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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
May 11 2004 21:26 GMT
#81
Michael Johnson.... we are talking about athletes here
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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
May 11 2004 21:29 GMT
#82
Kasparov, Maradonna, Pele??? never heard of them, except maybe mardonna dont know what sport though...
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
May 11 2004 21:39 GMT
#83
Of course Michael Jordan+_+
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
May 11 2004 21:40 GMT
#84
okay, ali isn't a bad suggestion.

only one who could possibly rival pele or beckham.
everyone else aren't close.

but I mean for fucks sake, beckham went on a promote himself tour across asia. that's where most people are.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-11 21:44:08
May 11 2004 21:43 GMT
#85
How u cannot recognise jordan is beyond belief drone -___-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28667 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-11 21:49:48
May 11 2004 21:49 GMT
#86
I know damn well who jordan is..? but basketball does not have CLOSE to the same following football does worldwide, thus the best basketball player through all time will obviously not have the same recognition the best football player through all time does. or the most famous one.

we're not talking most well known athlete in europe/north america. (I think jordan could probably end up beating pele/beckham then, because everyone in north america knows him and almost everyone in europe knows him while the amount of people in north america who don't know of pele/beckham is probably larger. )

but europe/north america makes up a very small portion of the *world's* population. why would some 10 year old african kid who never watched tv however has played football for his entire life know of jordan? football is the only sport played worldwide..
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LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
May 11 2004 22:00 GMT
#87
Dunno if someone wrote this, but some of the athletics like Carl Lewis should be mentioned!
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-11 22:13:03
May 11 2004 22:11 GMT
#88
On May 12 2004 06:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I know damn well who jordan is..? but basketball does not have CLOSE to the same following football does worldwide, thus the best basketball player through all time will obviously not have the same recognition the best football player through all time does. or the most famous one.

we're not talking most well known athlete in europe/north america. (I think jordan could probably end up beating pele/beckham then, because everyone in north america knows him and almost everyone in europe knows him while the amount of people in north america who don't know of pele/beckham is probably larger. )

but europe/north america makes up a very small portion of the *world's* population. why would some 10 year old african kid who never watched tv however has played football for his entire life know of jordan? football is the only sport played worldwide..


Behind soccer basketball would be the #2 most played sport. Italy, France, Lithuania, Yugoslavia, Russia all have very strong basketball teams and they are only a fraction of the countries in europe that play basketball. It is popular through many countries in Africa, particularly during the dominant period of the Hakeen Olajuwon led Houston Rockets (he was born and grew up in Nigeria). With Yao Ming being the first Chinese national in the NBA, baketball is growing at an exponential rate in Asia. It is already extremely popular in nations like Korea and Japan. To say soccer is the only worldwide game is not true.

-there are 96 rugby playing nations
-Soccer barely rates a mention in India (world's 2nd biggest pop^)

I could keep ranting, but my point is, Jordan IS one of the greatest athletes of all time with Pele and Ali. The three are inseparable, because they are more than just athletes in a sport, they ARE the sport.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
FBS1
Profile Joined April 2003
United Kingdom875 Posts
May 11 2004 22:35 GMT
#89
#1 Ali
#2 Pele
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
May 11 2004 22:38 GMT
#90
Outside American ppl dont care about Michael Jordan.

#1 Pele

# 2-x
Ali
John McEnroe
Sampras
Maradona
Maurice Green
Carl Lewis
Michael Jordan
Michael Johnson
etc.

The topic is not about who is/were the "best" athlete/sportman, but who is the "best known"
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
May 11 2004 22:41 GMT
#91
think about which superstar made the nike company where it is
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
May 11 2004 22:47 GMT
#92
On May 12 2004 07:41 lefty wrote:
think about which superstar made the nike company where it is


Ronaldo? Michael Jordan is not nearly as popular as Pele outside of US
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
May 11 2004 22:48 GMT
#93
Jordan >>>>>>>>> Pele
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
May 11 2004 22:51 GMT
#94
The question is not of the most popular, but of the most well-known. This means, if you've heard his name, and know what he played before reading this thread, you knew who he was.

Ali and Jordan have to be at least NEAR the top of the list. There's no way they are too far out of contention, if one is not in the #1 spot.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
May 11 2004 23:00 GMT
#95
"Outside American ppl dont care about Michael Jordan"

I guess outside of America, people don't care about reading comprehension either. The question is who is the most known athlete. People can't choose to not care about Michael Jordan without knowing that he exists.. and if they know that he exists, then their vote counts toward him. Thus by making that statement and not putting Jordan at the top of your list, you already submit yourself and your opinion to stupidity.

Michael Jordan is extremely well-known amongst the most populous countries in the world. Basketball is popular in many countries and is closely associated with Jordan.

It'd also be hard to believe that any country where Nike is popular has gone without seeing the Jordan symbol. By knowing that exists, you also know Jordan exists, as it is just another representation of the man himself like his name.

That being said I think between Ali, Pele, and Jordan it could not be easily distinguished without concrete support.
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
May 11 2004 23:01 GMT
#96
On May 11 2004 19:44 Bill307 wrote:
The ancient Greek guy who died after running as hard as he could to alert a city called Marathon that they were going to be attacked (iirc). An entire sport is now named after that incident .


Feidippedes was his name, and he run from marathon to athens to report victory after the fight was done

And for most famous dunno, but probably one of Beckham/Jordan/Ali/Schumacher/Pele . In the 1992 olympics the dream team was the main attraction of the entire games, and Jordan the most recognizable figure in it. I recall reading somewhere that Jordan was the person most people would recognize when walking down a street. Ali/Pele are quite old, I doubt most people would recognize them if they saw them in a picture(out of uniform^^ )

But Jordan is definitely one of the most famous athletes ever. Everyone knows him even if they dont care one whit about basketball, and whoever watched the 1992 olympics does care about basketball even if he didnt before...
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
May 11 2004 23:10 GMT
#97
On May 12 2004 08:00 NonY wrote:
"Outside American ppl dont care about Michael Jordan"

I guess outside of America, people don't care about reading comprehension either. The question is who is the most known athlete. People can't choose to not care about Michael Jordan without knowing that he exists.. and if they know that he exists, then their vote counts toward him. Thus by making that statement and not putting Jordan at the top of your list, you already submit yourself and your opinion to stupidity.

Michael Jordan is extremely well-known amongst the most populous countries in the world. Basketball is popular in many countries and is closely associated with Jordan.

It'd also be hard to believe that any country where Nike is popular has gone without seeing the Jordan symbol. By knowing that exists, you also know Jordan exists, as it is just another representation of the man himself like his name.

That being said I think between Ali, Pele, and Jordan it could not be easily distinguished without concrete support.


Get this, if a person doesnt care for Michael Jordan and/or basketball, hes most likely not going to mention him when discussing about big athlete, with his friends for once. On the contrary the talk about Pele is obviously more common, when soccer is much more popular worldwide.

The title says "Most Well Known Athlete of All Time?" and i can insure you that, outside of US people dont know much more about Jordan, than that he is/was a great basketball player and that he was in a movie. Also, Jordan is fairly new compared to Ali and Pele.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
May 11 2004 23:10 GMT
#98
ALi, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan and Tyson
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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
May 11 2004 23:15 GMT
#99
most well-known would be OJ Simpson or Mike Tyson.
1000 at least.
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
May 11 2004 23:27 GMT
#100
Pele? Man i dont know him because i dont watch, nor care about soccer.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
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