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Interloper
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden217 Posts
September 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#121
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


The part about laughing is true from the other end as well. It all depends on where you live. If its common to have a circumcision made in the country you are from, of course that becomes the norm, and the other way around
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44256 Posts
September 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#122
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


It's the politically correct term for "female genital mutilation", I believe.
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Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
September 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#123
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.
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kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
September 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#124
I agree with ToasteR_ I think this is a stupid argument, and there are plenty of bigger "Elephants in the Hospital" than the circumcision debate, and plenty of other instances in any society of "mutilation" for the sake of the culture.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
September 08 2011 23:34 GMT
#125
On September 09 2011 08:26 phosphorylation wrote:
Good luck trying to convince the other side that his penis is in an inferior form, on the internet no less.

Hahahaha well spoken Sir.
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:45:01
September 08 2011 23:34 GMT
#126
On September 09 2011 08:31 CarniX wrote:
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On September 09 2011 08:23 Mr. Black wrote:
Also, Diks, if you don't have a memory of a pain, then why does it matter?.


So by this logic, it's ok to drug girls and rape them, since they wont remeber it anyway?


the logic is strong with this one.

Regarding the OP, I'd like to have something to take away from this thread but I can't take anything so biased seriously. Regarding the study illustrating female dissatisfaction with circumcised dicks, I'd note that the study was conducted in Denmark, where probably only 5% of men are circumcised. The minority always gets a bad rap.

The ones who are trying to regrow a foreskin seem like they are the insecure ones... since i guess we are going all psychology up in this bitch
Sorrows
Profile Joined August 2010
United States27 Posts
September 08 2011 23:36 GMT
#127
I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 08 2011 23:36 GMT
#128
On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.

See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.

I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?
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Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:39:48
September 08 2011 23:37 GMT
#129
Where is the reference for the statistics ?

I love graphs but I want medical sources.

On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.

See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.

I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?

On this note I think most vaginas look abhorrent... I don't mind them thinking that but then again I'm not circumsized but my foreskin isn't super long nor does it cover the whole of my penis so meh.

Also don't get if it's so hard to pull it back during sex I mean gheez.


On September 09 2011 08:36 Sorrows wrote:
I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.

That made me sad
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:42:24
September 08 2011 23:38 GMT
#130
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
September 08 2011 23:39 GMT
#131
On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.


Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
September 08 2011 23:40 GMT
#132
On September 09 2011 08:23 Destro wrote:
why do you care so much about other people's penises? keep your mind out of other people's pants..

I don't think the conversation really needs to happen. Feels like a big inferiority complex on both sides of the argument.


To be fair, you could tell that to the parents that are pro circumcision, why do they care so much about their kid's penis that he doesn't even get a say in it?
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
September 08 2011 23:40 GMT
#133
On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.


Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.

Well they torture animals because it's "right" whilst even the most rabid orthodox jew doesn't follow half of the 600+ ways a jew should according to the old testament so meh.
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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
September 08 2011 23:41 GMT
#134
I actually came in here expecting to hear about circumsiced elephants...
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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
September 08 2011 23:41 GMT
#135
On September 09 2011 08:36 Sorrows wrote:
I was circumcised a couple years ago at age 24 and have had sex both before and after. If I ever have a son he will not be getting circumcised at birth. If he wants to later, that's his choice. If I could go back to being uncircumcised, I would.


I was waiting for someone who actually know what he's talking about. As an uncircumcised man I can only imagine how it would feel like and circumcised men can only imagine the differences.
The step father of my girlfriend also got circumcised last year because of medical reasons. I never really had the chance to ask him how he felt as he seemed quite depressed after the chirurgical intervention.
Larias
Profile Joined July 2011
United States75 Posts
September 08 2011 23:41 GMT
#136
"...a dick that isn't callused and scarred"

Using scare tactics is only OK when you're using it to justify your point of view, I see. Hypocrisy has clearly blinded the author.

There is no attempt to be impartial whatsoever, and I do not see why it has been left open.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:43:01
September 08 2011 23:41 GMT
#137
On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.

See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.

I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?


It's a cultural thing.I remember watching some random episode of sex&the city with my girlfriend on tv and she laughed pretty hard when the penis argument came up,because she didn't get what the fuss was all about.They acted as if the dude that was uncircumcised had an STD or something.
Cackle™
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:42:01
September 08 2011 23:41 GMT
#138
On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.

See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.

I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?

I think many people from places where circumcision is the norm are incredibly ignorant about uncut penises, they more than likely don't even know you retract the foreskin and the penis looks almost the exact same when erect

On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.


Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.


Good luck convincing religious people of a lot of things :p
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
September 08 2011 23:42 GMT
#139
On September 09 2011 08:36 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:21 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Have you seen an uncircumcised penis? No thanks. My wife wants to add no thanks as well.

See, this is something I find absolutely retarded.

I was watching an american documentary about circumcision couple of years ago, and they showed a group of women discussing the whole thing. What they said was that they prefered the look of a circumcised penis, and several of them actually said straight out that they thought uncircumcised penises were gross and nasty. What the hell? Like, I don't even know what to say; the natural look of the penis is gross?


It's a personal preference, and given that people usually prefer things that they're familiar with, it only makes sense that girls who've only seen circumcised penises would prefer them.
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 23:46:12
September 08 2011 23:44 GMT
#140
On September 09 2011 08:40 Krehlmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 08:39 DoubleReed wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:33 Sanctimonius wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:30 DoubleReed wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:29 Hakker wrote:
On September 09 2011 08:27 DoubleReed wrote:
What is female circumcision?! Seriously, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "out little girls" and then say "whether it's a girl or a boy." What?!

Anyway, circumcision is a fundamental part of the Jewish religion. There is only one medical procedure described in the bible and that is circumcision. It is almost entirely a cosmetic procedure. Stop making a big deal out of it.

And where did you get that circumcised men feel inferiority? If anything, it makes it look larger and more robust. In fact, I've heard the opposite. Hell, I know a guy who's girlfriend actually broke out into laughter because she'd never seen an uncircumcised penis before, so he actually asked his mom if he could get circumcised. I have yet to hear of a woman who preferred an uncircumcised penis.


Removing the clitoris, more extreme measures are stitching the vagina shut entirely.


How is that CIRCUMCISION? Circumcision means excising AROUND something. Do people really call that circumcision?!


They look at is as genital mutilation, which is what male circumcision is, basically. I'm not saying the two are the same scale of damage, not by a long shot, but both involve medically scarring genitalia.


Well good luck convincing jews that they aren't allowed to circumcise their sons. Or that their parents 'scarred' their genitalia.

Well they torture animals because it's "right" whilst even the most rabid orthodox jew doesn't follow half of the 600+ ways a jew should according to the old testament so meh.


Killing Kosher implies that the animal experiences as little pain as possible. Where the fuck did you get that Jews torture animals? Are you trolling? What the fuck kind of anti-semitic shit is that? And circumcision is actually kind of an important part of the Jewish religion. Like it's not just another random law in the bible. It's kind of a symbol of the whole 'covenant' thing.
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