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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
December 20 2015 19:15 GMT
#53701
This is your change America,your change to get back the middle class.
Do not make the mistake of voting for Hillary. I want a women as president probably more then anyone, but not this women! That way she said "sry" after coming back from the break a bit late and smiling catching the laughs. Its all so fake.
Bernie is the guy, hes real and he will work for the American middle class,not his corporate sponsors.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
December 20 2015 19:17 GMT
#53702
On December 21 2015 04:15 Rassy wrote:
This is your change America,your change to get back the middle class.
Do not make the mistake of voting for Hillary. I want a women as president probably more then anyone, but not this women! That way she said "sry" after coming back from the break a bit late and smiling catching the laughs. Its all so fake.
Bernie is the guy, hes real and he will work for the American middle class,not his corporate sponsors.

And he will accomplish nothing because a Tea Party controlled Senate and Congress will never work with a socialist.
But then neither will Hillary because they will not work with her either.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 20 2015 23:01 GMT
#53703
Republican presidential candidate and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said in an interview Sunday that he "hated" being the party's front runner and feels "much better back here."

The latest national poll showed Bush with 3 percent, along with Ohio Gov. John Kasich. Donald Trump had the lead with 41 percent support, according to the Monmouth poll.

Bush told "Face the Nation" host John Dickerson that he hated being the front runner.

"Six months ago people thought you were the front runner," Dickerson said.

"Yeah, I hated that," Bush replied. "I feel much better back here."

Dickerson asked him to clarify.

"Well I've always thought that there was going to be a high expectation for me. And I totally get it," Bush continued. "Because I have a brother that was president and a father that was president. And that higher expectation was important to realize. And so being the front runner made me feel like the other guys just dancing right through this. I have to go earn it. I have higher expectations on me than people have on me."

Bush said it doesn't bother him that there are high expectations for him and "feels good" where the campaign is now.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
December 20 2015 23:06 GMT
#53704
On December 21 2015 04:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 04:15 Rassy wrote:
This is your change America,your change to get back the middle class.
Do not make the mistake of voting for Hillary. I want a women as president probably more then anyone, but not this women! That way she said "sry" after coming back from the break a bit late and smiling catching the laughs. Its all so fake.
Bernie is the guy, hes real and he will work for the American middle class,not his corporate sponsors.

And he will accomplish nothing because a Tea Party controlled Senate and Congress will never work with a socialist.
But then neither will Hillary because they will not work with her either.

The fact that you think there'd be a Republican-led Senate (and to a lesser extent Congress) makes me pause.

You can be sure that if Bernie somehow wins the Democratic nominee and takes the Presidency, he will take the rest of the country with him. This is why it's important for Bernie to win. He is the only Democratic candidate who could excite the base in a way that would bring out record levels of voter turnout. Provided he can defeat the establishment first, of course.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
December 20 2015 23:55 GMT
#53705
When should we expect to see Rubio take off? People keep reminding me of how long it took Romney to take off. It's still just so weird for me to think that at one point it'll be Rubio in the upper 30s.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23617 Posts
December 21 2015 00:04 GMT
#53706
On December 21 2015 08:55 Mohdoo wrote:
When should we expect to see Rubio take off? People keep reminding me of how long it took Romney to take off. It's still just so weird for me to think that at one point it'll be Rubio in the upper 30s.


Rubio won't get to 30%, but if he does, it would be because it's him Trump and Cruz in a three way race after all the other candidates have dropped out.

People can and do dismiss the poll results on who people are voting for, but if you look at the issue polls Trump is crushing the competition there also.

Though I feel like this election is some form of mass masochism where the two least likable/trustworthy candidates are leading.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 21 2015 00:19 GMT
#53707
Rubio seems like the guy who hasn't had an independent thought since entering politics. Can't see him going far.

Also, that Jeb Bush interview is a joke.

"Six months ago people thought you were the front runner," Dickerson said.

"Yeah, I hated that," Bush replied. "I feel much better back here."


Why would you ever say that lol
rip passion
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 21 2015 00:56 GMT
#53708
I love Trump. This is the best campaign I've ever witnessed.
Dating thread on TL LUL
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45248 Posts
December 21 2015 00:57 GMT
#53709
On December 21 2015 09:19 Deathstar wrote:
Rubio seems like the guy who hasn't had an independent thought since entering politics. Can't see him going far.

Also, that Jeb Bush interview is a joke.

Show nested quote +
"Six months ago people thought you were the front runner," Dickerson said.

"Yeah, I hated that," Bush replied. "I feel much better back here."


Why would you ever say that lol


I feel like he literally never ever knows what to say, except he says the wrong thing a bit more eloquently (as in, without mispronouncing as many words) than his brother.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22073 Posts
December 21 2015 01:07 GMT
#53710
On December 21 2015 09:19 Deathstar wrote:
Rubio seems like the guy who hasn't had an independent thought since entering politics. Can't see him going far.

Also, that Jeb Bush interview is a joke.

Show nested quote +
"Six months ago people thought you were the front runner," Dickerson said.

"Yeah, I hated that," Bush replied. "I feel much better back here."


Why would you ever say that lol

Because he never wanted to be a presidential candidate? Because he is pressured into this by his brother/father?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 21 2015 01:42 GMT
#53711
Jimmy Carter's grandson (28) passes away

That's sad.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 21 2015 01:52 GMT
#53712
This may seem cruel, but it isn't really any sadder than the thousands of other people who die every day. :-\
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
December 21 2015 02:11 GMT
#53713
On December 21 2015 10:52 Chewbacca. wrote:
This may seem cruel, but it isn't really any sadder than the thousands of other people who die every day. :-\


That is cruel, its not seemingly cruel, its very sad and thats that, its rather crass comparing how sad someones death is. I get what you mean, but these are things you think and not say. Just some advice.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
December 21 2015 02:17 GMT
#53714
On December 21 2015 10:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
Jimmy Carter's grandson (28) passes away

That's sad.


It's especially sad when a leader dies. Grand kids? Kind of a stretch..
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45248 Posts
December 21 2015 02:53 GMT
#53715
It's always sad when a person's heart just gives out. Especially at the premature age of 28. Heck, I'll be that age in 4 months, and I have wayyy too much other stuff to do before I'm dead.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8703 Posts
December 21 2015 04:01 GMT
#53716
is this the point where reality has surpassed satire - again?

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump defended Russian President Vladimir Putin against accusations that he has assassinated political adversaries and journalists, responding to criticism from his rivals over his embrace of praise from the Russian leader.

"Nobody has proven that he's killed anyone. ... He's always denied it. It's never been proven that he's killed anybody,” Trump said on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. “You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, at least in our country. It has not been proven that he's killed reporters."

...

On Thursday, Putin praised Trump during a wide-ranging news conference, calling him “talented without doubt" and "brilliant." Trump has embraced the remarks, drawing fire from critics such as Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who facetiously called the alliance “a match made in heaven.” Trump welcomed Putin's praise, citing it as proof that a Trump administration would be able to work well with the Russians.


WaPo



Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#53717
On December 21 2015 11:17 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2015 10:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
Jimmy Carter's grandson (28) passes away

That's sad.


It's especially sad when a leader dies. Grand kids? Kind of a stretch..


I mean, a guy outliving his grandkids is sad. Like burying your children, but worse.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 21 2015 05:35 GMT
#53718
On December 21 2015 13:01 Doublemint wrote:
is this the point where reality has surpassed satire - again?

Show nested quote +
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump defended Russian President Vladimir Putin against accusations that he has assassinated political adversaries and journalists, responding to criticism from his rivals over his embrace of praise from the Russian leader.

"Nobody has proven that he's killed anyone. ... He's always denied it. It's never been proven that he's killed anybody,” Trump said on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday. “You're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, at least in our country. It has not been proven that he's killed reporters."

...

On Thursday, Putin praised Trump during a wide-ranging news conference, calling him “talented without doubt" and "brilliant." Trump has embraced the remarks, drawing fire from critics such as Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who facetiously called the alliance “a match made in heaven.” Trump welcomed Putin's praise, citing it as proof that a Trump administration would be able to work well with the Russians.


WaPo



Pretty funny, entirely Trump-esque. Both Putin and Trump are stage performers.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
December 21 2015 09:18 GMT
#53719
On December 21 2015 04:15 Rassy wrote:
That way she said "sry" after coming back from the break a bit late and smiling catching the laughs. Its all so fake.

What was fake about it?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 21 2015 09:20 GMT
#53720
It wasn't a genuine smile?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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