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OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
August 21 2012 16:10 GMT
#181
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.
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TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
August 21 2012 16:13 GMT
#182
On August 21 2012 21:21 exterminatus wrote:
Nuclear war between India and Pakshitstan would be victory for mankind.
Better to have nuclear pollution instead of these "humans".

User was warned for this post

If you were born there i think you would fit in perfectly. There are idiots on both sides of the fence. Like you just proved.

This is a really sad story. It's wierd how these men seek to accuse this girl for something they're not sure of she've done. How can this stand any ground in front of a jury?
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 16:19:04
August 21 2012 16:16 GMT
#183
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.

Extremist Buddhists aren't stoning people for blasphemy or flying planes into the buildings. Neither are extremist Christians, the extent to which they irritate me are "merely" their lobbying efforts on abortion and repression of sex in general.

These groups don't blow themselves up for virgins in Heaven or murder cartoonists. Islamist do.

Wilders, like Westergaard and the other Danish cartoonists, has been widely vilified for "seeking to inflame" the Muslim community. Even if this had been his intention, this criticism represents an almost supernatural coincidence of moral blindness and political imprudence. The point is not (and will never be) that some free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has, more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.

There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for "racism" and "Islamophobia."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/losing-our-spines-to-save_b_100132.html
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
August 21 2012 16:34 GMT
#184
On August 22 2012 01:13 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 21:21 exterminatus wrote:
Nuclear war between India and Pakshitstan would be victory for mankind.
Better to have nuclear pollution instead of these "humans".

User was warned for this post

If you were born there i think you would fit in perfectly. There are idiots on both sides of the fence. Like you just proved.

This is a really sad story. It's wierd how these men seek to accuse this girl for something they're not sure of she've done. How can this stand any ground in front of a jury?


Of course straight out A bombing them is nonsense, but doesnt this make us guilty as well because we do not really interveen ? Yeah we talk and blabla but we dont do anything and in my opinion, this makes us as the more enlightend western beeing as guilty as them.
Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 21 2012 18:18 GMT
#185
Pakistan Is just what it has always been, a example of a pure Islamic state, let rage at this while we can, soon to come to the United Kingdom ( or Dhimmi Kingdom if you will)
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
August 21 2012 18:22 GMT
#186
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.



Technically alcohol is a poison and a drug, just one thats become so ingrained in society that it's forgotten about and not looked at as such...

Kinda like something else....
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Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 21 2012 18:48 GMT
#187
On August 22 2012 03:22 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.



Technically alcohol is a poison and a drug, just one thats become so ingrained in society that it's forgotten about and not looked at as such...

Kinda like something else....


You can also die from drinking to much water
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
August 21 2012 18:52 GMT
#188
On August 22 2012 03:48 Bahamut1337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:22 erin[go]bragh wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.



Technically alcohol is a poison and a drug, just one thats become so ingrained in society that it's forgotten about and not looked at as such...

Kinda like something else....


You can also die from drinking to much water

I think you're missing the point. One is necessary for consumption daily.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
August 21 2012 19:02 GMT
#189
On August 22 2012 03:52 Flamingo777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:48 Bahamut1337 wrote:
On August 22 2012 03:22 erin[go]bragh wrote:
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.



Technically alcohol is a poison and a drug, just one thats become so ingrained in society that it's forgotten about and not looked at as such...

Kinda like something else....


You can also die from drinking to much water

I think you're missing the point. One is necessary for consumption daily.


Well, there was this old dude in France who swore by his glass of red wine a day for living to over the age of 100. A friend of mine's grandfather received a letter from Queen Elizabeth for being one of the oldest men in Canada, also over 100. He drinks a glass of Vodka every morning for breakfast. Now that we're over this derailment conversation, which is taking away from the discussion, let's get back to talking about this Sharia law being a little, no let's say extremely overboard with their misinterpretations of "God's will" and how it's a bane on humanity.
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Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
August 21 2012 19:15 GMT
#190
Ahh, Religion doesen't harm anyone! See?! See?

And btw, Islam is a religion of peace.
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Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 21 2012 19:22 GMT
#191
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.


Could you name me the attacks caused by Christians / Jews / Buddists and others the last week? Motivated by their religion.

Islamic Terrorism is daily reality. From Moscow New York Madrid and Mumbai to Kingshaha. Islam is a religion always spread by the sword. Comparing it to Christianity and other religions is laughable. I can mock jesus in the middle of Rome, while I cannot even enter Mecca as an infidel.

2012.08.19 (Abyan, Yemen) - An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out three souls.
2012.08.19 (Lashkar Gah, Afghanistan) - Islamic bombers kill three people at a cemetery.
2012.08.19 (Malgobek, Ingushetia) - A Fedayeen suicide bomber enters a funeral and slaughters at least seven mourners.
2012.08.18 (Mosul, Iraq) - Muslim terrorists kill six family members in their homes.
2012.08.18 (Michni, Pakistan) - Four young men are brutally gunned down by radical Sunnis.
2012.08.18 (Herat, Afghanistan) - Fundamentalist bombers murder four people at a crowded market.






dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
August 21 2012 19:22 GMT
#192
On August 22 2012 04:15 Thylacine wrote:
Ahh, Religion doesen't harm anyone! See?! See?

And btw, Islam is a religion of peace.


Do I detect a few hints of sarcasm? It's hard without being able to hear the tone in your voice or interpret body language.
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Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 19:36:06
August 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#193
On August 22 2012 01:16 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 01:10 OceanLab wrote:
On August 22 2012 00:55 Vandrad wrote:
On August 21 2012 22:29 Littlemuff wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:19 Morpheus.EU wrote:
On August 21 2012 07:12 Skilledblob wrote:
gotta love these "muslims are stupid" and "religion is evil" circlejerks


Religion is the only reason these kinds of things happen. In secular states, like all of Europe and the USA, you would never get a death-penalty for burning a book. Religion is evil.

You basically have an issue with Islam and Sharia Law which heavily influences the goverment of Islamic nations. Its pretty stupid to bash on all religion.


No all of religion does nothing but create problems

I'm not religious myself, but that's just plain wrong and ignorant. Extremists in every religions cause problems, but that's like saying drinking a glass of wine is wrong because getting shit-faced is wrong.

Extremist Buddhists aren't stoning people for blasphemy or flying planes into the buildings. Neither are extremist Christians, the extent to which they irritate me are "merely" their lobbying efforts on abortion and repression of sex in general.

These groups don't blow themselves up for virgins in Heaven or murder cartoonists. Islamist do.

Show nested quote +
Wilders, like Westergaard and the other Danish cartoonists, has been widely vilified for "seeking to inflame" the Muslim community. Even if this had been his intention, this criticism represents an almost supernatural coincidence of moral blindness and political imprudence. The point is not (and will never be) that some free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has, more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.

There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn't, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for "racism" and "Islamophobia."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/losing-our-spines-to-save_b_100132.html

To be fair, unlike Christianity, Islam didn't get the luxury of being dragged into the modern world while kicking, screaming and accusing everyone of heresy every step of the way.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
August 21 2012 19:54 GMT
#194
The fact that there are no evidence itself should be enough to stop charges. If it wasn't a third world country.
However, I wonder how international rights organisation will respond to this, or have they already?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
August 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#195
On August 22 2012 04:54 RogerX wrote:
The fact that there are no evidence itself should be enough to stop charges. If it wasn't a third world country.
However, I wonder how international rights organisation will respond to this, or have they already?


I wonder what power any human rights organization has to actually do anything about it. Sure, they can make a big stink about things but the inherent flaw with their beliefs is that they believe countries have the right to sovereignty and freedom of religion. Also, I doubt they're willing to forcefully exert their beliefs in the same way extremist Muslims are. This is something of a case of pen vs sword. Back in World War 2 it took tremendous atrocities to drive good men and women into action against what are today regarded as evil regimes (expansionist extremist fascists). Somewhere along the line human rights organizations will have to realize that their enemy doesn't give a fuck about human rights.
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GNS
Profile Joined May 2012
18 Posts
August 21 2012 20:20 GMT
#196
once again religion causes problems ...
Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
August 21 2012 20:27 GMT
#197
On August 22 2012 04:22 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 04:15 Thylacine wrote:
Ahh, Religion doesen't harm anyone! See?! See?

And btw, Islam is a religion of peace.


Do I detect a few hints of sarcasm? It's hard without being able to hear the tone in your voice or interpret body language.


Offcourse he is sarcastic, its the most violent religion around right now.
Bjoernzor
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden159 Posts
August 21 2012 20:37 GMT
#198
People keep getting killed in the name of god and religion. More news at 11 T_T
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love" - Day9
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
August 21 2012 20:38 GMT
#199
On August 22 2012 00:44 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 21:21 Shiragaku wrote:
What is rather sad is that the US does little to calm down Islamic fundamentalism. I mean, take a look at our greatest ally, Saudi Arabia.

And there has been a major rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan after the invasion. And we helped start it in the Cold War but it has gotten much worse after we invaded the nation. I personally blame the Soviets more than anything for invading Afghanistan in the first place and Afghanistan was surprisingly not a country near failing, it was a common vacation resort for people that want to go out of country but cannot afford a place like Japan or America but we helped, although no directly, with the rise of Islamic fundamentalism.

Plus, although Ali Bhutto was no angel, we helped overthrow him and installed an Islamic scumbag.

Edited grammar errors. Sorry zalz D:

They went in at the behest of the Afghani government to crush Islamofascist fanatics. I blame the US and Saudis for supporting terrorism and Islamic extremism against a secular, forward-minded Afghani government because the US govt. apparently preferred the spread of Islamic extremism instead of Soviet influence in a place in which it already existed coupled with a poor country moving forward. Look where that got us with Taliban, 9/11, etc... It was a stupid move on our part.

That said, why do we support Saudi Arabia so much? Sure, the ruler of Mecca is a faithful bitch to Uncle Sam (funny how that works out), but they are among the most radicalized and fundamentalist people in the world. I guess our interests mean more than promoting secularism and forward-progress in an increasingly backward region. To be frank, our actions and policies are no different from what any power past or present has done, but it isn't making the situation better in the Mideast... a lot worse if anything and this goes as far back as the 50s.


If I'm not mistaken, the rulers of Saudi Arabia are in fact relatively progressive. It's the people of SA who tend to be Islamist. Therefore, our support of SA actually works against fundamental Islam by keeping a secular king in power.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
August 21 2012 20:44 GMT
#200
On August 22 2012 05:20 GNS wrote:
once again religion causes problems ...

I'm an atheist but I dislike when people point the finger at religion for shit like this. Religion can be and is good for society in some ways but is often warped to perpetrate evil. Look at a Mass murderer like Hitler. Hilter wasn't a religious man yet he is responsible for the death of millions. If Hilter said that he killed 6 million Jews for GOD or Jesus, people would blame religion when in fact Hitler was just a lunatic. There are plenty of peaceful religious people who wouldnt hurt a soul. There are also plenty of non-religious people who are murderers etc. When shit like what's in the OP happens, it's more due to social/economic reasons. I am not saying religion has no impact but you shouldnt make it seem as if religion is the main cause. Crazy people are crazy and do crazy shit.
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