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US government health officials are lifting the nation’s 32-year-old lifetime ban on blood donations from gay and bisexual men, but major restrictions will remain on who can donate.
The ban had been aimed at preventing the transmission of HIV, the virus which causes Aids, but medical groups and gay activists have long said the ban could no longer be justified, based on modern testing methods. The US Food and Drug Administration said on Monday that the change is “backed by sound science and continues to protect our blood supply”.
Officials are replacing the blanket ban with a policy barring donations from men who have had sex with another man in the previous year. While the policy has been criticized by activists, the FDA stance is in line with that of other countries, including Australia and Britain. The US lifetime ban was put in place during the early Aids crisis.
The agency said people with hemophilia and related blood-clotting disorders will continue to be banned from donating blood due to potential harm they could suffer from large needles. Previously they were banned due to an increased risk of transmitting HIV.
The agency said it has also put in place a safety monitoring system for the blood supply, which it expects to provide “critical information” to help inform future FDA blood donor policies.
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seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate
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On July 06 2013 07:24 Rassy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 06:09 aksfjh wrote:On July 06 2013 05:26 Rassy wrote:
The 85 billions a month was not pumped into the economy.
The monney was used to buy mortgage backed securitys and bonds on the market and off the counter, this to allow a few selected big bond and mbs holders to sell their holdings at record heights before they would crash due to the rising interest.
It was a 85b/month (1 trillion totall) hand out to the rich/banks/investment funds for wich the whole country will pay due to inflation.
My guess is 3 years tops till this monney has made its way into the normal economy and inflation will rise to 5% and maybe more.
It would be interesting to see how much profit/loss the fed has on these securitys wich where purchased with printed monney, my guess is a loss of at least 10% in 1 year from now. But i think these figures will never become public. Where is that inflation promised from the program 4 years ago? We're at <2% now, with no signs of acceleration. This program is alot bigger then the previous program, and also different. Besides that:the official inflation figures are extremely skewed and dont show the real inflation. If i see that people working at barts cleaning cars make 75k a year "wich is justified because they live in an expensive area" then i say,there is your inflation. 75k/year needed to maintain a lower middle class livestyle for unskilled labour. I will make this prediction, within 3 years even the official heavily skewd inflation will be at 5%. If we are both still on this forum in 3 years,you can come back at me and say i was wrong or right :p
Only ~6 months to go...
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On December 22 2015 11:34 oneofthem wrote:
seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate
It's just so very hard to take him seriously, i simply can't even imagine a person that would think voting for him is a good idea.
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On December 22 2015 11:34 oneofthem wrote:
seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate
if trump is dangerous, then democracy is dangerous. that's what you are saying on a very basic level.
I don't see how he is that much different than the other republican candidates - apart from his megalomaniac, yuuuuuuuge ego and the - for the most part - unsubstantiated tough talk.
oh, and just impressively mad media skillz - he just puts every other demagogue to the shame with how adeptly he uses social media for example, just enough to rally the troops - just shy enough of not crossing a line where just everybody shakes his head in disbelief.
(white) america #1 - check
huge military - check
tough but not very smart on foreign policy - check
pipe dream tax policies - check
am I missing anything important?
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On December 22 2015 13:22 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2013 07:24 Rassy wrote:On July 06 2013 06:09 aksfjh wrote:On July 06 2013 05:26 Rassy wrote:
The 85 billions a month was not pumped into the economy.
The monney was used to buy mortgage backed securitys and bonds on the market and off the counter, this to allow a few selected big bond and mbs holders to sell their holdings at record heights before they would crash due to the rising interest.
It was a 85b/month (1 trillion totall) hand out to the rich/banks/investment funds for wich the whole country will pay due to inflation.
My guess is 3 years tops till this monney has made its way into the normal economy and inflation will rise to 5% and maybe more.
It would be interesting to see how much profit/loss the fed has on these securitys wich where purchased with printed monney, my guess is a loss of at least 10% in 1 year from now. But i think these figures will never become public. Where is that inflation promised from the program 4 years ago? We're at <2% now, with no signs of acceleration. This program is alot bigger then the previous program, and also different. Besides that:the official inflation figures are extremely skewed and dont show the real inflation. If i see that people working at barts cleaning cars make 75k a year "wich is justified because they live in an expensive area" then i say,there is your inflation. 75k/year needed to maintain a lower middle class livestyle for unskilled labour. I will make this prediction, within 3 years even the official heavily skewd inflation will be at 5%. If we are both still on this forum in 3 years,you can come back at me and say i was wrong or right :p Only ~6 months to go...
Ya, I will probably have to concede this one.
Even though I think the inflation is way higher then official figures suggest.
The fed is starting to raise interest so there seems to be at least some acknowledgement that prices are on the rise.
180k in student debts seems to be "normal"
I don't know how much college costed 10 years ago but it must have been less.
Same for other very important costs like housing and medical care.
The only thing that gets cheaper is your imported electronics from china and your gmo food.
What was the derogative that trump used to attack Clinton?
The internet is full of it but nowhere I can see what he actually said.
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On December 22 2015 19:03 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 11:34 oneofthem wrote:
seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate if trump is dangerous, then democracy is dangerous. that's what you are saying on a very basic level. I don't see how he is that much different than the other republican candidates - apart from his megalomaniac, yuuuuuuuge ego and the - for the most part - unsubstantiated tough talk. oh, and just impressively mad media skillz - he just puts every other demagogue to the shame with how adeptly he uses social media for example, just enough to rally the troops - just shy enough of not crossing a line where just everybody shakes his head in disbelief. (white) america #1 - check huge military - check tough but not very smart on foreign policy - check pipe dream tax policies - check am I missing anything important?
The part where a democracy needs an informed/educated and interested public to work...
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Things are so specialized nowadays it's impossible for anyone to make informed decision on all important issues.
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On December 22 2015 19:03 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2015 11:34 oneofthem wrote:
seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate if trump is dangerous, then democracy is dangerous. that's what you are saying on a very basic level. I don't see how he is that much different than the other republican candidates - apart from his megalomaniac, yuuuuuuuge ego and the - for the most part - unsubstantiated tough talk. oh, and just impressively mad media skillz - he just puts every other demagogue to the shame with how adeptly he uses social media for example, just enough to rally the troops - just shy enough of not crossing a line where just everybody shakes his head in disbelief. (white) america #1 - check huge military - check tough but not very smart on foreign policy - check pipe dream tax policies - check am I missing anything important?
dangerous in the dimension of winning. policy wise, probably dangerous but that's not what i meant
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edit: early morning meaningless post lol
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On December 22 2015 11:34 oneofthem wrote:
seriously though i hope people understand trump is a very dangerous candidate Don't worry, conservatives have felt the same about the current presidency and the prospective presidency of Clinton. Schlafy has a decent interview up comparing current congress and Trump on the budget, if you want more on why current Republican congressional leadership is dangerous too.
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I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way.
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The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton.
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On December 23 2015 01:20 Silvanel wrote:
I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way.
I don't think so. the primary - maybe. the presidency? no way. I would even wager on that.
On December 23 2015 01:26 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton.
just no lol. remember mr. etch-a-sketch? how enthusiastic republicans were for romney? take that and multiply it times "TRUMP" and you have a small portion of the can of worms trump being the nominee opens.
outside of his dedicated followers - NOBOBY - wants him for president. not most republican voters, let alone the establishment. why then should he be able to sway democrats?
and you not only need your + THE (republican) base to become president, you need a good chunk of the middle too. if there is no benghazi-esque moment for hillary, where she gets caught on tape saying she has sympathies for what ISIS is doing... not a snowball's chance in hell.
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On December 23 2015 00:25 ragz_gt wrote:
Things are so specialized nowadays it's impossible for anyone to make informed decision on all important issues.
We used to have functional news media that felt it was social responsibility kept the public information and was deeply concerned about their influence.
Now we have Fox News, MSNBC and the fear factory CNN. It wouldn’t be so sad if the general public hadn’t turned to the Daily Show for news coverage over a decade ago. You think someone would have gone “guys, I think we fucked up if people trust that comedy show more than us.” But apparently not.
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Police in California waited more than two weeks before arresting a man who posted an image of a homemade bomb on Facebook amid messages professing support for Donald Trump and opposition to Muslims, the Guardian can reveal.
William Celli, 55, was arrested on Sunday in Richmond, California, after police raided his house and discovered a suspected homemade bomb. He has been charged with two counts of suspicion of making criminal threats and possession of an explosive device.
Police were first warned about Celli more than two weeks ago, when one of his Facebook friends raised the alarm about anti-Islamic postings he had uploaded along with an image purporting to show a homemade device.
The postings included the claim that members of his local mosque celebrated the Paris attacks and the suggestions that all Muslims in America should be sent back to their “country of origin”.
Maria DiLoreto Banks, a childhood friend of Celli who took a screen grab of the postings when they appeared on her feed, has shared the images with the Guardian. She provided the same information to the police more than two weeks ago. “I just thought they dropped it because I never heard anything,” she said.
The posts include derogatory references to Hispanics and Muslims as well as a photograph of an apparent pipe bomb resting on a table outside a house. Celli appears to have posted: “Built it all by myself lol” and “Home Depot don’t sell stuff is big here’s a crude device for you”.
The image of the bomb was posted the same day – 4 December – that Celli is alleged to have stood outside his local mosque threatening to kill congregants. That incident was also reported to police.
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On December 23 2015 01:32 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:20 Silvanel wrote:
I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way. I don't think so. the primary - maybe. the presidency? no way. I would even wager on that. Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:26 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton. just no lol. remember mr. etch-a-sketch? how enthusiastic republicans were for romney? take that and multiply it times "TRUMP" and you have a small portion of the can of worms trump being the nominee opens. outside of his dedicated followers - NOBOBY - wants him for president. not most republican voters, let alone the establishment. why then should he be able to sway democrats? and you not only need your + THE (republican) base to become president, you need a good chunk of the middle too. if there is no benghazi-esque moment for hillary, where she gets caught on tape saying she has sympathies for what ISIS is doing... not a snowball's chance in hell.
I think a lot of what you are describing stops being the case once Clinton is the nominee. Republican voters are historically extremely party-loyal and will have great turn out "against the democrat". Trump would in theory have a huge amount of Republican support against Clinton. From there it is just a matter of him trying to convince everyone else.
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On December 23 2015 01:57 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:32 Doublemint wrote:On December 23 2015 01:20 Silvanel wrote:
I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way. I don't think so. the primary - maybe. the presidency? no way. I would even wager on that. On December 23 2015 01:26 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton. just no lol. remember mr. etch-a-sketch? how enthusiastic republicans were for romney? take that and multiply it times "TRUMP" and you have a small portion of the can of worms trump being the nominee opens. outside of his dedicated followers - NOBOBY - wants him for president. not most republican voters, let alone the establishment. why then should he be able to sway democrats? and you not only need your + THE (republican) base to become president, you need a good chunk of the middle too. if there is no benghazi-esque moment for hillary, where she gets caught on tape saying she has sympathies for what ISIS is doing... not a snowball's chance in hell. I think a lot of what you are describing stops being the case once Clinton is the nominee. Republican voters are historically extremely party-loyal and will have great turn out "against the democrat". Trump would in theory have a huge amount of Republican support against Clinton. From there it is just a matter of him trying to convince everyone else.
I see where you are coming from, but I find that that's a highly unlikely outcome.
// btw. my bet is on Rubio for the nominee. Cruz is just way too eely and sneaky for his own good.
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On December 23 2015 01:32 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:20 Silvanel wrote:
I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way. I don't think so. the primary - maybe. the presidency? no way. I would even wager on that. Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:26 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton. just no lol. remember mr. etch-a-sketch? how enthusiastic republicans were for romney? take that and multiply it times "TRUMP" and you have a small portion of the can of worms trump being the nominee opens. outside of his dedicated followers - NOBOBY - wants him for president. not most republican voters, let alone the establishment. why then should he be able to sway democrats? and you not only need your + THE (republican) base to become president, you need a good chunk of the middle too. if there is no benghazi-esque moment for hillary, where she gets caught on tape saying she has sympathies for what ISIS is doing... not a snowball's chance in hell. austrian pronouncing on american political taste. legit
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On December 23 2015 02:04 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2015 01:32 Doublemint wrote:On December 23 2015 01:20 Silvanel wrote:
I think he meant dangerous as "real contender for presidency" not the other way. I don't think so. the primary - maybe. the presidency? no way. I would even wager on that. On December 23 2015 01:26 Mohdoo wrote:
The interesting thing about the prospect of Trump winning the primary is that there's a 100% chance he'd run on a platform of "sensible, equitable single payer". He could tell everyone what a disaster obamacare would be and pledge to turn healthcare woes into good business. Trump winning a primary basically gives him free reign to be as liberal as he wants after assembling a legion of incredibly dedicated supporters. They wouldn't even need to be dedicated. It amazes me, and honestly also kind of confuses me, how much republicans hate Clinton. I honestly don't fully understand the specifics of why. I think republicans would prefer 4 more years of Obama over Clinton. Either way, Trump will have unwavering support against Clinton. just no lol. remember mr. etch-a-sketch? how enthusiastic republicans were for romney? take that and multiply it times "TRUMP" and you have a small portion of the can of worms trump being the nominee opens. outside of his dedicated followers - NOBOBY - wants him for president. not most republican voters, let alone the establishment. why then should he be able to sway democrats? and you not only need your + THE (republican) base to become president, you need a good chunk of the middle too. if there is no benghazi-esque moment for hillary, where she gets caught on tape saying she has sympathies for what ISIS is doing... not a snowball's chance in hell. austrian pronouncing on american political taste. legit
He isn't wrong though. Trump has terrible polling among almost everyone who isn't his base. There is a very slim chance that will get better, regardless of the opponent.
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