EPTArguing with my friends... who is the most known worldwide, if it is someone else tell me.
Most Well Known Athlete of All Time?
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Quiksilver
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Arguing with my friends... who is the most known worldwide, if it is someone else tell me. | ||
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PuertoRican
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Ali or Michael Jordan | ||
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hunterAS
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THE ROCK Babe Ruth Michael jordan Kobe Bryant Shaq | ||
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LetFly
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LetFly
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sperix
Germany243 Posts
naw rly i think its different in every region in the world but on an overall it would probably be the likes of jordan, beckham , i never heard much of Ali although i know who he was/is. | ||
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PuertoRican
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sperix
Germany243 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:36 PuertoRican wrote: if yer talkin about Ali, then yes he's considered an athlete because boxing is a sport. the only real sport is soccer haha jk no flames plz ^^ | ||
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hunterAS
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hk[hanbyul]
Canada149 Posts
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Refrain[FriZ]
Canada4337 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:28 hunterAS wrote: lebron james THE ROCK Babe Ruth Michael jordan Kobe Bryant Shaq Lebron james/The Rock/Kobe Bryant/Shaq are jokes... we're talking athlete of ALL TIME here | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:45 dronebabo wrote: yet we don't know his name? :D Well, he WOULD be the most well-known athlete, if people were taught the origin of the word Marathon  . | ||
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0_0
United States2090 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:51 Dang-it wrote: guys its babe ruth i mean who doesnt know this candy? omg, yeah I forgot about Babe Ruth . | ||
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hk[hanbyul]
Canada149 Posts
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SojT
United States789 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:37 hunterAS wrote: well we all know boxer and nada are the most famous sheesh. nal_ra | ||
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Klogon
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Honestly, I dont even think Babe Ruth was all that. He played baseball 80 years ago and I doubt that the average baseball player then was good as the average player now. Oh well, even if he was super legendary, it's not like baseball is a popular sport. | ||
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Lockdown-
United States297 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:36 PuertoRican wrote: if yer talkin about Ali, then yes he's considered an athlete because boxing is a sport. he meant woods | ||
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dronebabo
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:44 Bill307 wrote: The ancient Greek guy who died after running as hard as he could to alert a city called Marathon that they were going to be attacked (iirc). An entire sport is now named after that incident .its one race, not the whole sport :-/ | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
and even if we're talking all time, I'd guess beckham. but pele is also incredibly famous. here in europe we know about people like jordan and we've heard of a couple other basket stars and we know on average perhaps 3-5 american football players/baseball players. but seriously, go to asia, africa or south america and poll people on whom they've heard of and have the options michael jordan, ali, beckham, pele, babe ruth, wayne gretzky and some american football player (I don't even know who's the most famous player through all time and I've paid a lot more attention to american sports than the average norwegian. ) if you think beckham or pele would not win a worldwide poll then yeah, I really gotta wonder what's going on inside your head. and the reason why I think beckham would probably beat pele is that he recently went on a promote-himself tour across asia, and there is now a whole lot more media around the world than it was back when pele was the best. some of the newer football nations might not have heard as much of the old stars as they have of the new stars, and back in 1970, asian countries weren't as into football as they are now. to quote steven patrick morrissey "America is not the world." | ||
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Sadist
United States7215 Posts
how can you call babe ruth a loser. What a fucking douche bag. Who cares if baseball isnt popular, that doesnt make babe ruth a loser. The guy TRANSFORMED the game, made it EXTREMELY popular, and single handedly popularized the homerun Baseball isnt like bw, you can compare people from 80 yrs ago to now. The guy didnt even play witha helmet, had none of these steroids or anything, and still hit that 714 homeruns. YOu seriously have no fucking clue. I really hope you arent from america | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
so he is up there. but he's obviously not 1 | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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MrEd
Australia357 Posts
oh and agassi maybe. even tho soccers more popular than tennis, hes just been around for so damn long, and still in top 5. | ||
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
Michael Jordan! | ||
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Dick
United States717 Posts
so much he did achieve in both sports and in his time as a personality (vietnam war, charisma, freed hostages during embassy crisis in Iran 1980) 2nd Pele (most american and canadiens don't know him, Ali is a legend and his name is all around the world). Jordan would come to a 3rd but very far away from Pele, along with Pete Sampras and even Gary Kasparov too. Schumacher will become a legend when he retires, but right now he's not very famous in America Ruth is not known at all neither in eurupe nor asia... nobody cares about baseball there, same goes for Maradona but for America. Beckham is just a pop star, he'll dissapear in some years, and all the other guys you've named are just local sportheroes. | ||
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MadduX
United States515 Posts
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yare
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Bill307
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SW)RIF
United States563 Posts
)Edit: Muhammid Ali or Micheal Jordan would probably be most likely to transcend all countires. | ||
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
On May 11 2004 20:46 Bill307 wrote: What did Pele do, btw? (seriously, all I know is that he's a soccer athlete) omfg Bill ! u r not into soccer r u? i mean its hard to iamgine someone whos into soccer n doesnt noe whos Pele! | ||
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][-][eretic
Canada395 Posts
Perhaps not right now, but later we'll know truly how players like Pele and Beckham really stack up to Ali's ever-lasting fame. As I said I don't watch much football, but my friend who came here from Persia played for team canada under 18, so he's pretty into what goes on and I do get to see the odd game on his huge fucking tv :O | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
Ali Jordan Pele Woods Sampras Schumacher In that order. The top 3 are debateable tho. Personally i think Jordan should be #1. The guy is just wow. | ||
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amat
United States1788 Posts
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Ace
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amat
United States1788 Posts
On May 11 2004 20:01 Liquid`Drone wrote: are you guys naming american stars retarded or something? considering basketball, baseball and american football are sports mainly played in usa, while real football is played through the entire world, it's obviously going to be a football player. and even if we're talking all time, I'd guess beckham. but pele is also incredibly famous. here in europe we know about people like jordan and we've heard of a couple other basket stars and we know on average perhaps 3-5 american football players/baseball players. but seriously, go to asia, africa or south america and poll people on whom they've heard of and have the options michael jordan, ali, beckham, pele, babe ruth, wayne gretzky and some american football player (I don't even know who's the most famous player through all time and I've paid a lot more attention to american sports than the average norwegian. ) if you think beckham or pele would not win a worldwide poll then yeah, I really gotta wonder what's going on inside your head. and the reason why I think beckham would probably beat pele is that he recently went on a promote-himself tour across asia, and there is now a whole lot more media around the world than it was back when pele was the best. some of the newer football nations might not have heard as much of the old stars as they have of the new stars, and back in 1970, asian countries weren't as into football as they are now. to quote steven patrick morrissey "America is not the world." I tell you what... Find someone that has never heard of Ali. You don't want it to be an American (because you are so envious of our greatness), but the most famous athlete surely is Ali. And yes, he was the most famous in Africa and China too. | ||
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SoL.Origin
Argentina2400 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Practically the world was watching that fight. Ali back in the 70s was HUGE. He is a household name and every single athlete in the world has heard of him. Beckam is someone relatively new yet I would give you the benefit of the doubt because he is becoming more and more popular. Especially if everyone knows him in Asia, lots of people there. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On May 11 2004 22:05 amat wrote: And we know how many of them Chinese there are. And yes, he was the most famous in Africa and China too. | ||
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
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taeWook
United States1367 Posts
the end. | ||
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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GabrielB
Brazil594 Posts
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Dirk
United States1339 Posts
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mmm.beer
Canada412 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On May 11 2004 23:38 VioLat0R wrote: I would guess Jesus would be pretty far up there, yes?there was a research about the most well known names on earth, including brands... pele got 3rd or 4th... so yes... pele, by far... | ||
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
in a couple years, basketball will surpass soccer as most popular in China. | ||
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TLKiD
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Dick
United States717 Posts
try to find someone who doesn't know who Ali is ? oh and you can start with women. the list is as simple as Ali by far Pele Jordan Sampras / Schumacher / Kasparov think of someone who doesn't know who these 6 guys are ... Breeze mentioned Sergei Bubka, he could be there too with Maradona and also Carl Lewis, but neither of them are at least close as the ones I mentioned, because they aren't known in some regions of our beautiful planet. | ||
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][-][eretic
Canada395 Posts
I'd have to say that soccer is probably the only sport you can truely call yourselves world champion at.. there isn't another sport i can think of where every country has the opportunity to field a team. Although I barely watch any soccer at all, I do understand that it is unquestionably the most popular sport... which is why I do wonder about Ali / Pele / Jordan, because I know what the other two have accomplished, but I know nothing of Pele... simply a name. So here's my thoughts, on what I know Most well known athlete of all time: Ali Most Popular athlete: Pele? Most decorated athlete: Jordan? I put the question marks because I figure Pele's popularity is why he's considered the top, and jordan's achievemants fall short to noone really:/ By the way, I in no way am saying Pele isn't good. I'm saying he's a very popular athlete by name these days. I in no way have any idea what he's accomplished | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
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luminosity_
Canada378 Posts
for all the charisma ali brought to boxing and the skill that pele brought to the game it is really impossible to any of these men to accomplish in their games what Tiger Woods has accomplished in golf. And he's not even 25 yet. | ||
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JudasT
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Dick
United States717 Posts
On May 11 2004 20:46 Bill307 wrote: What did Pele do, btw? (seriously, all I know is that he's a soccer athlete) Pele is perhaps the greatest soccer player of all time. He helped Brazil win 3 world cups, scored more goals than any other player ever (+1200). Plus, he gave soccer a different aproach, he spread it worldwide, to a lot of countries (including the states, where he played at Cosmos) and is always working in order to help soccer become a more worldwide sport. In and off court, he was a gentlemen, very humble and quiet, and a world hero. for those who don't know, Muhammad Aliis perhaps the greatest boxer of all time. he was indeed a master, but he became famous for his activist rights as going to black muslim religion. he refused to go to Vietnam and was taken his throne on what ppl believe were his best years. after serving sentence, he came back to box and regain his title (twice). after retiring Ali became a worldwide respected voice, one of his doings was that he served as intermediate to set free some hostages in a hostage crisis during cold war Iran-USA. Kasparov i mean who doesn't know who kasparov is ? though bobby fischer was very famous too and probably better than him, Kasparov took chess to another level. he was the one to develop an enormous campain so ppl saw chess as a sport and chessplayers as athletes. has faced computers trice, the entire world once on the internet, and has been world champion for almost 20 years. schumacher 6 times f1 champion. need to say more ? pete sampras perhaps greatest tennis player of all time. has all tennis records. 14 grand slams, 6 years #1, most weeks as #1... he dominated tennis in a decade that was supposed to be open wided and impossible to be dominated by 1 player michael jordan greatest basketball player ever, no doubt. as same as pele, took basketball to another level, the marketing worldwide spread. 6 times mvp, 6 times champion, etc etc... so many records frankly i don't think there's anyone else that fits on this list. though some possible close candidates: maradona nadia comanecci mark spitz carl lewis sergei bubka tiger woods (may become in some years) bobby fischer ayrton senna o.j. simpson gee i think there's no one else | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
and i don't think beckham or schumacher are less known to older generations. i mean they are on tv all the time, how could someone not know them. if you're not into sports (as the majority of ppl) you prolly forgot who ali or pele were even if you knew them. still one thing to say: i am really interested in sports and follow all kind of leagues reaching from curling over snooker, k-1 and f1 to soccer but i got no clue who all these baseball and basketball players are. the only ones i know are m. jordan and shaq and i heard the name babe ruth in movies. so take all of them off the list coz they are only know in small regions of the world. | ||
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lefty
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SW)RIF
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nortydog
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nortydog
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
only one who could possibly rival pele or beckham. everyone else aren't close. but I mean for fucks sake, beckham went on a promote himself tour across asia. that's where most people are. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
we're not talking most well known athlete in europe/north america. (I think jordan could probably end up beating pele/beckham then, because everyone in north america knows him and almost everyone in europe knows him while the amount of people in north america who don't know of pele/beckham is probably larger. ) but europe/north america makes up a very small portion of the *world's* population. why would some 10 year old african kid who never watched tv however has played football for his entire life know of jordan? football is the only sport played worldwide.. | ||
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13004 Posts
On May 12 2004 06:49 Liquid`Drone wrote: I know damn well who jordan is..? but basketball does not have CLOSE to the same following football does worldwide, thus the best basketball player through all time will obviously not have the same recognition the best football player through all time does. or the most famous one. we're not talking most well known athlete in europe/north america. (I think jordan could probably end up beating pele/beckham then, because everyone in north america knows him and almost everyone in europe knows him while the amount of people in north america who don't know of pele/beckham is probably larger. ) but europe/north america makes up a very small portion of the *world's* population. why would some 10 year old african kid who never watched tv however has played football for his entire life know of jordan? football is the only sport played worldwide.. Behind soccer basketball would be the #2 most played sport. Italy, France, Lithuania, Yugoslavia, Russia all have very strong basketball teams and they are only a fraction of the countries in europe that play basketball. It is popular through many countries in Africa, particularly during the dominant period of the Hakeen Olajuwon led Houston Rockets (he was born and grew up in Nigeria). With Yao Ming being the first Chinese national in the NBA, baketball is growing at an exponential rate in Asia. It is already extremely popular in nations like Korea and Japan. To say soccer is the only worldwide game is not true. -there are 96 rugby playing nations -Soccer barely rates a mention in India (world's 2nd biggest pop^) I could keep ranting, but my point is, Jordan IS one of the greatest athletes of all time with Pele and Ali. The three are inseparable, because they are more than just athletes in a sport, they ARE the sport. | ||
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FBS1
United Kingdom875 Posts
#2 Pele | ||
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TvP On Guillo
Denmark646 Posts
#1 Pele # 2-x Ali John McEnroe Sampras Maradona Maurice Green Carl Lewis Michael Jordan Michael Johnson etc. The topic is not about who is/were the "best" athlete/sportman, but who is the "best known" | ||
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lefty
United States1896 Posts
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TvP On Guillo
Denmark646 Posts
On May 12 2004 07:41 lefty wrote: think about which superstar made the nike company where it is Ronaldo? Michael Jordan is not nearly as popular as Pele outside of US | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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Ali and Jordan have to be at least NEAR the top of the list. There's no way they are too far out of contention, if one is not in the #1 spot. | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
I guess outside of America, people don't care about reading comprehension either. The question is who is the most known athlete. People can't choose to not care about Michael Jordan without knowing that he exists.. and if they know that he exists, then their vote counts toward him. Thus by making that statement and not putting Jordan at the top of your list, you already submit yourself and your opinion to stupidity. Michael Jordan is extremely well-known amongst the most populous countries in the world. Basketball is popular in many countries and is closely associated with Jordan. It'd also be hard to believe that any country where Nike is popular has gone without seeing the Jordan symbol. By knowing that exists, you also know Jordan exists, as it is just another representation of the man himself like his name. That being said I think between Ali, Pele, and Jordan it could not be easily distinguished without concrete support. | ||
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
On May 11 2004 19:44 Bill307 wrote: The ancient Greek guy who died after running as hard as he could to alert a city called Marathon that they were going to be attacked (iirc). An entire sport is now named after that incident .Feidippedes was his name, and he run from marathon to athens to report victory after the fight was done And for most famous dunno, but probably one of Beckham/Jordan/Ali/Schumacher/Pele . In the 1992 olympics the dream team was the main attraction of the entire games, and Jordan the most recognizable figure in it. I recall reading somewhere that Jordan was the person most people would recognize when walking down a street. Ali/Pele are quite old, I doubt most people would recognize them if they saw them in a picture(out of uniform^^ ) But Jordan is definitely one of the most famous athletes ever. Everyone knows him even if they dont care one whit about basketball, and whoever watched the 1992 olympics does care about basketball even if he didnt before... | ||
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TvP On Guillo
Denmark646 Posts
On May 12 2004 08:00 NonY wrote: "Outside American ppl dont care about Michael Jordan" I guess outside of America, people don't care about reading comprehension either. The question is who is the most known athlete. People can't choose to not care about Michael Jordan without knowing that he exists.. and if they know that he exists, then their vote counts toward him. Thus by making that statement and not putting Jordan at the top of your list, you already submit yourself and your opinion to stupidity. Michael Jordan is extremely well-known amongst the most populous countries in the world. Basketball is popular in many countries and is closely associated with Jordan. It'd also be hard to believe that any country where Nike is popular has gone without seeing the Jordan symbol. By knowing that exists, you also know Jordan exists, as it is just another representation of the man himself like his name. That being said I think between Ali, Pele, and Jordan it could not be easily distinguished without concrete support. Get this, if a person doesnt care for Michael Jordan and/or basketball, hes most likely not going to mention him when discussing about big athlete, with his friends for once. On the contrary the talk about Pele is obviously more common, when soccer is much more popular worldwide. The title says "Most Well Known Athlete of All Time?" and i can insure you that, outside of US people dont know much more about Jordan, than that he is/was a great basketball player and that he was in a movie. Also, Jordan is fairly new compared to Ali and Pele. | ||
Liquid`HayprO
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
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Dirk
United States1339 Posts
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Quiksilver
United States424 Posts
How do people not know Pele... who won the World Cup 3x, everyone follows that anyway. Schumacher is nowhere near these guys. There are too many countries in which common people do not regularly drive cars. | ||
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Toff
Norway309 Posts
Sampras / Schumacher / Kasparov Plz.. These guys aren't even close. | ||
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AgonyRush
United States2540 Posts
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X)Benny
France1270 Posts
Along with Carl Lewis, Sergei Bubka and Kasparov, who were saved from collective memory holes quite late in this thread, I'd like to mention: - Ayrton Seyna, - Colin Mac Ray, - Zidane, - Karch Kiraly, - Ben Johnson, - Martina Navratilova, - Bjon Borg (spelling?), - Sotomayor (spelling?), - Lomu, - Neil Armstrong (most famous moon-walker )...Also don't forget this Irish man who crushed the triple jump WR some years ago. Ask this question to a Japanese, the answer you will get is Beckham, or Ichiro Suzuki, depending on the sport he likes the best. Ask me the same question, and Carl Lewis would get my vote. | ||
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Toff
Norway309 Posts
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7op
Canada654 Posts
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7op
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Pob
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Casper...
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On May 12 2004 08:00 NonY wrote: "Outside American ppl dont care about Michael Jordan" I guess outside of America, people don't care about reading comprehension either. The question is who is the most known athlete. People can't choose to not care about Michael Jordan without knowing that he exists.. and if they know that he exists, then their vote counts toward him. Thus by making that statement and not putting Jordan at the top of your list, you already submit yourself and your opinion to stupidity. LoL O god sometimes people can really make me lol with there post | ||
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Countdown
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Wayne Gretzky - Hockey Babe Ruth - Baseball Ali - Boxing Tiger Woods - Golf | ||
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Countdown
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On May 12 2004 08:43 Quiksilver wrote: I initially thought it would be Pele... but now I think it HAS to be Jordan just beucase of Nike Nike, Hanes, Gatorade, Mcdonalds, Ball Park, and more than I can't remember | ||
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LedZeppelin
United States226 Posts
i'd put pele #1 with jordan close #2.. | ||
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Sadness
Brazil552 Posts
never heard of babe ruth, how can a baseball player be one of the most known??? | ||
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Toff
Norway309 Posts
On May 12 2004 11:46 Sadness wrote: Pele and Ali for sure never heard of babe ruth, how can a baseball player be one of the most known??? He can't. | ||
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ElCuerno
Argentina23 Posts
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ElCuerno
Argentina23 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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SunShine
Netherlands787 Posts
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taeWook
United States1367 Posts
JORDAN. End of discussion. | ||
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taeWook
United States1367 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
IS NOT THE WORLD. period. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On May 12 2004 12:10 Liquid`Drone wrote: AMERICA IS NOT THE WORLD. period. NO ONE SAID IT WAS period. The only thing said was that Jordan has his name all over a ton of major brands, all over the world. Not to mention the dream team, which was probably seen by every person on earth who owned a TV in the early 90's. Jordan would have to be in the top three, if he's not the number one. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
The basketball scene everywhere else in the world is really really miniscule compared to the soccer scene. People play soccer all over the world. Guaranteed everyone who loves soccer has heard of Maradona or Beckham. So I would definitely go with either of them. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
Everyone knows who Beckham is | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
On May 12 2004 11:57 ElCuerno wrote: Geez americnas are so RE-FUCKIN-Tarded babe ruth ? ALI ? someone even said iverson .. those guys dont even make top 100.. and MAYBEEEEEEEEEE BARELY top 10 .. jesus Pele without a doubt is the most well known athlete of all time.. EVERYONE in the world knows him except for stupid americans! michael jordan .. there are many places where people have no clue of him.. and possibly only know him because of the stupid fuckin factories that his has around the world making the guys work like slaves .. so they know him as "michael jordan.. the devil guy.. SON OF A BITCH MOTHER FUCKE R)(*#&$)*&#$)(*&#" hehe gg no re danks  | ||
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sanqi
United States48 Posts
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sanqi
United States48 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28626 Posts
and jordan is probably top 5. but I'd place pele, beckham (and no not because of his skill, but because he's pretty much a popstar. ) , maradona and ali above him. when you guys (americans) are naming basketball players other than jordan, hockey players, baseball players, etc, it's because you fail to realize all those sports are tiny compared to football outside north america. I know 2 guys who have ever played on a basketball team. I know hundreds who have played on a football team. and europe is with very few exceptions like that. children in brazil (or south america in general) who play football all day long will most definitely have heard of pele and maradona. people who pay ANY attention to sports in asia will know who beckham is, because when he recently visited several asian countries he got A LOT of attention. in fact many people who don't pay any attention to sports will know who he is. people who don't play basketball and don't have a tv (that's a WHOLE lot of people, way more than who don't play football and don't have a tv) might actually not know who michael jordan is. I knew who pele was before I was 6 years old. in fact I knew about hundreds of football players before I had ever heard of jordan. and if you go outside north america, that's how things are, although yes jordan *is* very famous, and I can easily put him in top 5 most well known athletes of all time. but not top 1. now that I got the final word in this (and it's not like it's a fruitful debate anyway), im closing it. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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