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On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.
The part about laughing is true from the other end as well. It all depends on where you live. If its common to have a circumcision made in the country you are from, of course that becomes the norm, and the other way around
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On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!
It's the politically correct term for "female genital mutilation", I believe.
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On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!
They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.
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I agree with ToasteR_ I think this is a stupid argument, and there are plenty of bigger "Elephants in the Hospital" than the circumcision debate, and plenty of other instances in any society of "mutilation" for the sake of the culture.
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Zurich15358 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:26 phosphorylation wrote:
Good luck trying to convince the other side that his penis is in an inferior form, on the internet no less.
Hahahaha well spoken Sir.
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On September 09 2011 08:31 CarniX wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:23 Mr. Black wrote:
Also, Diks, if you don't have a memory of a pain, then why does it matter?. So by this logic, it's ok to drug girls and rape them, since they wont remeber it anyway?
the logic is strong with this one.
Regarding the OP, I'd like to have something to take away from this thread but I can't take anything so biased seriously. Regarding the study illustrating female dissatisfaction with circumcised dicks, I'd note that the study was conducted in Denmark, where probably only 5% of men are circumcised. The minority always gets a bad rap.
The ones who are trying to regrow a foreskin seem like they are the insecure ones... since i guess we are going all psychology up in this bitch
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I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.
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On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.
See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.
I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
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Where is the reference for the statistics ?
I love graphs but I want medical sources.
On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well. See, this is something I find absolutely retarded. I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
On this note I think most vaginas look abhorrent... I don't mind them thinking that but then again I'm not circumsized but my foreskin isn't super long nor does it cover the whole of my penis so meh.
Also don't get if it's so hard to pull it back during sex I mean gheez.
On September 09 2011 08:36 Sorrows wrote:
I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.
That made me sad 
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On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?! They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.
Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.
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On September 09 2011 08:23 Destro wrote:
why do you care so much about other people's penises? keep your mind out of other people's pants..
I don't think the conversation really needs to happen. Feels like a big inferiority complex on both sides of the argument.
To be fair, you could tell that to the parents that are pro circumcision, why do they care so much about their kid's penis that he doesn't even get a say in it?
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On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?! They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia. Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.
Well they torture animals because it's "right" whilst even the most rabid orthodox jew doesn't follow half of the 600+ ways a jew should according to the old testament so meh.
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I actually came in here expecting to hear about circumsiced elephants...
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On September 09 2011 08:36 Sorrows wrote:
I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.
I was waiting for someone who actually know what he's talking about. As an uncircumcised man I can only imagine how it would feel like and circumcised men can only imagine the differences.
The step father of my girlfriend also got circumcised last year because of medical reasons. I never really had the chance to ask him how he felt as he seemed quite depressed after the chirurgical intervention.
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"...a dick that isn't callused and scarred"
Using scare tactics is only OK when you're using it to justify your point of view, I see. Hypocrisy has clearly blinded the author.
There is no attempt to be impartial whatsoever, and I do not see why it has been left open.
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On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well. See, this is something I find absolutely retarded. I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
It's a cultural thing.I remember watching some random episode of sex&the city with my girlfriend on tv and she laughed pretty hard when the penis argument came up,because she didn't get what the fuss was all about.They acted as if the dude that was uncircumcised had an STD or something.
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On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well. See, this is something I find absolutely retarded. I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
I think many people from places where circumcision is the norm are incredibly ignorant about uncut penises, they more than likely don't even know you retract the foreskin and the penis looks almost the exact same when erect
On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?! They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia. Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.
Good luck convincing religious people of a lot of things :p
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United States5162 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well. See, this is something I find absolutely retarded. I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
It's a personal preference, and given that people usually prefer things that they're familiar with, it only makes sense that girls who've only seen circumcised penises would prefer them.
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On September 09 2011 08:40 Krehlmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!
Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.
And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis. Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely. How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?! They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia. Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia. Well they torture animals because it's "right" whilst even the most rabid orthodox jew doesn't follow half of the 600+ ways a jew should according to the old testament so meh.
Killing Kosher implies that the animal experiences as little pain as possible. Where the fuck did you get that Jews torture animals? Are you trolling? What the fuck kind of anti-semitic shit is that? And circumcision is actually kind of an important part of the Jewish religion. Like it's not just another random law in the bible. It's kind of a symbol of the whole 'covenant' thing.
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