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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:12 CryingPoo wrote: Sorry about misinforming. The quote was from a friend of mine who watched it in Korea which I shouldn't have posted if I wasn't sure about the source. Thank you for your contribution. Oh ahahahha this is officially hilarious Can't believe so many posts wasted haahahahaha | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:15 OpticalShot wrote: Uh I'll give it a shot at clarifying the last statement. "The person we gave the [Code S] seed to was Quintic Gaming's Protoss progamer Naniwa, not 'pretty good gamer from Sweden called Johan Lucchesi'." Well, that's basically what was said in the OP, nevermind lol. This makes a great deal of sense, it makes way more sense then the last thread. I understand what Mr. Chae is trying to communicate here, they want him to perform at the progamer standard, awesome. OMG that last thread -_- | ||
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CraZyWayne
Germany357 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:45 CryingPoo wrote: : ( I have requested the change.. hope it happens soon enough. Thank you for your understanding.. I never meant to bring a wrong news as I also believed that was what happened.. I have been bit offensive in the last couple of days as I was abused by people who thought I 'wrote' the article from Thisisgame, when I only translated... I guess I was bit over myself and was also offensive to this OP who could make a real contribution to this situation.. Once again I am deeply sorry.. I am also emailing Mr.Chae to explain what I did.. As I understand these things, the mods prefer that you just create a new account at that point, specially if you have quite few posts as you do. (not sure though, wait for info from mods.) You will lose 177 posts, but maybe that is not the end of the world. Also you will not be associated to this event, which may be convenient.  | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:25 Xalorian wrote: That was ironic. An example of what everyone is doing with every quote, twisting fact to fit their opinion, again and again until everyone is confused. My bad, I forgot that was included in Mr. Chae's remarks. Back to what Mr. Chae said "We gave the seed..." This is in contrast to something like "NaNiwa won the seed..." Earlier in the broadcast, it was mentioned that Idra/NaNiwa were going to receive 2 Code S seeds but there has been a change and Idra/Sen will receive the seed. So it seems reasonable that he meant to say "we were going to give the seed..." But it's a live broadcast and he isn't reading from a script so thing like this happens. The central point was 1) It was GOM giving the seed 2) They changed their plan because of so on and so on. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:51 labbe wrote: They are revoking Naniwa's invites on arguments based on morality and honor, and at the same time giving a seed to Idra, a player that's very famous for insulting his opponents when he loses. Does anyone else think this is a bit wierd? They ignored Naniwa's past history. Idra never bm'd in their tournament or the 2 years he spent in Korea. | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
I don't want this whole Korean vs. Foreigner expectations thing to be such a big deal, because I really love the direction GOM has taken their format and think that the more top level (cough STEPHANO) foreigners that get to go into that talent pool the better we will all be for it. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:51 labbe wrote: They are revoking Naniwa's invites on arguments based on morality and honor, and at the same time giving a seed to Idra, a player that's very famous for insulting his opponents when he loses. Does anyone else think this is a bit wierd? IdrA already showed that he is able to live in korea and do fine. He played for long in CJ and even competed in the GSL. If anything, IdrA changed for the better. | ||
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Delicious Insanity
Belgium841 Posts
If you have a global tournament, try and find a middle road. Don't enforce the punishment that's normal for 1 of the cultures involved. | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:46 baoluvboa wrote: There was no contractual agreement. MLG/GSL did not extend to 2012 >.< Naniwa did not have a spot, was only a candidate due to his performance. But this is not the purpose of this thread. In that case they forgot to tell both MLG and the rest of the world. Check out this guys compilation of MLG-quotes saying Naniwa won a code S-seed: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nc8g6/naniwa_loses_code_s_spot/c37zdqg | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
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Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
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ePLocust
United States587 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:14 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I really hope it is true that they did not call him an amateur prize money hunter. Would like to see this sourced some more so that we can understand what happened. With the last part of the quote he probably means they invited and (still) respect Naniwa for his game, and that the person behind that gamer did the things he did. Some deep shit, maybe some got lost in translation there too. That's messed up.. gonna discuss what we want to do with these topics. Although he didn't straight up say it. Mr. Chae basically called him an amatuer that plays the game for money just in not such a blatant + Show Spoiler + can i say naniwaesque | ||
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Trsjnica
United States477 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:51 labbe wrote: They are revoking Naniwa's invites on arguments based on morality and honor, and at the same time giving a seed to Idra, a player that's very famous for insulting his opponents when he loses. Does anyone else think this is a bit wierd? Not really. They revoked (or just didn't give to begin with) Naniwa's seed based upon one specific instance of poor conduct that the GSL believed was disresectful to their league, their sponsors, and their fans. Further, Idra's BM is much further past, and not really against the GSL itself. Further past matters here because Naniwa isn't being banned from GSL forever, but rather, merely not being seeded into Code S this season. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:52 Jampackedeon wrote: This whole thing is way out of proportion, I hope Mr. Chae releases a statement to clear things up. I think they were in their rights to punish Naniwa, but it seems to me that he didn't really violate anything in terms of my personal viewing expectations. I don't want this whole Korean vs. Foreigner expectations thing to be such a big deal, because I really love the direction GOM has taken their format and think that the more top level (cough STEPHANO) foreigners that get to go into that talent pool the better we will all be for it. I imagine Stephano was offered a spot before Sen, maybe even before Idra, and rejected it. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:07 PraetorianX wrote: Did someone tell them Johan Lucchesi actually is Naniwa? I mean, he is who he is. Maybe GomTV should be respectful of that instead of trying to mold him into their personally preferred type of pro-gamer persona. I'm not seeing other tournaments having this problem. He needs to respect the people around him while he's working, is it really that much to ask? | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:53 TheBanana wrote: In that case they forgot to tell both MLG and the rest of the world. Check out this guys compilation of MLG-quotes saying Naniwa won a code S-seed: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nc8g6/naniwa_loses_code_s_spot/c37zdqg Is it that hard to realize that it was a mis communication and GSL/MLG had a misunderstanding? Stop trying to portray GOM in a negative manner. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:51 labbe wrote: They are revoking Naniwa's invites on arguments based on morality and honor, and at the same time giving a seed to Idra, a player that's very famous for insulting his opponents when he loses. Does anyone else think this is a bit wierd? No I don't. IdrA has played in Korea for SC1. IdrA has played in Korea in the GSL for SC2. He knows the culture and knows how to respect it. IdrA, while bad manner online, is never BM in the GSL. Why? Because it is NOT A GAME in Korea. It is a professional sport and IdrA is smart enough to know you don't act like a kid when people expect you to be a grown man. | ||
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