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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 20:37:13
December 21 2015 20:36 GMT
#53741
oops nvm
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 21:06:38
December 21 2015 21:00 GMT
#53742
Police found an explosive device Sunday in the home of a 55-year-old Richmond, California man who allegedly threatened to harm the local Muslim community, according to a local report.

Police evacuated William Celli's neighborhood when they found a device at his home on Sunday and detonated it, Bay Area TV station KPIX reported. Celli was arrested and booked into county jail on Sunday afternoon, according to the report.

KPIX reported a tipster told police Thursday that a man was making devices and threatening to harm Muslims. But while law enforcement said Celli's statements attracted their attention, police wouldn't elaborate on the threats, according to the report.

"We thank law enforcement authorities for their swift action and we will monitor this alleged case of domestic terrorism closely as it moves through the legal system," said Zahra Billoo, executive director of the San Francisco Bay Area chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Celli frequently posted on Facebook, where he appeared to align himself with Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump. In October, Celli wrote: "I'll follow this MAN to the end of the world."

Celli also posted: "Donald Trump’s on again I’m feeling good about myself."

He's also posted about undocumented immigrants who have "invaded" America and wrote that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is turning Canada into "A LEFT WING POT SMOKIN WELFARE STATE (sic)".

This wouldn't be the first time an apparent Trump supporter allegedly committed a hate crime. In August, two Boston men cited Trump's anti-immigrant campaign rhetoric when explaining to police why they beat up and urinated on a homeless man. The candidate initially called those followers "passionate" before condemning their crime in stronger terms.


Source
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
December 21 2015 21:59 GMT
#53743
On December 22 2015 02:35 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 02:02 IgnE wrote:
On December 22 2015 01:39 xDaunt wrote:
On December 21 2015 22:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source


I doubt that this theory will fly on appeal.


I rather like the theory.

I'll give them kudos for creativity, but the case law on what "sex" means in the context of the federal anti-discrimination statutes is pretty damned clear. No responsible court will give different definitions to sex under Title VII and Title IX.


Their argument doesn't redefine "sex" though.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23799 Posts
December 21 2015 22:21 GMT
#53744
On December 22 2015 06:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Police found an explosive device Sunday in the home of a 55-year-old Richmond, California man who allegedly threatened to harm the local Muslim community, according to a local report.

Police evacuated William Celli's neighborhood when they found a device at his home on Sunday and detonated it, Bay Area TV station KPIX reported. Celli was arrested and booked into county jail on Sunday afternoon, according to the report.

KPIX reported a tipster told police Thursday that a man was making devices and threatening to harm Muslims. But while law enforcement said Celli's statements attracted their attention, police wouldn't elaborate on the threats, according to the report.

"We thank law enforcement authorities for their swift action and we will monitor this alleged case of domestic terrorism closely as it moves through the legal system," said Zahra Billoo, executive director of the San Francisco Bay Area chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Celli frequently posted on Facebook, where he appeared to align himself with Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump. In October, Celli wrote: "I'll follow this MAN to the end of the world."

Celli also posted: "Donald Trump’s on again I’m feeling good about myself."

He's also posted about undocumented immigrants who have "invaded" America and wrote that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is turning Canada into "A LEFT WING POT SMOKIN WELFARE STATE (sic)".

This wouldn't be the first time an apparent Trump supporter allegedly committed a hate crime. In August, two Boston men cited Trump's anti-immigrant campaign rhetoric when explaining to police why they beat up and urinated on a homeless man. The candidate initially called those followers "passionate" before condemning their crime in stronger terms.


Source


Nope, nothing to do with the rhetoric out of the right. Also, not terrorism.

Just a totally random nutjob.

Apparently he was upset about Hispanics coming up and taking his plumbing work (Will the Plumber?) Just as a point on his delusions, when I've worked construction, Hispanic folks regularly were among the hardest/best workers on the site. It's actually the ones who have been here for extended times and have been given shit for making the white guys look bad or just notice that they are working harder than everyone else that then they take slacking to the level where they were productive.

If Trump wins Iowa he will win the nomination without a doubt, but even if he doesn't win the nomination (I strongly think he will win it and I have for a while) the 30-60% of Republicans who support his craziness will still be here.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 23:21:39
December 21 2015 23:21 GMT
#53745
He's also posted about undocumented immigrants who have "invaded" America and wrote that Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is turning Canada into "A LEFT WING POT SMOKIN WELFARE STATE (sic)"


I don't understand, he's saying that like it's a bad thing?
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
December 22 2015 00:17 GMT
#53746
If trump is going to be nominated then I hope for America that Hillary wont be his opponent. Trump would do very well against Hillary.
Sanders is the voice of reason, wich would be a clear contradiction with trump and make it an easy choise at the election.
Clinton and trump will go head to head,they are similar people. And then clinton will mess up.
I am not the only liberal left wing guy that doesn't like Hilary for some unspecified reason,putting her against trump would be a mistake.
Well that's how I see it.

Republicans should have gone with Romney, lets be honest here. He looks way better then any of the existing candidates. Now it is another lost election unless they manage to pit trump against Hillary.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 00:33:51
December 22 2015 00:31 GMT
#53747
Honestly I think there are more similarities between Trump and Sanders than between Trump and Clinton. Especially his mixed gun voting record and his protectionist policies.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
December 22 2015 00:49 GMT
#53748
On December 22 2015 09:17 Rassy wrote:
If trump is going to be nominated then I hope for America that Hillary wont be his opponent. Trump would do very well against Hillary.
Sanders is the voice of reason, wich would be a clear contradiction with trump and make it an easy choise at the election.
Clinton and trump will go head to head,they are similar people. And then clinton will mess up.
I am not the only liberal left wing guy that doesn't like Hilary for some unspecified reason,putting her against trump would be a mistake.
Well that's how I see it.

Republicans should have gone with Romney, lets be honest here. He looks way better then any of the existing candidates. Now it is another lost election unless they manage to pit trump against Hillary.


from Reuters:

Trump beats Republicans, not Clinton, in one-on-one matchups

Donald Trump would win a hypothetical head-to-head contest against either of his two closest Republican U.S. presidential rivals, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, but he would fall short of beating Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton if the election were held today, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll on Monday.

If the Republican primary featured a face-off between Trump and Cruz, a Texas senator, Trump would win the support of 41 percent of Republican and independent voters, the poll showed. Cruz would take 31 percent, while 28 percent said they would not vote in a Cruz-Trump contest.

If Rubio, a Florida senator, were pitted against Trump, the billionaire real-estate mogul would take 40 percent support of Republican and independent voters to Rubio's 34 percent, according to the poll. Twenty-seven percent said they would not vote. In this matchup, Trump's lead over Rubio is within the survey's credibility interval.

Cruz and Rubio currently sit in second and fourth place of all Republican candidates, respectively, in the run-up to the November 2016 presidential election, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll on Friday.

Despite months of leading the Republican polls, Trump would fall short in a general election competition held today against Clinton, the poll showed. In a one-on-one match-up, the former secretary of state would take 40 percent support of all voters to real estate mogul Trump's 29 percent.

Eight percent of respondents said they did not know which candidate they would support in a Clinton-Trump competition. Fourteen percent said they would not vote for either one, and another 9 percent said they would not vote at all.

The survey of 1,627 likely voters from all parties was conducted between Dec. 16 and Dec. 21, with a credibility interval of 2.8 to 3.7 percentage points.


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<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 01:00:33
December 22 2015 00:56 GMT
#53749
Wow Trump and his crowd are going nuts, it's so bad... where you want to hide your own face from the embarrassment.




Actual quote "I don't care about the world"
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 22 2015 01:06 GMT
#53750
What a time to be alive
rip passion
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-22 01:12:11
December 22 2015 01:11 GMT
#53751
Trump is taunting the protesters haha

"Your voice is too weak darling"
rip passion
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
December 22 2015 01:16 GMT
#53752
If you wait another day, it's going to 40. l m a o
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 22 2015 01:21 GMT
#53753
4 interruptions from when I started. These protesters lol. It's only firing up Trump more
rip passion
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 22 2015 01:23 GMT
#53754
On December 22 2015 10:21 Deathstar wrote:
4 interruptions from when I started. These protesters lol. It's only firing up Trump more


What are they protesting exactly?
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 22 2015 01:23 GMT
#53755
On December 22 2015 10:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 10:21 Deathstar wrote:
4 interruptions from when I started. These protesters lol. It's only firing up Trump more


What are they protesting exactly?

Can't really hear what they're saying.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23799 Posts
December 22 2015 01:27 GMT
#53756
I'm guessing you guys missed the part about joking about killing journalists. He wouldn't kill them though, he hate's them, but he wouldn't kill them.

"It's ALIVE!!!!"
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 22 2015 01:37 GMT
#53757
It's been a while since I watched a Trump rally. Fascinating.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 22 2015 01:38 GMT
#53758
He is a legend. He tweeted a PEPE. Can you imagine that?
Dating thread on TL LUL
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 22 2015 01:44 GMT
#53759
On December 22 2015 10:38 SoSexy wrote:
He is a legend. He tweeted a PEPE. Can you imagine that?



rip passion
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
December 22 2015 01:55 GMT
#53760
Ya I don't think trump would beat Hilary tbh, just that it would be very close. And maybe he would win in the end.
You got to love trump though,everyone is watching. This is the best election in decades.

In other news

More Americans are shunning costly home broadband and using their cellphones to get online, a new survey shows.

Eighty percent of U.S. adults had Internet access this year, whether through a smartphone or a home Internet connection, up from 78 percent two years ago, according to the survey published Monday by the Pew Research Center.



But after years of home broadband growth, slightly fewer adults in 2015 got Internet from providers like home phone or cable company, mostly because it's too expensive for them. The number dropped to 67 percent from 70 percent in the center's 2013 survey.

Meanwhile, the number of people relying on cellphones alone for Internet rose to 13 percent this year from 8 percent in 2013.



That plateau in home broadband use comes as the Obama administration has pushed for greater broadband access and criticized the lack of competition among home Internet providers.

The dip in home Internet use could just be temporary, said Pew researcher John Horrigan. Adoption also flatlined five years ago before picking up again, which he said likely had to with economic difficulties in the aftermath of the recession.

For those without home Internet, 33 percent say the biggest reason is the monthly cost is too high, while 10 percent say a computer is too expensive.

But 12 percent say they don't need it, a smartphone is sufficient.

Of those only getting access through a smartphone, the increase is biggest among low-income Americans. But a smartphone isn't as easy to use as a home computer when it comes to applying for jobs and is often limited by data caps.

Only 5 percent of people who don't have home broadband access say that it's primarily because it's not available or the speed is too slow, underscoring the growth of broadband networks throughout the U.S. over the past 15 years.

Nearly half of people who don't have broadband at home have never had it and aren't interested. That's partly tied to age: 39 percent are 65 or older.

The Pew report drew on a September 2013 survey of 6,020 U.S. adults and several polls conducted in spring, summer and fall of 2015 that included, in total, 6,687 adults.

The margin of error for the home adoption finding was plus or minus 1.3 percentage points in 2015 and 1.4 percentage points in 2013.
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