• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:17
CET 08:17
KST 16:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1498 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2687

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2685 2686 2687 2688 2689 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
December 21 2015 09:35 GMT
#53721
So the assholes at ABC go live without her even though she had to go much farther away than the male candidates to go to the bathroom, and she's to blame for not having a genuine enough smile when she comes back?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6262 Posts
December 21 2015 10:56 GMT
#53722
On December 21 2015 14:35 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 13:01 Doublemint wrote:
is this the point where reality has surpassed satire - again?

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump defended Russian President Vladimir Putin against accusations that he has assassinated political adversaries and journalists, responding to criticism from his rivals over his embrace of praise from the Russian leader.

"Nobody has proven that he's killed anyone. ... He's always denied it. It's never been proven that he's killed anybody,” Trump said on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. “You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, at least in our country. It has not been proven that he's killed reporters."

...

On Thursday, Putin praised Trump during a wide-ranging news conference, calling him “talented without doubt" and "brilliant." Trump has embraced the remarks, drawing fire from critics such as Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who facetiously called the alliance “a match made in heaven.” Trump welcomed Putin's praise, citing it as proof that a Trump administration would be able to work well with the Russians.


WaPo



Pretty funny, entirely Trump-esque. Both Putin and Trump are stage performers.

He's just returning the favour for Putin calling Trump a strong leader.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 13:15:48
December 21 2015 13:13 GMT
#53723
I don't like her, its hard to put my finger on it but this women creeps me out like crazy. Its all the little antics,shes playing the crowd in such on obvious way and that I don't like.

Anyway,trump seems to be loosing it.
The latest defence of putin wont fall well,he is a tough guy but he has to become a bit more smart about things if he wants to win. The latest remark about putin is outright stupid.
It also shows the big weakness of trump. Trumps biggest weakness is his ego that makes him say stupid things at times.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 21 2015 13:33 GMT
#53724
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 21 2015 15:46 GMT
#53725
On December 21 2015 18:20 IgnE wrote:
It wasn't a genuine smile?


From experience, that's an american thing in general.
On track to MA1950A.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 21 2015 16:09 GMT
#53726
in my experience it's a code word for "I don't like someone but doesn't have a valid reason to so here is some random subjective thing no one can prove me wrong on."
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 21 2015 16:17 GMT
#53727
I support Hillary, but I'll admit her smile looks a bit funky sometimes. I think sometimes she gets so wrapped up in calibrating her reactions it looks a little odd. She's an odd blend of confident frontrunner (I know some people will dispute that) and someone deathly afraid of messing up.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 21 2015 16:32 GMT
#53728
just inane to be discussing hillary's smile. like come on
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 21 2015 16:35 GMT
#53729
Yes, it's the combination of her hair and eyes that tells you all you need to know.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
December 21 2015 16:36 GMT
#53730
On December 22 2015 01:32 oneofthem wrote:
just inane to be discussing hillary's smile. like come on


I was starting to think I was going crazy. How in the world is a candidates smile something to even discuss. Slow news day?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 21 2015 16:39 GMT
#53731
On December 21 2015 22:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source


I doubt that this theory will fly on appeal.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 21 2015 16:46 GMT
#53732
On December 22 2015 01:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 01:32 oneofthem wrote:
just inane to be discussing hillary's smile. like come on


I was starting to think I was going crazy. How in the world is a candidates smile something to even discuss. Slow news day?

There is this weird thing about women on TV and if they are not smiling, inviting and happy, people talk about it and act like it’s a big deal. This is especially true on morning TV or something that isn't a political debate.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 21 2015 17:02 GMT
#53733
On December 22 2015 01:39 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 22:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source


I doubt that this theory will fly on appeal.


I rather like the theory.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 17:08:05
December 21 2015 17:05 GMT
#53734
It's a really interesting take on the gay rights issue. These rules really are saying that there are things a man can do that a woman can't.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 21 2015 17:12 GMT
#53735
On December 22 2015 02:02 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 01:39 xDaunt wrote:
On December 21 2015 22:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source


I doubt that this theory will fly on appeal.


I rather like the theory.

The theory is sound, but I agree with xDaunt that I am not sure that Title IX is the law to address this specific issue with. From my understanding of the law, it is very focused on gender discrimination when it comes to school policies, not the actions of a specific staff member.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 21 2015 17:26 GMT
#53736
You deal with Title IX disputes?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 17:35:53
December 21 2015 17:33 GMT
#53737
No, not at all. My expertise in the legal field has nothing to do with civil rights beyond keeping landlords out of trouble for placing terrible ads for apartments.

But in general, federal regulations are not the way that specific cases are addressed. They are used to deal with systematic problems. I could be 100% wrong and it totally applies. But I think it would be used more often if it did.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 21 2015 17:35 GMT
#53738
On December 22 2015 02:02 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2015 01:39 xDaunt wrote:
On December 21 2015 22:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What’s the next frontier in discrimination law? For more than 40 years it’s been illegal across the country to discriminate on the basis of race and sex—and for almost as long, advocates have been trying to add one more category: sexual orientation.

Congress has consistently balked at adding protections for gays and lesbians, and the Supreme Court has never officially moved from its longstanding position that it’s acceptable to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation so long as the government shows a “rational basis” for its actions. (This year’s same-sex marriage decision was narrowly a ruling on people’s right to marry, not about discrimination per se.)

But two basketball players at Pepperdine, and a court in California, have just changed the rules.

The players, Haley Videckis and Layana White, say that their coach and other university staff suspected them of being in a lesbian relationship and systematically harassed them on that basis. According to Videckis and White, the coach on several occasions interrogated each of them about their sexual habits and told them that lesbianism would not be tolerated on the team; they also say he manipulated team rules to prevent the two of them from being able to play.

When they sued, they relied on Title IX, the section of the Civil Rights Act that guarantees women can’t be treated differently in colleges (technically, at any institution receiving federal funds) because of their sex. Title IX doesn’t mention sexual orientation, but Videckis and White argued that that doesn’t matter: discrimination against them on the basis of sexual orientation is really sex discrimination, and therefore prohibited.

Why? Here’s the thinking: If either of them had been a man, their coach would have had no trouble at all with the fact they were dating women. He only minded when women dated women. And punishing a woman for doing something that it would be acceptable for a man to do is sex discrimination, plain and simple.

On Tuesday, the federal district court in Los Angeles endorsed this theory, agreeing that their coach’s behavior would constitute sex discrimination and that Videckis and White could sue on these grounds, and the case can now proceed. Indeed, the court embraced the larger theory that all sexual-orientation discrimination is sex discrimination.


Source


I doubt that this theory will fly on appeal.


I rather like the theory.

I'll give them kudos for creativity, but the case law on what "sex" means in the context of the federal anti-discrimination statutes is pretty damned clear. No responsible court will give different definitions to sex under Title VII and Title IX.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-21 19:06:33
December 21 2015 19:04 GMT
#53739
Were the coaching staff harassing them because of lesbian relationships in general, or lesbian relationships with individuals on the team/each other?

If it's the latter their theory doesn't really pan out anyway-the coaches might also have harassed male members of the team for pursuing relationships with female members on the same team, there just aren't any male members on the team to test that with. Intrateam relationships might be the problem, not samesex.
A_needle_jog
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
Korea (South)699 Posts
December 21 2015 19:37 GMT
#53740
If I would be american person I vote Bernie Sanders
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/3949980/1/llllllllllll/
Prev 1 2685 2686 2687 2688 2689 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Korean StarCraft League #85
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
FoxeR 82
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 765
firebathero 469
EffOrt 288
Larva 286
IntoTheRainbow 77
Bale 29
Noble 24
Shinee 19
soO 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm193
League of Legends
JimRising 736
Other Games
summit1g8459
WinterStarcraft571
febbydoto28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick760
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH127
• Response 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1449
• Stunt243
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
4h 43m
ShoWTimE vs sOs
Serral vs Reynor
Zoun vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs Lambo
OSC
5h 43m
Replay Cast
16h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.