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Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 02:39 GMT
#2661
Lance Stephenson on the floor
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 23 2012 02:39 GMT
#2662
On May 23 2012 11:32 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 11:24 slyboogie wrote:
On May 23 2012 11:15 Hot_Bid wrote:

If Lebron had just said hey Cleveland, "I tried, I really did, I couldn't do it, I'm sorry I couldn't bring a championship. It was a great experience representing you all. I'm going to move on now." Nobody would say shit. He'd literally have NO haters. Instead he went the way he did with the Decision. When athletes do dickish, arrogant things, fans hate them. I see this as a perfectly reasonable reaction from many fans with no attachment to the Heat, why is that so stupid again?


I think it's this stuff that's annoying. No one will ever say that. And the "fans" who demanded this sort of humility and debasement are trying to construct a silly narrative. The defeated son walks off into the sunset having failed his people. But they still love him for his grace and measure. The Decision was tone-deaf and a PR nightmare and Jim Gray is a cock. But hating Lebron James for an hour of television? Settle down, people were going to hate his decision regardless.

"No one will ever say that" is ridiculous, because athletes have said it when they leave teams (there are plenty of examples). Kevin Garnett isn't hated in Minnesota. If and when Steve Nash leaves Phoenix, I guarantee you he will say something similar.

If you think that people hate Lebron for "an hour of television" that's grossly oversimplifying the situation. People hate on Lebron for many reasons that are more than just the physical content of the press conference. The fact that Lebron and his handlers were completely shocked by the hate showed a lot about how out of touch with reality they were.

Maybe some people in Cleveland would have hated his decision no matter what he did. But a lot would've been ambivalent, like they were to Z. Certainly everyone outside Cleveland wouldn't have hated Lebron as much.


Kevin Garnett was traded. Which just adds to the stupidity of the narrative. Did they throw Kevin Garnett a parade for being the best player in the league for 2 years? Did they hold an hour long press conference in Minnesota to tell him that they were sorry for not giving him teammates better than Troy Murphy and Michael Olowakandi and Latrell Sprewell? No. I HATE THE TIMBERWOLVES!! But I don't because teams act dickish every day but I don't care.

No players in their prime do not tell a city that they failed them before running off on free agency. Really, I can't think of one prominent example in any sport. I'm being pretty serious here. Can you think of one?

I don't think that it was the hate-hour-television-show. I think the opposite. People would have hated Lebron for leaving Cleveland and going to Miami no matter how he did it. The Decision did not help, though. But I blame ESPN more than Lebron James.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 23 2012 02:40 GMT
#2663
very interesting turn for this thread. (sarcasm). i mean thats a lot of words for a discussion about why lbj is or is not arrogant.
dude bro.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 02:41:33
May 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#2664
Haha sorry for derailing, I'll stop talking about it now.

Just trying to explain why I really hope the Spurs or Thunder beat the Heat if they make the finals.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#2665
On May 23 2012 11:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
Haha sorry for derailing, I'll stop talking about it now.

agreed
/tangent.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 02:56:22
May 23 2012 02:44 GMT
#2666
yay that was a fun game to watch
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 23 2012 02:46 GMT
#2667
fools gold game for Miami. Media overreaction coming soon.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 23 2012 02:48 GMT
#2668
On May 23 2012 11:46 Ace wrote:
fools gold game for Miami. Media overreaction coming soon.

Ye, though this was a fun game to watch, LBJ and Wade gleeful that they didn't have to play extremely hard 4th quarters and put in back-to-back 40+ point playoff games anymore
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 02:49 GMT
#2669
Now thats ugly. Come on sexy dexy
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13418 Posts
May 23 2012 02:50 GMT
#2670
As questionable as the decision was (for what it's worth I think people overreacted to it massively) some forget that it did raise $2mill for charity. Some may question if the ends justify the means, but LeBron does cop a lot unwarranted crap. Some of it may have been brought on by his own actions, but I'd wager the vast majority is simple tall poppy syndrome.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 02:53 GMT
#2671
Great game. Great game. As Wade said. I hope they can match the energy Pacers are going to bring in the next game.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
May 23 2012 02:57 GMT
#2672
On May 23 2012 11:53 Bonzinator wrote:
Great game. Great game. As Wade said. I hope they can match the energy Pacers are going to bring in the next game.


Yeah, I bet the next game is going to be messy. Seeing how aggressive the series has already been thus far...
=)=
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#2673
On May 23 2012 11:57 itkovian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 11:53 Bonzinator wrote:
Great game. Great game. As Wade said. I hope they can match the energy Pacers are going to bring in the next game.


Yeah, I bet the next game is going to be messy. Seeing how aggressive the series has already been thus far...


I hope that Heat won't do something stupid, since it's obvious Pacers are going to try something.
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
May 23 2012 02:59 GMT
#2674
On May 23 2012 11:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
Haha sorry for derailing, I'll stop talking about it now.

Just trying to explain why I really hope the Spurs or Thunder beat the Heat if they make the finals.

^^ not disagreeing with you on that! Both teams deserve it imo.
dude bro.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 23 2012 03:07 GMT
#2675
On May 23 2012 11:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
Haha sorry for derailing, I'll stop talking about it now.

Just trying to explain why I really hope the Spurs or Thunder beat the Heat if they make the finals.
On the contrary, everything you said was right on point. It is either that or you could argue that he and the people around him are just stupid to not know how things worked in the real world for people in his privileged position. In a few years the dislike for Lebron will be gone, but the initial justification for it will remain in my eyes.

Just turned on game, woot!
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 23 2012 03:08 GMT
#2676
On May 23 2012 11:58 Bonzinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 11:57 itkovian wrote:
On May 23 2012 11:53 Bonzinator wrote:
Great game. Great game. As Wade said. I hope they can match the energy Pacers are going to bring in the next game.


Yeah, I bet the next game is going to be messy. Seeing how aggressive the series has already been thus far...


I hope that Heat won't do something stupid, since it's obvious Pacers are going to try something.

Granger gonna get more...'tough'
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Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 03:12 GMT
#2677
LOL. Sexy dexy winked after that elbow to Stephenson. Not good....i bet he will get 2-3 games ban.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 23 2012 03:18 GMT
#2678
more like 7 or 8
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bonzinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia862 Posts
May 23 2012 03:20 GMT
#2679
On May 23 2012 12:18 Ace wrote:
more like 7 or 8


Well its the HEAT!.......nah your right. Just a dumb thing to do.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 03:25:05
May 23 2012 03:23 GMT
#2680
Hot_bid

Your hate has become quite irrational.

LeBron has owned up to his mistakes and has moved on from it. It's quite pathetic to see "fans" 2 years later still butt hurt over it.

Go watch his 2012 MVP speech, how can you hate this guy? He's truly a "good guy" as much as you'd like to think otherwise. He makes mistakes, he's human.



LeBron is a once in a lifetime talent. You won't see this kind of basketball from a player in another 30-40 years. Watch the game and appreciate it instead of filling threads with trash about how much you hate a certain player. Get over it.
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