EPTAnd just because we used to be as barbaric does not mean we should sit placidly while people are killed for no good reason.
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TotalBalanceSC2
Canada475 Posts
And just because we used to be as barbaric does not mean we should sit placidly while people are killed for no good reason. | ||
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BadgerBadger8264
Netherlands409 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:24 McBengt wrote: In that case he was being completely fucking deranged. I can't believe anyone would actually make that comparison, or any sort of effort to defend this. Not even here. I don't think you have a strong grasp of the English language. Please reread what I said and then come back to me. If you still can't figure it out I'll spell it out for you. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:25 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Soooooooooo they're going to potentially execute a minor with downs for a crime that she may or may not have committed? The only thing that the state has going is that the parents fled which means they know she did something wrong. If the parents were smart, they would have stayed as to eliminate all supicision. In german news they said, the parents fled from lynch mobs, not from the police, there are no charges against the family. They were later arrested to secure their safety | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:29 Art.FeeL wrote: This Quran burning thing can't be new. I wonder how early muslims dealt with it. By murdering? Children? Terrible, terrible indeed. This is most likely just total bullshit. The news gives no names or evidence that this actually happened. To get rid of a old copy of the Quran, you're not suppose to throw it away in the trash but rather bury, put it in flowing water or burn it. The fact that this poor girl burned the Quran isn't an offensive statement unless she was stomping on it or throwing it around and showing that she was disrespectful and had the intention of doing harm to the Quran. Furthermore, just because it's Arabic text doesn't mean it's the Quran... Urdu and Arabic are extremely similar and Urdu being the native language of many Pakistani's, there would be no way this girl would be sentenced to death right away. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:23 Xiron wrote: Sorry but you went totally off topic. He said: 'There are no laws. It's presence. Inquisition happened quite some time ago, you know? To be fair he said they would be shunned not killed, im sure theres many places in the US where they would be shunned out of the community for doing something like that | ||
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Sandrosuperstar
Sweden525 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:27 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: WTF? Fuck multiculturalism if that means we should allow the execution of minors who are not fit to stand trial for burning piece of paper. Are you trolling? This cannot be your real opinion. Well is it ok to circumcise minors? How should a child's basic right compare to the culture it's born in? Why is it ok for religions to baptize children when they can't even decide for themselves if they believe? Why are people so eager to criticize other cultures but never dares to take the whole step and scrutinize our own culture, tradition and religion? What do we do that is detrimental to our prisoners, children and sick? How can we improve such things, are there any whistles that needs blowing? | ||
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mememolly
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:38 arb wrote: To be fair he said they would be shunned not killed, im sure theres many places in the US where they would be shunned out of the community for doing something like that You could also be shunned out of a community for being pro/anti pot legalization. Where are we going with this? | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:32 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: I don't think you have a strong grasp of the English language. Please reread what I said and then come back to me. If you still can't figure it out I'll spell it out for you. I didn't bother reading all of it, I had my quota of angsty teenage anti-conformist rage for the day. Nuances, a wonderful concept. You should look into it. | ||
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:42 RoosterSamurai wrote: You could also be shunned out of a community for being pro/anti pot legalization. Where are we going with this? no you shouldn't, nothing wrong with pot, better than alcohol or those cancer sticks that are legal | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:38 arb wrote: To be fair he said they would be shunned not killed, im sure theres many places in the US where they would be shunned out of the community for doing something like that Admittedly, we've moved past putting people to death for disrespecting the church in the 'West', and sure you can't legally put someone to death for doing so. I was trying to draw a comparison between the heavy theist influence in many let's call them 'Muslim' countries today and the practices of let's call them 'Christian' countries in the not-so-distant past. Separation of church from state is a fairly new concept in the grand scheme of things and isn't exactly globally accepted. | ||
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:00 reki- wrote: As far as I can tell from this article the child hasn't been convicted yet or had a trial even so why is this being reported by CNN other than the shock value to generate hits/views? You just answered your own question. Views = income = profit = what they are trying to achieve. | ||
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reki-
Netherlands327 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:44 McBengt wrote: I didn't bother reading all of it, I had my quota of angsty teenage anti-conformist rage for the day. Nuances, a wonderful concept. You should look into it. I was merely trying to provide a different point of view  | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:45 mememolly wrote: no you shouldn't, nothing wrong with pot, better than alcohol or those cancer sticks that are legal Way to completely miss the point 100% entirely. Also yes you would be shunned. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:41 Sandrosuperstar wrote: Well is it ok to circumcise minors? How should a child's basic right compare to the culture it's born in? Why is it ok for religions to baptize children when they can't even decide for themselves if they believe? Why are people so eager to criticize other cultures but never dares to take the whole step and scrutinize our own culture, tradition and religion? What do we do that is detrimental to our prisoners, children and sick? How can we improve such things, are there any whistles that needs blowing? So, for you, there's no difference between putting some water on a baby and killing a child ? | ||
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Psychobabas
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Chargelot
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On August 21 2012 05:41 Sandrosuperstar wrote: Well is it ok to circumcise minors? How much value should a child's basic right compared to the culture it's born in? Why is it ok for religions to baptize children when they can't even decide for themselves if they believe? Why are people so eager to criticize other cultures but never dares to take the whole step and scrutinize our own culture, tradition and religion? What do we do that is detrimental to our prisoners, children and sick? How can we improve such things, are there any whistles that needs blowing? In the world of anthropology, ethnocentricity is the enemy. You're taught to ignore strange things. They're not weird. They're not bad. They're not lesser. They're just different from ours. Tribal peoples aren't a part of an underdeveloped community, they just live differently than us. Foreign concepts and views of issues that we may disagree with aren't bad, they're just different. But the line must be drawn somewhere. This is not exactly an unheard of issue. The general consensus, I believe, is to only intervene where humanity is being exploited, degraded, destroyed, humiliated needlessly, or harmed unreasonably. Much like a doctrine regarding war crimes. If you would consider the state-imposed death of an 11 year old girl who may or may not have burned some specific paper, who has not been given the circumstances in life to understand the difference between the consequences of burning it and burning something else, to be a completely fair, normal, cultural difference, that speaks volumes about you, not the practice. You may speak of circumcision when the topic is causing temporary pain to children based on religious beliefs. But this topic is about the possibility of intentionally murdering a child based on religious beliefs. That is where the world must step in; that is the line which must not be crossed. You may wish to see that line extended to include any form of harm, or you may wish to see that line abolished and allow everything and anything to happen. But the vast majority of people on this planet would not wish for the death of a child for any reason, let alone the burning of some paper. | ||
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