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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 14 2011 18:34 GMT
#41
On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote:
"We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."

Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.

Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae
sinistr
Profile Joined April 2010
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 18:35:12
December 14 2011 18:34 GMT
#42
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote:
I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.


This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.
Legace
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden342 Posts
December 14 2011 18:35 GMT
#43
I'm so incredibly confused by this, although I'm glad Mr. Chae didn't call him an amateur prize money hunter if this is true.
Trizzen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway74 Posts
December 14 2011 18:35 GMT
#44
You guys shouldn't forget that they are running a business that prides in providing adequate content for paying customers (and free alike). If they let players dictate how they throw games through half-arsed attempts there'd be no one watching, and GOM wouldn't be running the premier tournament dedicated pros would aim/dream on winning. They did the right thing by revoking the invite.

Westerners should just stick to foreign tournaments if they can't handle the consuquences of their actions.
Death is certain. Life is not.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 18:37:11
December 14 2011 18:36 GMT
#45
On December 15 2011 03:34 sinistr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote:
I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.


This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.


This is a completely different, yet very valid topic that probably warrants its own discussion and shouldn't override the primary topic at hand here.


Let's not derail this.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 14 2011 18:36 GMT
#46
I guess a lot of us slamming mr chae for calling him an amateur prize money hunter look pretty stupid right now. Glad this was cleared up :D
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#47
On December 15 2011 03:34 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote:
"We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."

Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.

Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae


He probably should not have used a metaphor. Judging by some responses in this thread, people are taking the metaphor literally.
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Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
December 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#48
Thanks for the more precise translation.
Make more anything.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
December 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#49
On December 15 2011 03:34 sinistr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote:
I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.


This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.

Because writing an opinion piece about EG's pro house, even if its an unpopular opinion, and someone posting blatantly wrong information is the same thing.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#50
Well, at least Naniwa got away relatively unscathed, if you compare it to what Gom did to Choya or what Slayers did to Violet before Gom could do anything. Kind of happy, kind of sad, but to put it in Nani's words: "It's okay.".
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 14 2011 18:37 GMT
#51
So what do we learn from here?

Before starting any drama, always examine the sources veeeery critically!
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
December 14 2011 18:38 GMT
#52
did anyone else think of ultimate avengers when that guy tells tony stark that theyre looking for Iron Man, not tony stark

yeah, i think Jon Favreau should direct GSL
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 18:39:26
December 14 2011 18:38 GMT
#53
On December 15 2011 03:33 Kira__ wrote:
How do people not get that last sentence? :D

There are lots of young or ignorant people in here... On TL, the less one knows, the more one talks.
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CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
December 14 2011 18:38 GMT
#54
On December 15 2011 03:34 sinistr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote:
I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.


This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.


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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
December 14 2011 18:39 GMT
#55
They say that pro gaming is about competition yet they seed lesser players straight into code S, thereby trivializing the hardships alot of the great code B/A korean players have endured. Keep in mind they make shit compared to top foreigners even though they're probably as good or better.

Before people comment about me being from sweden. I'm not a Naniwa fan, and i would say the same thing if the kicked player came from the US or China.
Gokum
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1 Post
December 14 2011 18:39 GMT
#56
And this is why GOM should have had a written press release in english ready when they announced it on the stream.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 14 2011 18:39 GMT
#57
What a surprise that the translation in the first place was incorrect or something similar.

Thanks though, but it's bit too late.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
December 14 2011 18:40 GMT
#58
On December 15 2011 03:07 PraetorianX wrote:
Did someone tell them Johan Lucchesi actually is Naniwa?

I mean, he is who he is. Maybe GomTV should be respectful of that instead of trying to mold him into their personally preferred type of pro-gamer persona. I'm not seeing other tournaments having this problem.

Naniwa is in their country, playing in their tournament. He chose not to abide by their standards and rules, and so he was punished. This is actually helpful to Naniwa. It's a wake-up call that he doesn't get to do whatever he wants.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
jib117
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
December 14 2011 18:40 GMT
#59
To the GSL --------->


User was warned for this post
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 14 2011 18:40 GMT
#60
On December 15 2011 03:37 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:34 Arceus wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote:
"We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."

Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.

Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae


He probably should not have used a metaphor. Judging by some responses in this thread, people are taking the metaphor literally.


It probably made more sense in Korean, you can't expect him to think about how people will translate it to English. The idea is pretty clear in any case.
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