EPTNBA Playoffs 2012 - Page 132
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itkovian
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icystorage
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Telcontar
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Ace
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Telcontar
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take a 3. -_- | ||
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ghrur
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Ace
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On May 23 2012 10:54 Telcontar wrote: 5 vs 4 take a 3. -_- well...he was open  | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On May 23 2012 10:50 icystorage wrote: i really thought lebron said that quote because he was pissed at the media picking on him. i thought it was just a come back Basically someone in the press asked him "what do you have to say to the people who are happy that you lost?", to paraphrase, and I think Lebron really just wanted to tell those people to lay off him. It's true, it's sort of sad how much many people hound the guy on everything he does, and in the end those people will still wake up the same person they were the day yesterday. The way he worded it definitely wasn't very good and came off really really poorly--he realized that and tried to sort of tone down his language towards the end, but the damage was already done. I honestly don't believe LBJ is so arrogant as to look down in that way on everybody else--he probably was feeling like total crap after all the promises that ended up being for nothing and already felt the collective weight of the criticism that was/would be directed at him, and just wanted to say something against the legions and legions of haters (albeit perhaps without the greatest tact). Heat are really showing the Pacers who's boss tonight :o | ||
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justinpal
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Hot_Bid
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On May 23 2012 10:47 Ace wrote: When they asked Wade about it he mentioned the Miami Heat does that every year to open up the season for their fans. If LeBron wants to promise chips at an event for MIAMI HEAT fans then so be it - it doesn't concern you. He didn't say it during a nationally televised interview during a game, he didn't say it a press conference. Of all places to say it that was it. Get mad at him all you want but to try and pass judgement on something so silly as that is ridiculous when it wasn't even meant for you. He said it at a Q&A that was obviously going to be televised. These athletes are public figures and they know it. Tweeting something, saying something to a stadium full of people with cameras there, they know after years of being in the spotlight that these things get out. The argument that just because its a Miami fan event is laughable. Shaq did the same thing and didn't get any flak for it, because he had cred and didn't do it in an arrogant way (also, he only promised 1, not 7+). Lebron even said "once we get on the court, it's going to be easy." This effectively painted a target on their backs for every team that year, I truly think this event actually made it harder for them wherever they went. Plus, justifying the celebration they had because the Heat have it every year is BS, the particular one with Wade Lebron and Bosh was obviously different, just 5 seconds of watching it shows that. The reaction to it also is pretty indicative it just wasn't some normal fan event they hold every year. It was different. So what if he said people can wake up and go back to their lives? After all the shit he has been through why not. If at every turn people are rooting for you to lose, hiding behind "The Decision" when they are more upset you teamed up with Wade I'd be prickly too. People are downright pathetic and I'm glad he told people that life goes on whether he wins or loses. So what? I mean, if you don't see why what he said resonated so badly with fans then we really have nothing more to discuss. No other athlete has said stuff in his position like that. "After all the shit he has been through" lol please, lets not make Lebron into some sort of victim, he is a professional athlete that makes millions of dollars that made some really bad business and image decisions. That's it. He's not some persecuted cancer survivor, he's a public figure that can handle not being adored for a few years. As for fans being pathetic, we are talking about basketball as fans in a context of caring about the NBA. If you're going to say "get a life" for people rooting against Lebron, why follow sports at all? Why are we talking about this? Why do you feel the need to defend him? Why care about anything at all? We care about sports because its a joint experience. There are some athletes that fans love, there are some that they hate. Maybe the Heat and Lebron get hated on a little more than they should, but he deservedly got a ton of flak for this particular comment, and for "the Decision" in general. He deserved a lot of it. Obviously, everyone respects what he does on the court. But off it, he's not a very likable guy, and justifiably so. Frankly I hope he never wins a championship. In 10 years I'll probably see him differently, because by then if he hasn't won yet he'll have learned some humility, be humbled, and just a different guy. Then, everyone will probably like him as a person again and cheer for him to finally get a ring. | ||
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icystorage
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itkovian
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On May 23 2012 10:47 Ace wrote: When they asked Wade about it he mentioned the Miami Heat does that every year to open up the season for their fans. If LeBron wants to promise chips at an event for MIAMI HEAT fans then so be it - it doesn't concern you. He didn't say it during a nationally televised interview during a game, he didn't say it a press conference. Of all places to say it that was it. Get mad at him all you want but to try and pass judgement on something so silly as that is ridiculous when it wasn't even meant for you. So what if he said people can wake up and go back to their lives? After all the shit he has been through why not. If at every turn people are rooting for you to lose, hiding behind "The Decision" when they are more upset you teamed up with Wade I'd be prickly too. People are downright pathetic and I'm glad he told people that life goes on whether he wins or loses. I don't really get what this means. So people can say/do whatever they want as long as their words are directed somewhere else? That seems like kind of a weak argument. While I can see how it is frustrating that everyone band-wagon hates on Lebron, we should be allowed to root for, or against, who we want. It makes the NBA more entertaining when I can find teams to root against. I root against the Heat because I see them as the favored opponent, should I feel ashamed for that? | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 23 2012 10:59 icystorage wrote: watching "More than a game" documentary changed my perspective of LeBron. I realized he just wants to win. I watched it too, before "the Decision." He was so likable then, I was fan, I even have a "witness" shirt to prove it. I think he changed significantly though from his high school years to now, it'll be a decade soon, he's a different guy. I think though that in a few years he'll be a different guy again, having learned from the Decision and all this hate. On May 23 2012 11:00 itkovian wrote: I don't really get what this means. So people can say/do whatever they want as long as their words are directed somewhere else? That seems like kind of a weak argument. While I can see how it is frustrating that everyone band-wagon hates on Lebron, we should be allowed to root for, or against, who we want. It makes the NBA more entertaining when I can find teams to root against. I root against the Heat because I see them as the favored opponent, should I feel ashamed for that? Exactly, I think storylines are good and fans love to make them. Durant and the Thunder especially are seen as the "good guys" while the Heat are the bad, same for the Spurs if the finals comes to that. The truth of the matter probably lies somewhere in the middle, but never has there been a team like the Heat that has done so many things to make people hate them lol. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 23 2012 10:58 Hot_Bid wrote: He said it at a Q&A that was obviously going to be televised. These athletes are public figures and they know it. Tweeting something, saying something to a stadium full of people with cameras there, they know after years of being in the spotlight that these things get out. The argument that just because its a Miami fan event is laughable. Shaq did the same thing and didn't get any flak for it, because he had cred and didn't do it in an arrogant way (also, he only promised 1, not 7+). Plus, justifying the celebration they had because the Heat have it every year is BS, the particular one with Wade Lebron and Bosh was obviously different, just 5 seconds of watching it shows that. The reaction to it also is pretty indicative it just wasn't some normal fan event they hold every year. It was different. So what? I mean, if you don't see why what he said resonated so badly with fans then we really have nothing more to discuss. No other athlete has said stuff in his position like that. "After all the shit he has been through" lol please, lets not make Lebron into some sort of victim, he is a professional athlete that makes millions of dollars that made some really bad business and image decisions. That's it. He's not some persecuted cancer survivor, he's a public figure that can handle not being adored for a few years. As for fans being pathetic, we are talking about basketball as fans in a context of caring about the NBA. If you're going to say "get a life" for people rooting against Lebron, why follow sports at all? Why are we talking about this? Why do you feel the need to defend him? Why care about anything at all? We care about sports because its a joint experience. There are some athletes that fans love, there are some that they hate. Maybe the Heat and Lebron get hated on a little more than they should, but he deservedly got a ton of flak for this particular comment, and for "the Decision" in general. He deserved a lot of it. Obviously, everyone respects what he does on the court. But off it, he's not a very likable guy, and justifiably so. Frankly I hope he never wins a championship. In 10 years I'll probably see him differently, because by then if he hasn't won yet he'll have learned some humility, be humbled, and just a different guy. Then, everyone will probably like him as a person again and cheer for him to finally get a ring. If Shaq did it and didn't get any flak for it that should be reason enough to tell you people were only upset with it because it was LeBron James. It's as simple as that. Doesn't matter if it was televised - It is a Miami Heat event, in Miami, for Miami Heat fans. When Carmelo Anthony came to New York the entire city was screaming championship, at NY media days Stat was talking about winning a chip and guess what? No one gave a shit. Why? Because everyone wants to hear their best players talk about winning. Except if you're LeBron James. I guess making millions of dollars gives people an excuse to be dicks to you for an entire year. He's a pretty likeable guy off the court based on his mega popularity all over the world, but I guess making a decision that people don't like and telling people to get off your balls after taking their shit for an entire year is bad. I defend the guy because I see the stupidity of what fans do. Yea it's sports - but that doesn't mean we should just turn a blind eye to the nonsense that comes with it. | ||
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Telcontar
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
dat shoeless D Mike showing the other Mike how it's done trollol | ||
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
LBJ with a block....they never learn. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 23 2012 11:00 itkovian wrote: I don't really get what this means. So people can say/do whatever they want as long as their words are directed somewhere else? That seems like kind of a weak argument. While I can see how it is frustrating that everyone band-wagon hates on Lebron, we should be allowed to root for, or against, who we want. It makes the NBA more entertaining when I can find teams to root against. I root against the Heat because I see them as the favored opponent, should I feel ashamed for that? ??? How did you get to that conclusion? LeBron made a statement at a Miami Heat fan pep rally. It wasn't meant for non-Miami Heat fans. It would be like somebody getting mad at a Chinese diplomat making pro-China statements but being a US Citizen. It's got nothing to do with you. You can root for whoever or against whoever you want. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the downright stupid reasons people try to justify to hate a player or team. Like when I called out the guy on what it means that Miami "stacked the deck". We've had this same argument last year where people believe players shouldn't be able to team up together because they are in their primes. | ||
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Telcontar
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