Sexual dissatisfaction? Do you know sex just isn't about how you're feeling, but the woman?
Every single girl I've been with has said they prefer circumcised to not. (aka cut vs uncut)
Plus, based on what my uncircumcised friends tell me, they don't last near as long as circumcised males do. And I don't know about others, but the longer you last, the better your woman feels, the more erotic it gets = more sexual satisfaction.
This is purely based on my own personal experiences, but I don't like how biased it seems at how you're trying to convince everyone how terrible circumcision is.

Roe

Canada6002 Posts

September 08 2011 22:51 GMT

#22

On September 09 2011 07:46 Craton wrote:
Why would you count both sides of a playing card? That's such a weird comparison -- it seems heavily slanted to bias the reader into making it think it's 2x the amount.

In fact, the entire OP is entirely one-sided facts and information. I can't take any of it seriously because I have no idea what's blatantly misleading and what's actual truth because you only provide information about one side of the argument and completely dismiss the opposite side.

He actually said

The claim that circumcision protects against HIV is based on 5,400 circumcisions protecting (perhaps) just 73 men. This is protecting a tiny amount of 0.014% of all circumcised men. (source from The Intactivism Pages)

So, is that not something from the opposite side?

Saechiis

Netherlands4989 Posts

September 08 2011 22:52 GMT

#23

So it's actually NOT a good idea to have parts of your body cut off? Who knew

SoLaR[i.C]

United States2969 Posts

September 08 2011 22:52 GMT

#24

It's an antiquated ritual and, like you mentioned, performed for the sake of conformity more than anything else.

I have read however, that it's easier to keep a circumsized penis clean and infection free as there are simply less folds of skin for bacteria and such to get trapped in. It's more difficult to get HIV and other STDs with a circumsized penis as well. Of course, with proper cleaning and safe sex, this is a null point.

I've been contemplating what I would do if I have a son. I think circumcision a silly thing overall, but it's also hard to underestimate the psychological stress a teen might have to endure from the constant teasing of his peers

It's an annoying debate that shouldn't have to be held. Seems to be the case with lots of things that have been founded in religion.

EDIT: Thinking more about this has lead me to believe that I will let my child decide for himself. Seems like a logical and perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Lomak

United States311 Posts

September 08 2011 22:52 GMT

#25

Had to do a double take once you got to rambling about how circumcised people have some inferiority complex so that's why they in turn circumcise their own children. There is a lot of assumptions being made there with a whole lot of 'no evidence' to support it. Myself being a circumcised male I have never had an issue with sexual arousal or performance. Otherwise good post, very informative.

Sinensis

United States2513 Posts

September 08 2011 22:53 GMT

#26

I am glad I am circumcised. It makes my penis prettier. When I want to feel more I just have more intense intercourse, intercourse that would probably tear an overabundance of foreskin.

Atila

Cuba122 Posts

September 08 2011 22:53 GMT

#27

On September 09 2011 07:50 SpearWrit wrote:
You fail to mention that uncircumcised babies also run the risk of Phimosis, where the foreskin cannot be retracted, blocking the urethra.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

Following your logic all women should cut off their breasts to eliminate breast cancer

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

September 08 2011 22:53 GMT

#28

You're going to have to bring some sources that aren't from a website called Intact avism if you want an actual discussion. As it stands you seem to care a hundredfold more about my circumcision than I do, your evidence that it was traumatic and painful to me as a child is.. well like everyone has said- I can't remember it. Must not be that bad; and finally I'm completely satisfied with the functionality of the procedure.

Soo yeah... come back with objective sources OR worry about whats in your pants and not mine?

Kojak21

Canada1104 Posts

September 08 2011 22:54 GMT

#29

you never see an uncircumcised penis in porn, cause it doesnt look as good

Percutio

United States1672 Posts

September 08 2011 22:55 GMT

#30

Do not straw man me on this

I might have a weird view, but there are cultural traditions that are pretty hard to break. Even if you label it as genital mutilation and spout a million points about how cruel, unethical, and unfair it is, I suspect that those who don't already have a fault with circumcision are going to roll their eyes. I'm American and it is so extremely common and acceptable that literally no one I've ever met has complained about it or even at least talked about it. So if you wonder why I think this way it is because that is all I ever encounter.

As a circumcised man I honestly can't tell you if I'm missing some great deal of life and it makes no difference to me. My parents made a decision that they felt was right and it hasn't hurt me yet, at least in a real way and not a theoretical one. From the reverse viewpoint would I feel lucky if I wasn't uncircumcised or would I feel different in a bad way? Honestly I wouldn't be able to tell you and I don't care as it doesn't affect me at all.

Maybe if I actually consciously knew the feeling of pulling back some skin to clean myself or urinate and how that skin was "sexually sensitive" then I would have a different opinion. Or I might envy people that don't deal with that every day. The point is it doesn't matter a damn because that decision was made for me by the best two possible people.

Thanks Mom and Dad.

Interloper

Sweden217 Posts

September 08 2011 22:56 GMT

#31

Pretty hard to have any kind of discussion around this since no one knows boths sides of it. Oh well, my view on it is that it seems unnecessary, thats all...

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

September 08 2011 22:56 GMT

#32

--- Nuked ---

SoLaR[i.C]

United States2969 Posts

September 08 2011 22:57 GMT

#33

On September 09 2011 07:54 Kojak21 wrote:
you never see an uncircumcised penis in porn, cause it doesnt look as good

Manuel Ferrara, winner of multiple AVN and XRCO awards, is uncircumcised. Tons of other Euro pornstars too.

You clearly don't watch enough porn.

HAUER

Denmark208 Posts

September 08 2011 22:57 GMT

#34

I feel sorry for the poor boys who get circumcised. It's bat shit insane.

Derez

Netherlands6068 Posts

September 08 2011 22:57 GMT

#35

Your sources are absolutely terrible and horribly biased, go look at randomized, controlled HIV trials in Africa for starters. This thread should be closed.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

September 08 2011 22:57 GMT

#36

On September 09 2011 07:54 Kojak21 wrote:
you never see an uncircumcised penis in porn, cause it doesnt look as good

Pretty sure this isn't true at all..

TimmyMac

Canada499 Posts

September 08 2011 22:57 GMT

#37

All your sources are from anti-circumcision propaganda... don't present this as 'the whole picture'.

Not that I care one way or another. Just note that your 'research' isn't exactly comprehensive.

brain_

United States812 Posts

September 08 2011 22:58 GMT

#38

I'll probably have my sons circumcised, not because it is good, but because women are cruel and irrational beings. I wish we lived in a world where that weren't the case.

gds

Iceland1391 Posts

September 08 2011 22:58 GMT

#39

On September 09 2011 07:49 samaNo4 wrote:
Is this a joke?

I was circumcised when I was a baby because I had problems in the penis and I had surgery. I have no "inferiority feeling" (why would I anyways), and I feel pretty good when I'm with a girl.

How do you know you dont have "inferiority feelings"?

Lomak

United States311 Posts

September 08 2011 22:59 GMT

#40

On September 09 2011 07:56 Interloper wrote:
Pretty hard to have any kind of discussion around this since no one knows boths sides of it. Oh well, my view on it is that it seems unnecessary, thats all...

Now that you say this someone will pop in the thread claiming to have had a botched circumcision, and now half their penis is , and half isn't. He will set the record straight =)