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On July 03 2017 07:52 radscorpion9 wrote:
Well back when the tape leaked about how he liked to grab women's genitals, and during the campaign when he made a number of crude and offensive statements about fellow repulicans and the media alike, it seems like it wasn't enough to really affect a vast portion of the American public that voted for him.
And to be honest, I have to agree with them in the sense that his real policy positions on trade, foreign policy, healthcare, and so on, should take precedence over his problems with women and occasional twitter feuds. So long as he doesn't propose some law saying women no longer have the right to vote (and that won't happen), its just a side show.
So I get the feeling that most people probably don't care that much today either. I would definitely be disappointed in Trump for acting like a child, but I think what most people still care about, or what they should care about, is what he is doing in office to improve the economy or the environment (in the latter case, absolutely nothing). I think what we are observing is mostly just a war between the media and Trump, and the rest of America is just sitting back and eating popcorn. Except the hardcore liberals of course; but then, practically anything Trump does will make them livid.
But his approval ratings are likely low due to his inability to get anything meaningful accomplished besides a temporary ban on some Muslims from some countries, and yelling at the media on twitter. He just hasn't done anything useful, and I think people are starting to realize, this guy's claims were nonsense. He isn't really a great business genius, and he can't really get anything done. He can't even get his own party to pass a new healthcare bill, or remove the old one, and that was supposed to be one of the defining issues for the Republican party.
In the mean time, he is robbing the country and getting out of debt.
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I think trumps Twitter antics probably helps in some ways but has hurt him tremendously in others. He has reduced himself and his office to a meme that no one outside his small base takes seriously. He also distracts and disrupts his own party and the majority of the things he has tried have failed. I don't really see him accomplishing any of his own goals. The only thing he has done is further erode trust in media and that is about it but it's a pyrrhic victory as he erodes his own support to just his fanboys on the internet.
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On July 03 2017 07:35 GreenHorizons wrote:Are all those people actually Jewish? Do they all work at/with CNN or were they just guests? I'm not going to lie, considering indigenous people make up a comparable section of our population, Jewish people are greatly overrepresented in media.
They are but I don't really think it is some crazy conspiracy. They don't really present a united front on well... Anything, so not really sure how it helps anyone. There's probably a ton of factors that led to their dominance in media, with random luck being a large part (their population centers overlapped with media centers of the US).
Indigenous people being far underrepresented is easily explained, they're kept in literal fucking hellholes and fucked over in a way that's hard to argue wasn't intended by numerous laws.
Media tends to overrepresent urban centers, especially NYC and LA, there are far more gay people and black people cast than is proportional of the country as well (not true of all genres of TV and Film).
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On July 03 2017 07:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2017 11:06 Gahlo wrote:On July 02 2017 08:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On July 02 2017 04:36 Gahlo wrote:On July 02 2017 04:31 zlefin wrote:
the passport bit made me wonder so I checked the landsize; the US has more than twice the land area of the EU. I thought it was closer than that. Yeah, it's a pretty stark difference. France is one of EU's biggest countries and is about the size of Texas. They also both have a Paris. So what? France has twice as many people. Europe in general has twice as many people as USA. The countries which make up the EU contains more people, yet the idea to only travel within the EU is a pretty strange one for those living within it. Yet most Europeans in the high income European countries have travelled outside to another continent within their lifetimes. Nearly everyone owns a passport irregardless of whether they need one to travel within the EU. Even the poor. It's pretty obvious why you feel a bit diminshed about the whole passport thing, but saying that USA is a large country doesn't explain it. It matters because the space that the USA takes up lets you experience a vast array of environments without needing a passport. I don't need a passport to go to Hawaii, while I'm pretty sure you need a passport to go to Mauritius. So unless I'm destination traveling, like if I wanted to see Venice, I don't have a purpose for owning a passport. I'm not going to spend money so I can get a new passport when I don't intend to use it. You can go to Mauritius without a passport? I don't understand your strange chestbeating over land area. USA has bigger landmass than the European Union therefore what exactly? The world is many multiples bigger than the USA and the countries which make up the EU combined. I really don't udnerstand why you would be so proud of not owning a passport. Here, it's basically an admission that you are either so poor you can't afford to travel or have no interest in other cultures.
For the last time, it comes down to the reason for having a passport. If you live in a hypothetical country that is arid grassland and desert and want to go skiing, you probably need a passport to go to another country that has it. Yet if the Western half of the US was it's own country, that has both. Because the US is such a big place, it covers a lot of different climates. So when it comes to passports, Americans don't tend to need them because they can get most of what they want out of traveling by just going somewhere else in the country.
It has nothing to do with pride in not having on, but not having a need for one. Passports aren't expensive, but why should I have one if I have no intention of using one and can get one if I need one? I've been to Europe and South America, but I have no reason to go back there right now.
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I believe the tweets are extremely successful at achieving The President of The United States of America's goals, to bring everyone's attention to himself. Over 200k retweets!
You guys are judging trump as a politician and a statesman but that's not what or who he is.
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Re: Chen resignation
He resigned because the government won't hold itself to the same high standards as corporations?
When did it ever? It's been the exception rather than the rule for my whole lifetime.
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On July 03 2017 09:44 Buckyman wrote:
Re: Chen resignation
He resigned because the government won't hold itself to the same high standards as corporations?
When did it ever? It's been the exception rather than the rule for my whole lifetime.
what high standards of corporations? I don't recall corporations having high standards than government, or high standards in general.
at any rate; the standards are surely a lot worse under trump than they were previously.
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Corporations have the lowest standards possible without breaking the law.
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Corporations are barely regulated or policed by the federal government. Wells Fargo makes thousands of fake accounts, lies to investors and faces little if any consequences. America Airlines directly causes one of their passengers to be beaten and we hear about it in congress once or twice. The FBI has no department to police banks or white collar crime. There were times when events like that would have dominated congress for weeks. And it has been going on for so long that people just think it is normal now.
On July 03 2017 09:53 Kadungon wrote:
Corporations have the lowest standards possible without breaking the law.
And it has been proven repeatedly that white collar crime will not get you jail time.
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So what's the point of your random tweet sharing?
Do you share the ridiculous opinion you are sharing here? Do you believe video games make kids violent?
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On July 03 2017 07:52 radscorpion9 wrote:
Well back when the tape leaked about how he liked to grab women's genitals, and during the campaign when he made a number of crude and offensive statements about fellow repulicans and the media alike, it seems like it wasn't enough to really affect a vast portion of the American public that voted for him.
And to be honest, I have to agree with them in the sense that his real policy positions on trade, foreign policy, healthcare, and so on, should take precedence over his problems with women and occasional twitter feuds. So long as he doesn't propose some law saying women no longer have the right to vote (and that won't happen), its just a side show.
So I get the feeling that most people probably don't care that much today either. I would definitely be disappointed in Trump for acting like a child, but I think what most people still care about, or what they should care about, is what he is doing in office to improve the economy or the environment (in the latter case, absolutely nothing). I think what we are observing is mostly just a war between the media and Trump, and the rest of America is just sitting back and eating popcorn. Except the hardcore liberals of course; but then, practically anything Trump does will make them livid.
But his approval ratings are likely low due to his inability to get anything meaningful accomplished besides a temporary ban on some Muslims from some countries, and yelling at the media on twitter. He just hasn't done anything useful, and I think people are starting to realize, this guy's claims were nonsense. He isn't really a great business genius, and he can't really get anything done. He can't even get his own party to pass a new healthcare bill, or remove the old one, and that was supposed to be one of the defining issues for the Republican party.
I think his Twitter activity is probably a hamper on his agenda. It does matter where the media is focusing it's attention - all those people in Congress have to deal with the fallout of Trump's tweets.
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On July 03 2017 11:14 GoTuNk! wrote:So what's the point of your random tweet sharing? Do you share the ridiculous opinion you are sharing here? Do you believe video games make kids violent? As per thread rules: NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can be actioned.
How is it an old argument when this thing started today?
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Meh, I've complained more than enough about low-content Twitter posts that really don't add much to the discussion. But I'm evidently in the minority on that topic, so fuck it.
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On July 03 2017 07:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2017 07:30 xDaunt wrote:On July 03 2017 07:28 Introvert wrote:This is relevant to what? Is Trump's tweet supposed to be anti-Semitic? It's just more slander by association and innuendo. I agree. And it's stupid. People don't check the meme production of people whose memes they retweet to see that they haven't produced offensive memes in the past. While I think it's a completely inconsequential issue (if there's a 0-100 scale of issues of importance and climate change is 100, then 'can retweet offensive stuff without repercussions' is 0.001), a lot of people actually seem to like Trump, and dislike the high horse liberals, because they somewhat consistently look for stuff to be offended by and people want to be able to communicate without being accused of some form of unintended bigotry or offensiveness. It's fair that we should hold the president to a higher standard, of course, but looking through the meme history of this TD contributor just misses the ball completely.
I mean you don't really need to look up the posting history of anyone on /r/t_d to know that they'll have said a bunch of anti Semitic things.
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On July 03 2017 11:14 GoTuNk! wrote:So what's the point of your random tweet sharing? Do you share the ridiculous opinion you are sharing here? Do you believe video games make kids violent? As per thread rules: NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can be actioned.
On July 03 2017 11:50 LegalLord wrote:
Meh, I've complained more than enough about low-content Twitter posts that really don't add much to the discussion. But I'm evidently in the minority on that topic, so fuck it.
It doesn't really do any good unless you take it to the website feedback forum www.teamliquid.net. I don't think the people who make the modding decisions for this thread actively read it unless there's reports (not that I blame them, I'm not sure why I read this thread) but they definitely check the feedback thread. (It is a little annoying that you can't check the feedback thread on Liquiddota and have to log in to main TL.net, but that won't affect most people).
This guy is claiming to be the person who Trump retweeted. His comment history is about average for a user of r/The_Donald, which is to say, pretty horrific if you want to dig through all of it. The actual tweet actually doesn't bother me at all. I found it kind of funny. That Trump is retweeting what seems an awful lot like a white supremacist does bother me, though.
www.reddit.com
Here's their comments before they started scrubbing them :
http://imgur.com/a/hfUAo
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On July 03 2017 12:16 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2017 11:14 GoTuNk! wrote:So what's the point of your random tweet sharing? Do you share the ridiculous opinion you are sharing here? Do you believe video games make kids violent? As per thread rules: NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can be actioned. Show nested quote +On July 03 2017 11:50 LegalLord wrote:
Meh, I've complained more than enough about low-content Twitter posts that really don't add much to the discussion. But I'm evidently in the minority on that topic, so fuck it. It doesn't really do any good unless you take it to the website feedback forum www.teamliquid.net. I don't think the people who make the modding decisions for this thread actively read it unless there's reports (not that I blame them, I'm not sure why I read this thread) but they definitely check the feedback thread. (It is a little annoying that you can't check the feedback thread on Liquiddota and have to log in to main TL.net, but that won't affect most people).
Yeah, I did that a lot. They listened but it didn't last long. Not going to do that again - if Twitter is the name of the game then there's not much that can be done.
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CNN deserved a bit of ridicule for their fake news on Russia. I didn't expect it to come in the form of a wrestling gif though. Ms. Navarro's take is the sort of overreaction that probably makes conservatives cheer Trump poking the mainstream media in the eye even more. Even from that short video, it's readily apparent Ms. Navarro is and will be biased against Trump in her commentary at CNN.
CNN's statement: “We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his.” is so rich in irony I hope they don't die from iron poisoning. This recent dustup was exactly because CNN failed to do their job in vetting a story about Trump ties to Russia.
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