home games for the Ryerson Rams Table Tennis Team
2) contains a hotel filled with call girls on every floor...
3) and has a Loblaws with more homeless people shoplifting from it than people paying for their groceries at the cash register.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 09 2014 03:51 GMT
#2975
Miller's problem is that he's a slightly above average goalie who gets hot sometimes. When he is hot, he is quite good. When he runs cold, he is pretty mediocre. I agree with iCanada. Because of the marginal difference between Halak/Miller, and how STL is a scoring by committee team, I think having stewart would have helped a lot in this coming post season.

Miller does have the ability to heat up and play really well, so there's chance he could stand on his head in the playoffs. I don't think you were gonna get that with Halak. So who knows, still time to pan out.
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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
April 09 2014 04:06 GMT
#2976
it is a general trend for goalies in general that their save percentage decreases as the SOG per game declines.
not just Miller

let me adjust the hotness vector as i compute Miller's WAR.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 09 2014 04:17 GMT
#2977
On April 09 2014 13:06 lamprey1 wrote:
it is a general trend for goalies in general that their save percentage decreases as the SOG per game declines.
not just Miller

let me adjust the hotness vector as i compute Miller's WAR.


Yeah, thats what I said, wasn't it? If you take a look at Miller though, he shows this trait more so than most.


Man, that Oilers - Avalanche game was depressing. The Oil put a run together there where they gave a shit. They out a run together where they worked damn hard every night, where they made their opponents pay a price for ice and to win the puck battles. They were making smart simple plays, not forcing derpy toedrags and dangles. They were making offense come from strong defence.

But tonight, they threw all of that out the window. The Oilers gave away their lead for free with stupid turn overs, players committing to pinch without back pressure or other defensive posturing, and cheating for offence.

At this point, I question the players commitment to winning at this level. Its just not there. I also think Eakins is an absolute idiot. We were on home-ice and our top line (read, only line that can score with our injuries) was outr against their best D-pair all night long.

I should have known, Oilers fans not allowed to have hope.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 04:21 GMT
#2978
On April 09 2014 12:51 QuanticHawk wrote:
Miller's problem is that he's a slightly above average goalie who gets hot sometimes. When he is hot, he is quite good. When he runs cold, he is pretty mediocre. I agree with iCanada. Because of the marginal difference between Halak/Miller, and how STL is a scoring by committee team, I think having stewart would have helped a lot in this coming post season.

Miller does have the ability to heat up and play really well, so there's chance he could stand on his head in the playoffs. I don't think you were gonna get that with Halak. So who knows, still time to pan out.

But I neeeeded Miller this week so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that oddly shaped guy.
Anyway, I dont think Miller will suddenly face a much higher margin of shots. If the Avs keep winning they will win Central and the Blues are playing against Chicago instead of Dallas/Phoenix.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 09 2014 04:23 GMT
#2979
On April 09 2014 13:17 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 13:06 lamprey1 wrote:
it is a general trend for goalies in general that their save percentage decreases as the SOG per game declines.
not just Miller

let me adjust the hotness vector as i compute Miller's WAR.


Yeah, thats what I said, wasn't it? If you take a look at Miller though, he shows this trait more so than most.


Man, that Oilers - Avalanche game was depressing. The Oil put a run together there where they gave a shit. They out a run together where they worked damn hard every night, where they made their opponents pay a price for ice and to win the puck battles. They were making smart simple plays, not forcing derpy toedrags and dangles. They were making offense come from strong defence.

But tonight, they threw all of that out the window. The Oilers gave away their lead for free with stupid turn overs, players committing to pinch without back pressure or other defensive posturing, and cheating for offence.

At this point, I question the players commitment to winning at this level. Its just not there. I also think Eakins is an absolute idiot. We were on home-ice and our top line (read, only line that can score with our injuries) was outr against their best D-pair all night long.

I should have known, Oilers fans not allowed to have hope.

What were you hoping for, that the Oilers would join the Flames in the annual Spring push to a worst draft seed?
Seems pretty clear that Eakins has no idea what he is doing with a team like the Oilers -- sort of like the rest of your management. Fire them, maybe you can beat the Canucks to the Shanahen-Linden intellectual powerhouse...
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 09 2014 04:26 GMT
#2980
On April 09 2014 13:23 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 13:17 iCanada wrote:
On April 09 2014 13:06 lamprey1 wrote:
it is a general trend for goalies in general that their save percentage decreases as the SOG per game declines.
not just Miller

let me adjust the hotness vector as i compute Miller's WAR.


Yeah, thats what I said, wasn't it? If you take a look at Miller though, he shows this trait more so than most.


Man, that Oilers - Avalanche game was depressing. The Oil put a run together there where they gave a shit. They out a run together where they worked damn hard every night, where they made their opponents pay a price for ice and to win the puck battles. They were making smart simple plays, not forcing derpy toedrags and dangles. They were making offense come from strong defence.

But tonight, they threw all of that out the window. The Oilers gave away their lead for free with stupid turn overs, players committing to pinch without back pressure or other defensive posturing, and cheating for offence.

At this point, I question the players commitment to winning at this level. Its just not there. I also think Eakins is an absolute idiot. We were on home-ice and our top line (read, only line that can score with our injuries) was outr against their best D-pair all night long.

I should have known, Oilers fans not allowed to have hope.

What were you hoping for, that the Oilers would join the Flames in the annual Spring push to a worst draft seed?
Seems pretty clear that Eakins has no idea what he is doing with a team like the Oilers -- sort of like the rest of your management. Fire them, maybe you can beat the Canucks to the Shanahen-Linden intellectual powerhouse...

No thank you. Shanny and Linden can go to Van. I would like proven NHL GM's that have experience as NHL GM's or barring that experience running a hockey team in a lower level or overseas. Former players do not make good executives 19 times out of 20.
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