On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote: "We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."
Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.
Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote: I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.
This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.
You guys shouldn't forget that they are running a business that prides in providing adequate content for paying customers (and free alike). If they let players dictate how they throw games through half-arsed attempts there'd be no one watching, and GOM wouldn't be running the premier tournament dedicated pros would aim/dream on winning. They did the right thing by revoking the invite.
Westerners should just stick to foreign tournaments if they can't handle the consuquences of their actions.
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote: I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.
This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.
This is a completely different, yet very valid topic that probably warrants its own discussion and shouldn't override the primary topic at hand here.
On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote: "We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."
Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.
Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae
He probably should not have used a metaphor. Judging by some responses in this thread, people are taking the metaphor literally.
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote: I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.
This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.
Because writing an opinion piece about EG's pro house, even if its an unpopular opinion, and someone posting blatantly wrong information is the same thing.
Well, at least Naniwa got away relatively unscathed, if you compare it to what Gom did to Choya or what Slayers did to Violet before Gom could do anything. Kind of happy, kind of sad, but to put it in Nani's words: "It's okay.".
On December 15 2011 03:20 CryingPoo wrote: I also have changed the post that I made and made a referral to your thread. Once again I am deeply sorry.
This is a gross error that cannot be remedied by a simple apology. Instances like this and the misjudgements made about EG in the Providence writeup by Heyoka underscore the significant detriment to TL caused by poor reporting/journalism. Without enforcing the commentary before it is published, or prefacing controversial posts with "These statements are unvalidated and unconfirmed", all information that comes out of TL can only be taken as a rumor and possibly, entirely untrue. Posters with a lack of judgement and discretion, like CryingPoo and heyoka only serve to bring down the credibility of TL as a reputable source of information for Starcraft 2.
I am very sorry. I have been doing translating for a bit now and my intention was never to hurt a reputation of TL or cause a disruptions. I fully understand your anger and I hope you could forgive me someday. I will try my best to be extremely careful in the future.
They say that pro gaming is about competition yet they seed lesser players straight into code S, thereby trivializing the hardships alot of the great code B/A korean players have endured. Keep in mind they make shit compared to top foreigners even though they're probably as good or better.
Before people comment about me being from sweden. I'm not a Naniwa fan, and i would say the same thing if the kicked player came from the US or China.
On December 15 2011 03:07 PraetorianX wrote: Did someone tell them Johan Lucchesi actually is Naniwa?
I mean, he is who he is. Maybe GomTV should be respectful of that instead of trying to mold him into their personally preferred type of pro-gamer persona. I'm not seeing other tournaments having this problem.
Naniwa is in their country, playing in their tournament. He chose not to abide by their standards and rules, and so he was punished. This is actually helpful to Naniwa. It's a wake-up call that he doesn't get to do whatever he wants.
On December 15 2011 03:29 labbe wrote: "We gave the seed to Quantic Gaming's protoss pro-gamer NaNiwa, not to Johan Lucchesi from Sweden, who plays the game well."
Newsflash Mr. Chae: That's the same person.
Mr. Chae pulling some deep metaphor. He expected Naniwa to be a professional gamer but he acted like a kid himself. Kid's fault should be punished hard you know. Is it that hard to comprehend ? GJ for keep it classy Mr Chae
He probably should not have used a metaphor. Judging by some responses in this thread, people are taking the metaphor literally.
It probably made more sense in Korean, you can't expect him to think about how people will translate it to English. The idea is pretty clear in any case.
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