EPTCircumcision: The Elephant in the Hospital. - Page 5
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ICarrotU
United States254 Posts
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Ympulse
United States287 Posts
Trolling aside, there are more arguments against than for, but I personally think that it shouldn't be an issue at all. Either way you're going to have to deal with possible enablers for an inferiority complex all through childhood and adolescence, and the state of your penis is not going to have anything to do with any of that. And, as shown by an above poster, there are just as many objective reasons for as there are for against. 50 cents one way, half a dollar the other. TL;DR: Quit finding things to draw lines in the sand over | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:08 gds wrote: Since i cut my feet it doesnt stink anymore. ahahahahah, I laughed hard on this one. On a side note, I'm 100% sure circumcised penises have less sensitivity in the glan, I just could never wear a underwear in direct contact with my glan's skin. I tried for the experience and I almost cried after 3 minutes. Less sensitive means more stamina on bed, wich is good for your ego, but you have to stop being egoist and look at the statistics that shows that women tends to feel that the sexual act is more painful (and logically so, the clitoris and vagina are VERY sensitive). One the other hand I have to truly agree about the fact that it prevents Phimosis and Smegma. I myself had Phimosis when I was 8, they didn't circumcised me but it I still remember the hurt. People getting circumcised while they were baby and claim that it doesn't hurt because they don't have memory of it are quite blind folded... Of course you won't have memories of that... Edit : All the circumcised guys posting here doesn't seem to be bothered by it so I don't really see the big deal. In the other hand we have to be carefull on what we do on babies and young children and maybe waiting for the majority before getting into this type of "prehemptive" procedures. | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
FGM is used to make sure that a woman can never have enjoyment from sex and is almost always done with malicious intent in mind. Circumcision is done because of possible health benefits and less complications. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:12 Harrow wrote: Circumcised people in this thread seem to think that it's some kind of inconvenient nightmare to clean yourself when you're not circumcised. It's really, really not. It's also baffling to me that "it looks better" is actually an argument. What other kinds of cosmetic surgery do we perform on babies? And "I don't remember it" doesn't work for me either. I mean, I could punch ten babies in the face and none of them would remember it when they grew up. Still think I'd be arrested for punching babies in the face for no reason. But yeah, AIDS prevention in Africa is a much better reason for circumcision. Only problem is that it's nearly impossible to convince any fraction of the population to use condoms, never mind perform penis surgery on their newborn babies. Pretty much what this guy said. Everyone arguing for this is circumcised people who deosn't care about facts. Just because you're used to it and fine like that doesn't make it acceptable. Some people there are lol.... | ||
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DisneylandSC
Netherlands435 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:13 Bobanator wrote: I find it funny that many people are saying its done with out the babies consent. No duh, its a baby, the parents have the power to give consent to a child under 18. By that logic you cant start school until 18, because you're a minor and cant give consent, and your parents cant give consent either. You can drop out of school once you reached 18 / 21. Try getting uncircumcised. Also you seem to be under the impression that apparently parents are allowed to do anything with and to their children untill they reach 18 / 21, no matter how stupid or dangerous. Clearly this is not the case, almost any modern 1st world country will remove a child from your care if you are deemed unfit to raise it or if it is needed to protect the child. | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:02 Stropheum wrote: 1: I don't remember my circumcision 2: I'm glad i'm circumcised 3: It's done in a humane way 4: It's more beneficial than having nothing done, easier to maintain good hygiene etc. 5: My penis is still plenty sensitive, and if anything it makes guys last longer during sex, sooooo the sensitivity argument is a little invalid. Pretty much what I'd say. And @ inferiority complex? Lol wtf, I doubt there's almost a single circumcised guy who feels that way. If anything, it would be the other way around, just based on being the only guy around who hadn't had it done. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:07 Enki wrote: Dunno how i feel about it personally. I was circumsized at birth so I didn't have a choice, but I have grown to like it. Its alot easier to keep clean, etc. There are alot of advantages to being circumsized I dont know why people say this. Your dick should be clean no matter what. It's not like you'll get dust on your dick out of nowhere. | ||
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UisTehSux
United States693 Posts
I think any discussion is useless. If you get it then fine, if not, who cares? | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On September 09 2011 07:51 Roe wrote: He actually said So, is that not something from the opposite side? He dismisses that in its entirety. One in a thousand is still 3 million people worldwide, but it talks down the point by saying "(perhaps)" and "a tiny amount." The OP is ridiculously biased. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:02 Stropheum wrote: 1: I don't remember my circumcision 2: I'm glad i'm circumcised 3: It's done in a humane way 4: It's more beneficial than having nothing done, easier to maintain good hygiene etc. 5: My penis is still plenty sensitive, and if anything it makes guys last longer during sex, sooooo the sensitivity argument is a little invalid. 1.Doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell. 2.How would you know any different if you have been that way your whole life? 3.What's humane and what is not is pretty subjective a lot of times. 4.There's no clear evidence as to whether it is more of less beneficial from having nothing done and besides I don't even get the hygiene argument.If you maintain a good degree of personal hygiene than it doesn't really matter if you are clipped or not. 5.This is true.Only complaint I ever heard from men is that they are TOO sensitive and never the opposite.Being circumcised helps you last longer in bed and doesn't hinder you in any way that i can imagine in the long run during sex. I'm not against circumcision.I am against having it done to baby's due to being born in a family of certain religion or belief,same as I have a problem with myself being baptised while I was a baby, but that's just my view. As far as I am concerned,circumcision is mostly a cosmetic procedure(there might be some health benefits but I'm really skeptical about those) and shouldn't be done to minors,even with consent of the parents or if they even demand it. The OP is pretty bias tho with lack of information and sources. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
Are you kidding me? Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
I don't think the conversation really needs to happen. Feels like a big inferiority complex on both sides of the argument. | ||
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Mr. Black
United States470 Posts
There are so many causes to take up in the world. You might as well devote your efforts to preventing Latinos from piercing their baby girls' ears, or the mindless mutilation of hair and fingernails that happens everyday. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:17 Hakker wrote: Also comparing female genital mutilation and circumcision in the same thread is ridiculous. They're done for completely different reasons and is 2000x more traumatic for a female than a male. FGM is used to make sure that a woman can never have enjoyment from sex and is almost always done with malicious intent in mind. Circumcision is done because of possible health benefits and less complications. You should do more research on FGM. The term covers a wide range of procedures including those which are almost directly analogous to male circumcision. As for them being done for "completely different reasons"... rofl, no Proponents of FGM and male circumcision justify their preferred form of genital mutilation in exactly the same ways. | ||
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
It just seems like the right answer is "personal preference," except that since we do it to infants, they don't really have much of a say lol. | ||
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