EPTAnd yes, CNN somehow managed to make itself look like trash even though they are bashing Trump.
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LegalLord
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And yes, CNN somehow managed to make itself look like trash even though they are bashing Trump. | ||
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Plansix
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Plansix
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On July 03 2017 12:16 Nevuk wrote: It doesn't really do any good unless you take it to the website feedback forum www.teamliquid.net. I don't think the people who make the modding decisions for this thread actively read it unless there's reports (not that I blame them, I'm not sure why I read this thread) but they definitely check the feedback thread. (It is a little annoying that you can't check the feedback thread on Liquiddota and have to log in to main TL.net, but that won't affect most people). This guy is claiming to be the person who Trump retweeted. His comment history is about average for a user of r/The_Donald, which is to say, pretty horrific if you want to dig through all of it. The actual tweet actually doesn't bother me at all. I found it kind of funny. That Trump is retweeting what seems an awful lot like a white supremacist does bother me, though. www.reddit.com Here's their comments before they started scrubbing them : http://imgur.com/a/hfUAo It's not actually hard to believe that Trump, deep down, is a aligned with that guy's posting history. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7813 Posts
On July 03 2017 12:22 NovaTheFeared wrote: CNN deserved a bit of ridicule for their fake news on Russia. I didn't expect it to come in the form of a wrestling gif though. Ms. Navarro's take is the sort of overreaction that probably makes conservatives cheer Trump poking the mainstream media in the eye even more. Even from that short video, it's readily apparent Ms. Navarro is and will be biased against Trump in her commentary at CNN. CNN's statement: “We will keep doing our jobs. He should start doing his.” is so rich in irony I hope they don't die from iron poisoning. This recent dustup was exactly because CNN failed to do their job in vetting a story about Trump ties to Russia. I don't like CNN and they have shitty ethics, but considering what Fox News feed the republican base with, I have a hard time taking their FAKE NEWS!!! whining seriously. Also, CNN is not fake news. It's shitty journalism. And so is Fox and so is Breitbart; as much as I hate them, they are not what the expression fake news was invented to describe. Biaised stories, bad sources, bad ethics, bad checking process, certainly. But none of that is fake news. "Pope Francis shocks world, endorses Donald Trump for president" by WTOE 5 News, that was fake news. That's an entirely different thing. And it's because those were overwhelmingly supporting Trump that he's so keen on sinking the "fake news" concept by mixing it in with every bit of bad journalism. Maybe we can keep those two concepts distinct here, for the sake of clarity and sanity. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
tfw you get warned for posting low quality content in response to a president posting low quality content If Trump was a TL poster would he be smart enough to escape a permaban? | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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Dangermousecatdog
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On July 03 2017 08:39 Gahlo wrote: Your argument that Armericans don't need passports because of their land area falls rather flat since people generally don't just travel to see different climates. The original argument (not by me) was about seeing different cultures and by doing so see their different medical systems. When Europeans travel to USA, they have to take out travel insurance for medical needs. It's kinda sad really. But honestly speaking Europe has the same diverse climates USA has except for arid deserts, in which I suspect many Americans have no real reason to wish to travel to see. Btw, you do realise that Europe has many Skiing destinations? For the last time, it comes down to the reason for having a passport. If you live in a hypothetical country that is arid grassland and desert and want to go skiing, you probably need a passport to go to another country that has it. Yet if the Western half of the US was it's own country, that has both. Because the US is such a big place, it covers a lot of different climates. So when it comes to passports, Americans don't tend to need them because they can get most of what they want out of traveling by just going somewhere else in the country. It has nothing to do with pride in not having on, but not having a need for one. Passports aren't expensive, but why should I have one if I have no intention of using one and can get one if I need one? I've been to Europe and South America, but I have no reason to go back there right now. | ||
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farvacola
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Dangermousecatdog
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xDaunt
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ShoCkeyy
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On July 03 2017 21:53 xDaunt wrote: Having traveled extensively as an American, I'm pretty sure that whether Americans visit other countries has little bearing on what they know about how health care functions in those countries. I have to agree with xDaunt here, unless you're like me who studies different healthcare's across the globe. But yea, not even the everyday US citizen joe schmo knows how their own healthcare works. Do you know that the US Government pays off bad debt for hospitals (so anybody that receive care in an emergency room, and can't afford it, will be paid off with taxes). I feel about 95% of the country does not even know that. If they did, they'd be way more open to single payer, or just throw tantrums like they do now... | ||
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Kadungon
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On July 03 2017 20:05 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Your argument that Armericans don't need passports because ... His argument is that whenever possible, Americans avoid having to go somewhere that is not America. Therefore, they only travel within their own culture, to other geographic areas with other climates/geologies/landscapes. They want to avoid having to deal with a different culture or a different language. That said, Americans are in double think about their health care system. Things have changed, I must admit. But that is because they now have a slightly worse system with Obama Care (It is still horrible, for Americans). But the media are now manufacturing a different narrative. So Americans have different opinions. It was literally impossible to convince the average American online about how bad their healthcare system was. Now of course there has been so much attack on Obamacare, they now do agree. I mean, even Trump made a comment about how much better foreign healthcare systems are. He apparently didn't get the message that the GOP and some of the Democrats actually want a system bad for the average American who is seeking health care, yes. But he did say it. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 03 2017 22:11 Kadungon wrote: His argument is that whenever possible, Americans avoid having to go somewhere that is not America. Therefore, they only travel within their own culture, to other geographic areas with other climates/geologies/landscapes. They want to avoid having to deal with a different culture or a different language. That said, Americans are in double think about their health care system. Things have changed, I must admit. But that is because they now have a slightly worse system with Obama Care (It is still horrible, for Americans). But the media are now manufacturing a different narrative. So Americans have different opinions. It was literally impossible to convince the average American online about how bad their healthcare system was. Now of course there has been so much attack on Obamacare, they now do agree. I mean, even Trump made a comment about how much better foreign healthcare systems are. He apparently didn't get the message that the GOP and some of the Democrats actually want a system bad for the average American who is seeking health care, yes. But he did say it. I don't know if "avoid" is the proper term. There is undeniably a significant economic barrier for Americans to travel to other countries and experience other cultures. | ||
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brian
United States9610 Posts
On July 03 2017 22:11 Kadungon wrote: His argument is that whenever possible, Americans avoid having to go somewhere that is not America. Therefore, they only travel within their own culture, to other geographic areas with other climates/geologies/landscapes. They want to avoid having to deal with a different culture or a different language. That said, Americans are in double think about their health care system. Things have changed, I must admit. But that is because they now have a slightly worse system with Obama Care (It is still horrible, for Americans). But the media are now manufacturing a different narrative. So Americans have different opinions. It was literally impossible to convince the average American online about how bad their healthcare system was. Now of course there has been so much attack on Obamacare, they now do agree. I mean, even Trump made a comment about how much better foreign healthcare systems are. He apparently didn't get the message that the GOP and some of the Democrats actually want a system bad for the average American who is seeking health care, yes. But he did say it. you seem to be under the misunderstanding that there exists only one culture in the US and that it's citizens speak only one language. very odd. | ||
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LegalLord
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Kadungon
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On July 03 2017 22:22 brian wrote: you seem to be under the misunderstanding that there exists only one culture in the US and that it's citizens speak only one language. very odd. First of, that was what he was saying. Not me. Second, I guess you don't know what 'culture' means. I never said there was no difference. But when you can travel to 4000 km and visit many many cities, and people there all read the same newspaper, cheer for the same sports teams, go to the same fast food chain, watch the same comedy shows, then that is very very different. Third, many Americans never left their home state. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Biff The Understudy
France7813 Posts
On July 03 2017 21:53 xDaunt wrote: Having traveled extensively as an American, I'm pretty sure that whether Americans visit other countries has little bearing on what they know about how health care functions in those countries. I think what makes a difference is not so much traveling per say as living abroad, even for a short while. Having lived in five countries over ten years with wildly different systems ranging from the UK to Norway, I have had the opportunity to get a very neat idea of what I believe in and what I don't. That being said, I have to agree that visiting the Louvres and Eiffel Tower doesn't give you much of an overview of an other society or an other system. Size does matter in that respect. More and more european young people get to study and live at least temporarily abroad simply because european countries are comparatively very small. Politically speaking it's a very, very positive thing. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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AFrench "nationalist" has been arrested and charged over an alleged plan to kill President Emmanuel Macron on Bastille Day when he is due to oversee a military parade with US counterpart Donald Trump. The unemployed 23-year old from the Paris suburb of Argenteui was seized after expressing an interest in acquiring a real machine gun in a video game chatroom, according to RMC radio. He threatened police with a kitchen knife during the arrest. Officers found three knives in his car, the radio reported. His computer contained a search history of potential targets. Has nothing to do with US Politics, but how would the donald react if this were to actually have happened. It's definitely a pressing issue when "Nationalist" are turning into " home grown terrorist"... | ||
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