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On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad).
Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets....
On November 19 2012 13:14 Cillas wrote:
can u read the wikipedia article on the blockade. thanks.
And to state a question, why should they end the rocket fire? The UN doesnt recognize the human catastrophy there because the USA blocks everything. No one recognizes it. So what would they achieve? They still would get overruled by israel. Israel still would build more and more illegal settlements. Sanctions wont stop. (Even if hamas were to stop it, there are other factions, so israel would always have a reason, and if its not rockets there will be every crime called as political motivated).
Racism is a well known factor there(in both sides).
But because Israel is the way bigger military power there, THEY can do what they want, they can stop everything. They can stop the airstrikes, the racism, the settlements. EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING? If they stopped everything. If they stopped being the militant abusers you think they are. Let's say they take it a step further and dropped all their weapons. Next week you'll be hearing about the biggest genocide in history.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets....
heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck.
u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft.
its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ...
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On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ...
If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you?
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On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you?
Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away.
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both sides are at fault. it's stupid to assume otherwise...
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On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away.
And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you?
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^ Not really. Isrealis are the aggressors.Not to mention they're much more powerful.
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On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you?
Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already.
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On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already.
So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens.
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On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens.
A ironically fitting analogy would be David and Goliath.
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On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens.
Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%.
Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher.
So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours.
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I just don't understand the anti-israel people in here. Israel is a country that has the ability to militarily crush every single nation around them at one time in one strike but they DONT DO IT. If they were the tyrant agressors you guys all think they are why the fuck wouldn't they just go to war and win?.
Palestine is a state which places their stock of rockets and weapons underneath civillian centers just so that if Israel takes it out with casualties they will have the press all over them.
-Palestine launches rockets at Israeli civilians
-Israel gets sick of it and bombs Hamas leader
-Palestine in return fires even more rockets, just one after another
-Israel decides enough is enough and retaliates by trying to take out weapon stocks with airstrikes.
THEY ARE AT WAR FOR FUCKS SAKE. Israel can't deny the fact that an aggressive state has declared war on them. Israel is the country which has been trying for peace talks but Hamas the terrorist group which palestine is HOUSING says the only option is to kill all of Israel or deport them.
If the canadian government decided to house an organization that threw bombs over the border into the US then I understand that I as a civilian will be seen as COLLATERAL DAMAGE if a terrorist leader is nearby.
Both are at fault. Israel for it's settlements and Palestine for it's mentally retarded aggression against the most militaristic country in the world. I just don't understand how anyone can say that Palestine is innocent in this
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On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours.
lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm
As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut".....
Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap.
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On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Might makes right. When Gaddhafi bombed civilians, the entire world condemned him. Israel does it, and people just say that they have a right to deal with their internal affairs (but err yeah, killing is bad). Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap.
And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source.
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On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:On November 19 2012 13:15 Feartheguru wrote:
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Nice comparison, except you forgot the part where Israeli people are getting shot at with rockets.... heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck. u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft. its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source.
Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it?
edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society"
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On November 19 2012 13:47 Dawski wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:21 Cillas wrote:
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heres comes this bad statistics that tell for every israeli that dies there are hundreds of palestin, what the heck.
u forgot the part where palestin people are getting shot at with aircraft.
its like they fight israel with swords and getting answered by guns ... If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source. Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it? edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society", ive been drinking :p
It's sort of like a parent that snaps at their child who has been a brat all day and slaps them. The child is wrong, but the parent is wrong too.
NOTE: MURDERING Israeli citizens is not anything like a bratty child, but it doesn't mean we can't hope that Israel would show more restraint than they do.
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On November 19 2012 13:51 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:47 Dawski wrote:On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:
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If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source. Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it? edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society", ive been drinking :p It's sort of like a parent that snaps at their child who has been a brat all day and slaps them. The child is wrong, but the parent is wrong too. NOTE: MURDERING Israeli citizens is not anything like a bratty child, but it doesn't mean we can't hope that Israel would should more restraint than they do.
fair enough but look at the poll which asked "who do you support?" a majority for some reason picked Palestine. It's almost like people like Palestine only for the underdog mentality
also im sry but yes palestine IS killing Israelis, in the parent/kid analogy again the kid cannot do anything to the parent. Plus Israel IS striking targets like leaders and weopon stocks, they are not just blindly smacking the kid
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On November 19 2012 13:51 hinnolinn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:47 Dawski wrote:On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:24 Feartheguru wrote:
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If I have a gun and you have a sword and you choose to cut me, I'll shoot you. Is that surprising to you? Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source. Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it? edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society", ive been drinking :p It's sort of like a parent that snaps at their child who has been a brat all day and slaps them. The child is wrong, but the parent is wrong too. NOTE: MURDERING Israeli citizens is not anything like a bratty child, but it doesn't mean we can't hope that Israel would should more restraint than they do.
You can target the people who orchestrated the attacks and kill civilians in the process or do nothing and get attacked more until you fall apart, even though you have the capability to stop it.
Which option is logical?
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On November 19 2012 13:54 Dawski wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:51 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:47 Dawski wrote:On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:27 hinnolinn wrote:
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Except it's much closer to you have a sniper rifle, him having a pistol, and you being a half a mile away. And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source. Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it? edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society", ive been drinking :p It's sort of like a parent that snaps at their child who has been a brat all day and slaps them. The child is wrong, but the parent is wrong too. NOTE: MURDERING Israeli citizens is not anything like a bratty child, but it doesn't mean we can't hope that Israel would should more restraint than they do. fair enough but look at the poll which asked "who do you support?" a majority for some reason picked Palestine. It's almost like people like Palestine only for the underdog mentality
huh which poll are you looking at? Israel has more support.
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On November 19 2012 13:56 Feartheguru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 13:54 Dawski wrote:On November 19 2012 13:51 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:47 Dawski wrote:On November 19 2012 13:46 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:40 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:37 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:33 Feartheguru wrote:On November 19 2012 13:31 hinnolinn wrote:On November 19 2012 13:30 Feartheguru wrote:
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And if he chooses to shoot at me with the intent to kill. I'll snipe him. Is that surprising to you? Little bit, yeah. The accuracy of a pistol at half a mile probably means that the statistical probability of him harming you is approaching 0% if not there already. So you admit what you called "a more accurate example" is actually a piece of garbage not in any way representative of the current situation. Given that Hamas rockets are able to harm Israeli citizens. Let's see, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel#Casualties.2C_Fatalities_and_rockets_fired which is admittedly wikipedia, the deaths from rockets is at 61 while the total attacks is at 12791. That looks pretty close to less than half a percent. I will admit that the number of injured people is pretty high, about 15%. Meanwhile, swords are pretty deadly if you get "cut" as you said. So I'd think the chances of you dieing before firing your weapon back is MUCH higher. So no, my analogy is much closer to the truth than yours. lol... why would we care about what percent of rockets hit? /facepalm As long as one person gets kill by the rockets Israel is getting "cut"..... Your analogy is based on the idea that the side with the pistol has virtually no chance to harm the other side, so much so you wouldn't even give a reprisal. Hamas has kill Israelis, therefore your example is crap. And your analogy was based on the idea that the person with a sword still has a really good chance in a fight, which is just utter crap if you look at really any source. Look guys, you're missing the fucking point. One side is harming another sides people, the first side knows the other side has the capability of wiping out more of it's own people but continues to do so, latter side retaliates and people get mad at them for it? edit: sry decided to take out the "fuck this society", ive been drinking :p It's sort of like a parent that snaps at their child who has been a brat all day and slaps them. The child is wrong, but the parent is wrong too. NOTE: MURDERING Israeli citizens is not anything like a bratty child, but it doesn't mean we can't hope that Israel would should more restraint than they do. fair enough but look at the poll which asked "who do you support?" a majority for some reason picked Palestine. It's almost like people like Palestine only for the underdog mentality huh which poll are you looking at? Israel has more support.
does it? sry my ignorance. I looked at this thread right after the initial strike which killed the HAMAS leader and Palestine had most of TL's support
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